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Dang. My feet are numb.
The wind would come from the west or southwest, your traveling in a southerly direction, any way you choose, until you have traveled two hundred miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Why not try a fire plow? Less assembly and moving parts to balance. I would have to go with water travel. A raft does'nt have to be huge. and If you take a day to make tools you can make an stone ax to make it with. Stop and take stock of what is around you. I would take a day to set snares and make fire. Then I would look at leaving the area.
But the wind will blow you toward the west or northwest away from safety. Right? If you're on a raft you're going to be at the mercy of the wind and currents. I don't know. I'm asking.
Water travel seems to be the fastest way out of the march lands. If I'm gonna bet wet I may as well ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf65
If you are going to try to sail on the great lakes, the winds would not be much help unless you could rig a sail boat together and tact with the wind. Paddling close to the shore would work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Well, I wasn't trying to use the wind. I just thought the wind would act against your southerly movements. If you say it will work then okay. I still don't like the idea of cotton being wet in 50F water.
How long do you believe it would take to travel 200 miles?
Sam: Exactly my point,
and rick, no see the current is moving south as the rivers flow, using a push pole it can be done, why cross to lake superior when you can go down to the bottom of lake michigaan and hit a river going further south.
Early summer you get those winds that pop up from the south southwest. Travel would be tough and you would need to pull off the lake often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
On the lake maybe a day and then faster in the river, raft 6feet wide x 8feet long, with a push pole about 10 to 15 feet off shore on the lake. maybe even a bark paddle. We did that in Georgia in Ranger school and in florida..
Thought about constructing a sail. Those winds would put you on a broad reach with little ability to head up very effectively, thus pushing you further and further from shore. So scratch that idea. Rather than paddling which would expend alot of energy, I'd look at polling while staying close to shore.
Because I've been on Lake Michigan and I know what the waves are like. Think ocean swells. And if a storm hits then things go from bad to dead. I was joking about Lake Superior although that would be just my luck. What river are you flowing south down?
If you're sticking close to shore then you're heading to Chicago. It's my kinda town but a loooong way down the shoreline.
If using a longer raft, them a long pole that could be used as a kayak paddle (both sides) would even the strokes and make steadier headway
Thing is build a fire to dry out some and warm up and take your time building the raft so its sturdy and well made, could take five six hours.
I sort of see about 7 or 8 of us still standing in the swamp debating on which way to go and how to get there.
See, I have no fire. So I'm a little limited on options. I'm still hoofing it around the lake.
Building a fire carrier to carry an ember (coke bottle bottom) to speed up fire building on shore.
Didn't I say: raft 6feet wide x 8feet long, with a push pole about 10 to 15 feet off shore on the lake. Oh yeah I did, hey carcajou garou you and me are outta here.
O.K. guys that's it ... Thanks for contributing. I would like to see another forum like this in the future.
Thanks Again
PGV
If anyone cares, I was eaten by a wolverine shortly after turning south.
I'm kind of with Rick on the fire thing. I hope I could. I have in the past. Have not practiced the skill enough (now I know what I need to work on). Hope is probably not a great idea when making out my route. I agree with the "knowing your limitations" theory of surviving. Helps keep you from getting in too far over your head.
Now sait a minute PVG. Give us your plan.
PGV - How would YOU have done it? It's your country.
So Rick tell me is it really that dark inside a wolverine?:D
Des Plaines River in Northern Indiana Rick.
PVG you da man bro, great forum.
O.k. give me a minute to write it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Follow the coast down and there ya go.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, I can tell you there are two points of light visible from where I sit. One is just past a horrendous set of teeth and the other is just past a horrendous.......hello? Is this thing on?
I'd of sent a helo to pick you up bro,
and you thought the swamp smelled bad:D
Well, death by wolverine isn't so bad. I mean, I could have been on a forum trying to find my way back to civilization. So death wasn't so bad.
Death by wolverine LOL
carcajou garou = surly wolverine
DBW if you prefer. So, you aren't THAT tough until wolverines look you up and ask for ideas. Then you can say you're tough.
Wolverine: So I hook a claw like this.
Carcajou Interupts: No. Now pay attention. If you do it like that.....
First I live on Lake Erie so I know a bit about the great lakes though I haven't spent much time in the U.P. to be considered an expert. I chose the area because it was different and not many people are familiar with it. I wanted to challenge you, make you gather information on the area to decide what to do.
The marsh would be the toughest. I would move to the highest point to my west to get dry and view the terrain. A bow and drill made from cotton wood would work to start a fire. I would use my pop bottle to boil the water but it would be a slow process. Later I would like to try to make a Birch bark water bucket to hold the boiled water.
I would progress southwesterly by foot until I hit a stream of good flow that ran down to Lake Michigan. I Would build a small raft to navigate the stream. Then I would build upon it once I hit Lake Michigan making a sturdy raft. I would navigate the west side of the lake moving into Green Bay and following it south to the city of Green Bay.
Where's War Eagle. How about a cage fight with a wolverine. Now that's tough!
Sorry that was in Kankakee Il.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf65
Good Night Gentleman.. Talk to you later...
Thanks bro, that was great.
Beo,