Navy Seal Snipers == Awesome

one more thought and i'm done with this
when the taliban was fighting the russians we thought they were great and was willing to overlok their religous beleifs, we even backed osama and trained and supplied him, have they changed or have we?

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And this is a typical logical fallacy. We're not allowed to have an opinion on a topic unless we've personally experienced it?

I'm sorry I've never shot a Somali. I'm not going to fly over there and shoot one just so I can post my opinion on the Internet.

I also never liberated a concentration camp in WW2, I wasn't even born yet. But I can still have an opinion on the treatment of the Jews in Nazi Germany can't I?

Ya sure, if one of those snipers does have nightmares, I'm probably not the guy for them to confide in because I'd have absolutely 0 insight into their issue. But, I'm sure you don't actually have to have shot someone in the line of duty to have an opinion on a military operation, no?

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i emphaticly whole heartedly 100 percent disagree

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you say they are not good people because you have the luxory of sitting over here on this side, they beleive in what they are fighting for as they ahve fought their whole lives to defend, if you have been born there how would you feel? as for the pirates desperate times call for desperate measures, heck look at our onw country when times get tough.

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So Wareagle, how do you feel about women's rights, torture, are you for torture? Do you think women should be beaten and not allowed to be educated, and raped by their husbands? You're saying that the Taliban are bad people is just a matter of where I'm standing. So okay, from where you stand, why don't you think women have the right to not be raped?

That is a rhetorical question, you don't have to answer it.

And the pirates, are a hell of a lot richer than me. You can't say I have access to a better life because I was born in the US. They could come here and buy every foreclosed house in Detroit and never work again. Of course, they'd be in Detroit, but still. Is it the pain of having all that money and guns and living like kings in their country that makes them do this? Its gotta be rough, being multimillionaire pirates, probably with a harem too. Rough life that.

They don't even have an ideal they're fighting for. Its money, all about money.

They are bad people.

nevermind too they are interfering with food aid shipments that could feed starving somalis who aren't multimillionaire pirates with harems.

Wareagle, in order to feel that way, one would first have to view the deceased as human beings. I don't. I look at them as animals wh have taken a human form. By their actions, they not only place their captors at risk of death, they also place the innocent starving children of their own country at risk of death as well.

Call me jaded. In the course of my life, I have encountered far too many people who have no redeeming social value whatsoever - people who exist for the sole purpose of victimizing others. They act like animals - they ARE animals - sociopaths - but they are not human by my definition. They are like a cancer on society and should be removed with no more remorse than a surgeon should have when removing a tumor.

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you say they are not good people because you have the luxory of sitting over here on this side, they beleive in what they are fighting for as they ahve fought their whole lives to defend, if you have been born there how would you feel? as for the pirates desperate times call for desperate measures, heck look at our onw country when times get tough.

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You were in Somalia and you are still defending this bs? WTF is wrong with you?
I think you have survivor's guilt.

I'm glad they were killed.

You can cast accusations at me such as "You've never been there", but you don't know that do you? Every single person that has ever taken a life deals with it differently. The fact remains that due to a trio of our elite soldiers one of our citizens has been returned safely to his family, and three criminal militants who enacted an assault on our nation and our people have been dealt with according to their own standards. I'm proud of our boys. And like myself, I don't think they'll lose a bit of sleep over it.

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If you could go back in time and kill Adolf Hitler when he was 12 years old would you? This is a typical moral question often tossed out. I tell you what, I would. I imagine Ken would as well.

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Without a doubt. And, with full knowledge of what I had just done, I'd sit down to a fine meal, joke with my family and friends, and go to bed and sleep soundly for the entire night.

And just in case you're wondering, I do value life and do sympathize with the less fortunate. Like many of you, I've nursed injured birds and animals back to health, handed a bag of groceries to some of the guys holding the "Hungry, will work for food" signs, and volunteered in a number of charitable efforts with my friends.

Pirates? I wouldn't **** on them if they were on fire.

When I grow up I want to be a millionaire pirate with a harem. I'd be a nice pirate, though. I'd play Pirates of the Caribbean all day long on the TV and walk around saying, "Arrrrr!" a lot. Oh, and a parrot. I'd have to have a parrot. Parrots are cool.

Yeah, me and Rick are gonna be bulletproof (as in why bother shooting those two #$###!!'s?) but seriously, I can see WE's and Remy's point and agree with it. I doubt that the professionals who did the job take any particular pleasure in, and I'd also add that I'm sure they take the pirates and their capabilities a lot more seriously than anyone posting here does.

Well, I do have a bit of perspective on this, A tour in Vietnam ,Mayaguez Rescue team member, Grenada, Somalia, First Gulf War, and two tours in the current sandbox tussle. Never enjoyed any of it. Several good friends did not come back. I do have some bad dreams, but have absolutely no regrets. These "pirates" took a course of action that included visiting violence and mayhem on unarmed mariners, and got their just deserts. Will this stop the problem? Probably not, but there are now 3 fewer players on the field. Any difficulties "dealing" with this are best born by professional military folks, and not non combatant civilians.

Yes, I think those Seals were Awesome, & what WE has posted makes it seem even more so for me. Look what they're going to have to live with just to save the life of one American!

I also think France is awesome, they're also not taking any doo-doo from these guys.

And furthermore; YES, the pirates are the bad guys, who cares how many of them are millionaires? Who cares if the pirate trying to take you hostage, or beating the crap out of you, or killing your co-workers & friends is well-heeled or not?

We're the GOOD GUYS! Why? Because I say so! Good & bad are relative terms fixed in the "eye of the beholder". I don't think that if it was my family in danger & I'm the guy with my finger on the trigger I'm going to even think about how much sleep I might lose over it; that's what sedatives & counseling are for! Go after me & mine...You're the BAD GUYS &, if I got anything to say about it, you're dead! End of story!:smash:

Great shooting Seals! Viva La France! Yo Pirates....K.M.A.!:sneaky2:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090418/...acy_captain_42

The captain calls them superheroes. Not quite awesome, but close enough for me to claim agreement ;)

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