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Rick, I don't know a heck of a lot about handguns, but I figure, you know your basics and what you're comfortable with, all I can say is....if you have to shoot someone, you don't want him to be still standing there when you're done. Lotsa good .45ACP's out there.
45ACP is one you can count on. Nothing like a big chunk of lead to get attention. My favorite and one that I don't think can be beat. Newer ain't always better. I carry a Beretta 45 but I guess somebody's pocket got lined to push the Beretta 92F on the military. High cap mags I guess and the 9 is ok but in the states I don't plan on needing 30 rounds, If I do I shouldn't be carrying. Just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by trax
Good for you! I like it. It's a mans gun. I'll quote the Commandant of the Marine Corps from back in the day when others were going to the 9mm: "We're staying with the 45. You can hit them in the finger and knock them down".
Same reason they use the 5.56 round in the standard issue weapon instead of the 7.62. American military doctrine says if you kill a soldier, it takes one out of the fight. If you wound a soldier, it takes three out of the fight. The one you wounded, and the two buddies that have to carry him off the field. It would be a great concept if it wasn't flat wrong, imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
Interesting. Also the Japanese doctrine during WWII according to an uncle that served in the Pacific Theater as a Marine. Also one of the reasons they went to a wooden bullet in the Arisaka 99 rifles. He was wounded with one.
Wow. Talk about a huge freakin' splinter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
He was wounded three times. Twice with lead and once with wood. He said the wood was by far the worst just because it lob lollied and splattered when it hit. As I understand it those wooden bullets would burn up before they made 100 yards so the optimum range was about 30 yards or so on them. All my info is second hand by the way, from him.
Rick, I think the Germans and the Japanese used wooden bullets because of resource problems (no lead) we had a wooden 'sentry' round that would wound a person as well as make noise. If the shot was taken in error (bad light, did not know any thing about base ball etc.) then it was'nt as bad as killing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Could be, Sam. I know both used wooden rounds for training. Some of those still exist. Thanks!!
Well, it finally came in. I said I'd post a pic so here it is. This is the Springfield XD .45 4" Service Model with the 13 shot clip.
It's a nice weapon. I think you're going to like it.
I'm heading to the range later today. We'll see.
13 rounds of 45 should hold you, no need for an extra mag to carry. It looks like a nice pistol, haven't had a chance to try one yet but I will. Can't beat the 45 in my modest opinion.
Looks like an excellent choice to me Rick. Can I have it? (Figured it worked for klkak the other day, so what the h***:D)
I have a springfield 1911 .45 that is just the sweetest shooter I have ever had. It is by far the most accurate hand-gun I have, but I am still trying to figure out how to conceal it effectively :(
If I get in a tough spot that is the first gun I would think of. I went through the CCW "training class" that they make us all take here in Kansas and outshot my pop, who is a qualified expert from SF (Special Forces). He was 2 parts irritated and 1 part proud :P I attribute it to the gun, he let me shoot his sig sauer .45 and I couldn't hit anything either o.O
yeah coot; i always figured if you got problems two 6rnd magazines won't get you out of then magazine capacity isn't your issue and it may be time to try diplomacy :D
I went to the range today and that new gun must need to be broken in. Either that or it needs more range time. It doesn't shoot very well. There are supposed to be holes in the target after you get done shooting aren't there?:o
Well as long as there aren't any holes in other range users or employees, you're doing ok. Oftentimes, where there aren't holes is every bit as important as where there are. You can trust me on this, and does anyone know how to stop arterial bleeding by the way?
waaa haaayy haay it a minute...I think this means you should give the gun to Trax! yeah! yeah! that's it, yeah!
It really is a nice shooter and very comfortable. The 13 shot clip is a bit longer than I thought it would be so concealment is going to be a bit of challenge but not too bad.
My dad had some .32 ammo that was waaaaay old. I took it with me today just to see if it would shoot. After the fifth click I gave up on it. It's kind of challenge to second guess that stuff. "Hmm. Is it a slow burn or a no burn?" Fortunately, they were all no burns.
You probably hit the target......just picked up a box of ninja ammunition by mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick