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Marcraft also has an FBI file.
They are watching you..............................
oh hell partner, I'm pretty sure our federalis are more than willing to share any relevant info on me with your federalis any time of the day...don't even worry about it anymore, LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by FVR
Feds are always watching I'm sure, you stock up on large amounts of arms and ammo and they'll be raiding you next!!!! ATF (Another Team of Fuc*ups :D) is always watching the purchase of firearms and ammo here in the states.
Another Team of F****ps...man I laughed at that one. Another forum I've seen a guy had a tag line I liked...."alcohol tobacco and firearms should be a general store, not a department of the federal government"...
Dude you don't even want to know how restrictive gun laws are in this country :mad:
But crime is less there than in the States, I think. Every night I turn on the news here in Cincinnati, at least two people shot, several wounded or shot at, a stabbing at least, assault, and the city has no money. Inside two years we'll be another Detroit with nothing coming outta here but bad rap artist.
Last year the city (known here as Stanknatti) alone 86 shooting deaths, over 300 shootings, 22 stabings, and God knows how many assaults, rapes, thefts, and break ins all armed, we broke our own records and that doesn't count the county as a whole.
lol i live in canada no Real feds here. and i have alot of connections through mensa so ill know if there watching me , and id be more then happy to chat with feds my uncle is cia lol. oh and beowulf i knew i heard that somewhere before , tell me if im wrong but i seem to remember it as the .50 caliber rifle round my grandpas AR-15 uses , is that where you got the name from?
I have been shooting for over 50+ years and I can carry more 22 cal ammo than anything else so I use a Ruger 10/22 with a fixed 6 power scope and a Mark II. At home I have other stuff but for woods survival I will take the 22 and I personally like Ruger. I have the Mark II and Single Six both stainless. Mag snakeshot seems to work better, but I wouldn't bother myself. If I hit the hill behind the house with my ATV I probably would take my beloved Beretta Cougar 45. I don't need glasses with it to 20 or so yards nor with the scoped 10/22 in my humble opinion.
Can always tell a man with taste. Those two .22s are my guns of choice as well.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
Naw, Beowulf65: Beowulf is a book (epic poem, there ya go Trax) wrote in the 4th century by an unknown author about a Gail warrior killing serpents (dragons) the Grendal, being one of the 1st books ever written I used it when my 1st book got published and 65 is the year I was born in 1965. The nickname stuck and thats what people call me now when I'm trekking or hunting... Beowulf or Beo... pronounced "Bay-o-wulf" didn't really ask for it and don't really like it but thats what they call me so... oh well.
You go right ahead and tell yourself that youngster....Quote:
Originally Posted by marcraft
Trax, bro... ya know he's 16, ain't seen the real world yet. No offense intended Marcraft.
Those who will give up freedom for safety deserve neither and will lose both. There has never been a gun that decided one day to get up and go kill someone. The person behind the gun is where the laws should focus, and not on the gun itself. When the government bans guns, all the honest citizens turn theirs in, and the criminals keep them. Have no illusions that any criminal is turning their guns in, or buying them from retail shops. They buy them stolen, and it is the criminal that should be regulated (executed) not the gun.
I live in Arizona and we can carry openly. I also have a concealed carry permit, which I hardly use but I have exercised my right to have it. There is far less gun related violence here than in other citys where guns are not legal to carry. The criminals don't know if the person they are about to rob is going to turn around and shoot them. I like that.
unfortunately in canada we arnt evn allowed to carry loaded guns , the best you can do legally is carry an empty pistol in a holster and have a loaded mag (more then 10 cap mag is illegal) in your pocket. and the gun has to be visible... the laws only take guns from honest citizens , giving criminals evn more power. and beo, none taken i know im less then half as old as most of you
I think the savage m24 in what ever chambering floats your boat is a great survival rifle, I would go with .22/.20Ga you can get some very powerful slugs in .20ga these days.
As far as battle rifles and what the goverment allows it might be that the reason you kneed the rifle is the goverment and .308 semi is my choice.
Even though I own several handguns I don't think they have a place way on top of the survival list of firearms a big bore handgun
's primary purpose is or should be to fight your way to your rifle I have a CCW and cary because a rifle or shotgun in public raises to many problems.
Also Marcraft, for being so young (damn half as old makes me sound really old.) you have alot of knowledge, I left that out the last post I did here.
My guns consist of .32 calibur flintlock (my sons but I use it for small game), .69 calibur flintlock for large game, Remington 700 chambered in the Winchester .300 magnum, 12 gauge Remington 870 ( I usually use Rotweiler 3 in. mags for deer, and shot for small game and duck, Ruger 10/22 with a cheap tasco scope (need to upgrade that oneday), an H&K USP .40, and my duty weapon a S&W .40. Also have a long bow (love it love it).
As for a survival firearm I think I'd use the 12 gauge and cross sling the Ruger on my back.
These are just my choices although plinking an enemy from about 70 to 100 yards away with my .69 flintlock would be interesting.:D
Beo,
yeah im probibially the only teenager on the earth who listens to bbc world whyle playing video games lol. and its not that your old im just young. and i know firearms regulations because my parents said i wasnt allowed to have any projectile weapon in the house so i looked up every possible way i could own a firearm without storing it in the house. im gona get my minors possession licience right after i take drivers ed. so i found a way for me to legally own a rifle or shotgun (only non-restricted firearms till im 18) the MPL allows you to own / store / transport a non-restricted firearm but not purchase it. so im gona have a friend of mine with a possession and acquisition license buy it and sign it over to me , then ill keep it at his place and take it when i want to use it , atleast untill i have a car then i can store it in the car as long as it is unloaded , locked , and not visible from outside the car. and a childhood friend of min is in angola right now so i keep tabs of the civil wars and politics in africa. and i spend about an hour every day researching things i dont know on the web (gota love the internet lol) and im planning on buying a compound bow for about $100 for grouse hunting to see if i want to bow hunt big game. iv alredy got my hunters education , trappers education , cfsc , and i took a hunting guide course a few months ago.
sorry bout 2X posting. so beo, im guessing you a big muzzleloader fan. never liked em much myself on account of the horrible recoil , range , ballistics they produce, but alot of people like the ruggedness of a muzzleloader and some just want the earlier deer seasons lol. do you have and advice on what bow would be good for upland game bird hunting for my (very) limited budget. and also what types of arrows / arrowheads i should buy?
I would go with a longbow, but thats just me, I like the light weight of the bow-shooting instinctively with no sights just using my eye. A good long bow can be had from all knids of places in Canada, just check them out real good but most bowyers won't rip you off. Arrows for longbow I'd use ceder shafts and zwiki broadheads for big game and stumpers for small game. Practice make perfect, so if you can take a rabbit or squirrel with a longbow then everything else should be fine.
As for compound bows I'm lost, my friends that use compound all use PSE and I know they're reliable. When I started bow hunting I started with a PSE compound and it was great (that was in 1987 see I am old lol) and they make great equipment hence the name:
P-Precision
S-Shooting
E-equipment
But I sold it about four years ago and been longbow ever since.
Beo,
ok then, do you know where i can get a longbow with 25+ lbs of draw weight for around $100? the only ones i see at sports stores are around $600...
Hi All
I am currently in the Savage 24 area for survival rifles.
I like the adaptability of them.
Later
Kid
Think I just changed my mind. Spent the morning chasing rabbits with a selfbow, darn things are fast.
Trading the 308 in for my mossberg shotgun. Packing in slugs and 4 shot. Slugs for deer, bear, and protection. 4 shot for small critters and flying dinners.
What gauge is your Mossberg FVR?
Kid
12 guage of course. Would need a wheel barrel for the rounds.
Try Bear Archery http://www.beararcheryproducts.com/
or pick up an issue of Traditional Archery Magazine they sell all types of longbows, there is also a longbw called the stick that is real good and sells cheap.
Also as Smok said in different thread you can make your own Atlatl:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2...atliof9.th.png
I have a Ruger 10-22 with extra clips. I've modified the clip release to a longer one and I've changed the stock to one that is collapsible. But I held on to the original. I also pack a .38 wheel gun for the two legged varmints.
Better yet, vitist tradgang.coms classifieds.
Sarge, I assume that by H&R you mean Harrington & richardson. I too have an ancient H& R M48 topper in 16 g. Is the company still running? I'd Like to have a date of manufacture on the gun but I cant find a H&R site that does so. I suspect this gun was manufactured around 1950 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
I'm not sure what you're asking here. My H & R was bought brand new over a year & a half ago from Wal-Mart back when they were still selling firearms. (Wal_Mart recently quit all sale of Fire-Arms in many of their stores.) I was thinking that H & R was owned by another company. I'll check it out and get back to you.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay
OK, Harrington & Richardson is affiliated with the Marlin Firearms Company. Here's there Home web-site:
http://www.hr1871.com/
I Googled "Harrington & Richardson & came up with a bunch of stuff. Hope you find what you need! Good Hunting!;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Thanks Sarge! will check it out.
Remington has bought out Marlin, H&R, NEF. The home pages may be relocated till they settle in maybe under one banner?
Thanks. Hope thay dont destroy the old records.Quote:
Originally Posted by carcajou garou
for a pack rifle i have a rossi model 62 carbine. it's a .22lr in a pump action and takes down to 20"
i used to carry a 10/22 carbine and was thrilled when the clinton semi-auto assault waepon bill expired as it allowed me to put a folding stock on it, making it more compact for pack carry [as if this might be some terrorist act].
22 long rifle is the classic but also have backup 12g 870 , Rem 700 30.06 , bolt 22 long and have been playing with an RWS for few years now also nicce guns they are ,,,
Man, how are you going to carry all that? Are you farming out to other family members? I have several other pieces that I would hand out to my sons and my son-in-law, some with more stopping power, but the two I stated above is what I'd carry, especially if I was alone.
I have a charter arms AR7 & ruger 77/22 stainless.The AR7 is finicky on ammo but tried different brands till I found what mine liked best for accuracy & minimal jamming.I'd go with my ruger though as I'm more comfortable with it.I'd have to go with it & leave the centerfires behind as in my area small critters would be what make the most meals.
Are you interested in hunting rifles or pack guns?Quote:
Originally Posted by survivorman.
For pack guns, I have a beautiful early 1900s 4/10 break open single shot 4/10, a Mossburg 4/10 bolt that is so old and rusty I don't care what becomes of it, a Remington slide action .22 take down (with takedowncase), a Model 12 Winchester short (18 inch) barrel 12 ga, and two Savage slide action 12 gages with 18 inch barrels, one from the 1920s, one from the 1950s.
I had one of those M-6 survival rifles when I was a kid (though I had to check it out on the web to see what you were talking about). Never thought much of it. It was kind of a marginal gun for hitting anything. Appears to be still available through Springfield Armory.
Hey anyone know how accurate the SPRINGFIELD M6 SCOUT RIFLE is?
I was doing some searching and came across this, I didnt hear anyone mention the Kel-Tec SU-16, if anyone wants to check it out
http://www.equipped.org/Kel-Tec_SU-16_Review.htm
that Kel-Tec SU-16 , thats an assault carbine not a survival rifle. really bloody cool though , whats the price ?, are they legal in canada? , and where can i get one?
i say .22's make the best survival rifles if not for the single fact that there ammunition is so small and light . id hate to carry around a few hundred, 30-06 , 7mm , 7.62x39mm, .308 , or .50 cal shells