Smooth. I watch Dora because I'm just that hardcore.
btw, PHAT is an acronym for "Pretty Hot And Tempting" (aka you are too old for being phat :D )
Just stay old-school, it's easier for you old people.
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A gas range can be lit with a match or lighter.
A gas water heater is handy dandy.
Keep flashlights in the house along with spare batteries as well as candles and oil lanterns.
You lose the meat and claim it on your home owner's policy.
Get a police scanner. It can keep one informed. Keep the batteries charged.
Invest in a generator.
Most pumping stations have generators.
I'll read less in a power outage haha.
The winters here often bring freezing rain and sleet rather than snow. When those occasions arise power lines break like twigs and roads get blocked very often. So to the above...been there, done that...many times. It's fun though.
What the? How did I miss this? I'll have you know I has hot this very day. Turned the furnace off and opened the front door. As for being tempting. You've never seen my in speedo's so you really don't know now do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by AP
We lost a freezer jammed full of blackberries, strawberries, fish, venison, corn, beans, etc. The insurance company didn't give us crap for it. Probably $10,000 worth of food, we made $100 after the $500 deductible.
That's one of those deals where the wife comes home and finds you in the middle of the garage floor eating your way past the blackberries and heading into the strawberries.
Wow really? We had a big power outage once when I was growing up, and State Farm replaced all that food. It was pretty much an honor system - inventory your food and give it a cost kind of thing. Maybe things are different now. So much for working off of precedent.
My policy only covers $250 of actual cost of food lost during a power outage.And earthquake insurance automatically included in the policy ,I got the insurance through the company I got the mobile home through,since it it was less than half the cost through another carrier,for the same coverage.
Actually, it started out as speedos but once it got all sucked up in places it turned into a loin cloth. I wonder if that's why my voice is so high?
I stand by my previous statement.
Prior to this thread being hijacked about grandparents and speedo's we where talking out going with out electricity.
Over here that happens from time to time however i have found a way around it
http://www.amazon.com/Solaris-USB-Ci...d=MXQ5EV27UHT7
these little thing wont power your house but they will recharge phones, GPS, batteries (AAA, AA, C, D cells), I-pods or anything that charges of off usb. If you couple them with a usb recharger like this
http://www.amazon.com/Solo-3-4-Lithi...d=MXQ5EV27UHT7
u can constantly charge from the recharger. It takes about 5 hours of direct light to recharge a phone with just the panels about 2 hours with the usb recharger. Just a handy back up 2 keep the small electronics going.
About the only thing I care about is the cell phone. I just plug them into their car chargers.
What would I do without electricity? I'd have a damned good excuse as to why I always miss the toilet in the middle of the night...
Gotta agree with that. My neighbors unfortunatly, did not.....they moved.
Could have sworn that there was a post from Hopeak that said I won't live anywhere that I can't walk out my back door and pee. Don't know where it went. Oh well it's late.
Well, when that happens here, right now... we would be hard pressed to preserve the cold food goods. We wouldn't open the refrigerator or the freezer except as necessary and not for very long. I am working towards getting a generator and specially wiring a separate circuit in the house for it. I don't like those generators that sense when the power goes out and automatically switch on... machines break once in awhile and I just don't trust the automatic mechanism.... we are here most of the time anyway so would be here to switch it over. We would be having steak instead of peanut butter sandwiches like our neighbors.
Heat is to be generated by a wood stove shed outside (also hooked up to the generator) and ducted in to floor ducts that I'll put in. Right now, I rely on Cadet individual room wall heat that I put in some time ago. I am in the midst of remodelling the house at present.. it is taking awhile to do that so am wanting to incorporate some survival self sufficiency upgrades at the same time. I am thinking of solar power for the south facing roof side but that is long future.
Honestly ... right now though it is flash lights and kerosene lanterns and warm blankets.
Ridge - Most of the auto transfer switches are gravity switches. The utility power lifts the switch and holds it in place. When the utility power fails the switch drops by gravity and the generator kicks on. When utility power is restored it lifts the switch and shuts down the generator. Obviously, that's a simplified explanation. By the way, you can even buy them used.:D
What would I do if the electricity went out? Probabaly get drunk and go looting, it's the American way.
What would I do if the electricity went out? O' shoot drunk looters, "It's the American way".
Oo. Oo. I know. I'd taunt cops to use their tasors. Go 'head. Go on. Try me. ZZZZZZZzzzztttt! Batteries? No one said anything about batteries. ZZZZZZZzzzzztttt!
Cop: Hey, look. He wet himself.
When we had a power outage, the electric company paid for our spoiled food. We had to submit an itemized list, that totaled $125. They just sent us a check. This might be a Michigan law though. It's not like the electric company advertises this fact.
I also got a 12vdc 6 inch electric fan. If the power goes out in the summer I just grab a 12v battery and hook up the fan.
What would I do without electricity? I'd head to wilderness-survival.net and complain about it!
Oh, wait...
The first ten years we lived here, we were often without power. It got to be "no big deal."
For long term power loss: Fire up the wood stove for heat, use candles (hundreds on hand) for light, hook up the wood range in the summer kitchen for cooking, clean out the outhouse (for obvious reasons), use the sauna for washing, get the wringer, tubs and washboard out of the top of the garage for laundry.
Biggest problem would be potable water. I think I have a hand pump around somewhere, but it is only a shallow well pump. As long as the reservoir was high enough in the drilled well we could use that - otherwise - we'd have to use water from the lake - which would have to be filtered. We have a number of pump camping filters, and a two gallon bag filter, but the filter needs to be cleaned quite often. Either method would be a pain in the neck, but workable.
Water is the most important resource someone will need in order to survive after an emergency or disaster. The average person can survive 3 to four days without water. Unfortunately water from lakes and rivers etc. can often be contaminated with chemicals or germs which can make you very ill and possibly die. As Coleridge put it in his Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, "Water, water, everywhere, nor any drop to drink." His mariner was on the sea, surrounded by water, all of it undrinkable. Sometimes, on land, the situation can be just as dire. Most of the world's deadliest diseases are waterborne. Water can carry parasites, giardia, cryptosporidium, bacteria, algae, viruses & fungi. Diseases like Dysentery, typhus, cholera are all spread by contaminated water and are the causes of more human deaths than virtually any other cause. So as a result it is imperative for you to plan how you are going to provide water in case of an emergency or disaster. It is recommended that you should store a minimum of 1.5 gallons per person per day for a 3 day period. A good way to store this amount of water would be in a 55 gallon drum. If you are unable to store water or if you go through your three day supply you will have to find an alternative source of water whether it is a river, lake, or pond. Of course water from anyone of these sources could carry parasites, giardia, cryptosporidium, bacteria, algae, viruses & fungi that can make you very sick if you don’t purify the water before you drink it. There are a couple options one can choose from when purifying water which include boiling, water tablets or water filters.
Option 1: Boiling water – This is generally the safest method to destroy any disease & organisms. In order to boil water you will need a source of heat either from a fire or a camp/emergency stove (I recommend a CampChef stove) a camp pot or cup. If the water you locate is murky or cloudy some people like to first pour the water through a coffee filter/paper towel to get rid of any sediment that may be in the water, of course this is optional. Make sure that you bring the water to a rolling boil for a minimum of 60 seconds plus one added minute for each 1000 feet above sea level in order to ensure that all living organisms are dead. If the water taste flat after boiling it may need to be aerated, this can be done by pouring water back and forth between 2 containers.
Option 2: Tablets – This option is the most light weight and portable solution. There are two common types of tablets that are available to purify water Iodine & Chlorine. If the water you locate is murky or cloudy some people like to first pour the water through a coffee filter/paper towel to get rid of any sediment that may be in the water before you add the tablets, of course this is optional.
Iodine Tablets – Iodine will kill pathogens that are heat resistant. When using iodine drop the tablet in the water and wait 30 minutes before drinking the water as per instructions on the bottle. You can also use liquid iodine. If there are no directions on the iodine bottle use 12 drops to the gallon of water. If the water is cloudy, double that quantity. Again, mix well and allow to stand for thirty minutes. Iodine is a quick and easy solution. Pregnant women and people with thyroid problems should contact a physician before taking iodine.
Chlorine Dioxide Tablets - Like the iodine this is also a light weight and portable solution for water purification. Chlorine Dioxide is a stronger pathogen killer than iodine and will not discolor the water. To use these tablets drop them in your water and wait 15 minutes before drinking as per the instructions on the bottle. The water will have a slight chlorine taste. You can also use liquid bleach found in your home - Liquid Chlorine Bleach: Be sure the bleach you have on hand for this purpose contains only sodium hypochlorite (5.25% solution) with no soap, phosphates, scents, etc. For one gallon of clear water, add 8 drops (1/8 tsp) of bleach. To five gallons of clear water add 32 drops (1/2 tsp.) If the water is cloudy, double these amounts. Use this eye dropper or spoon for nothing else. At the time the bleach is purchased, it should be dated. Bleach which is over a year old has lost about half its strength so the quantities you use would have to be doubled. After adding the bleach to the water, mix well and let stand for thirty minutes before using.
Note: Both chlorine and iodine will impart a taste to the water. Pouring the water from one container to another several times will help dissipate some of that taste by re-oxygenating the water. If you have some Tang or Kool-Aid they will help disguise these tastes for children.
Option 3: Water Filters - Water Filters will remove bacteria, cysts and parasites & filters can remove many waterborne chemicals and even filter out "off" tastes that boiling or tablets cannot. These filters are made in various sizes and output capacities. Some are small enough to be carried in a backpack. It would be advisable to have several of these on hand. Filters are an excellent option when you have the need for something that you can carry and will last long term.
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That's nice now go introduce yourself in the Intorductions section paaaaalease.
I don't know....kind of looks like spam to me.
i lived in VA in 2003 when irene went through(think it was irene) anyway, we had no power for 9 days. i lived near saluda va.
we came together as a community, for the most part and made it through.
we grilled the meats that were thawing in our freezers and we all ate together.
Black and white and even mexicans all joinin forces and gettin by.
gasoline was near non - existent so we took turns going to the water and ice depots FEMA and the red cross had set up. whoever went would get for the whole community.
then next time someone else went.i was in better shape than some because i had a gas stove while they had electric. we made coffee ect at my house. i still griled with the community.
the first thing i ddi when i moved in was to remove the electric stove and replace it with gas because i have been through extended power outages growing up and knew how vital gas was.
it was a trying time because i was due to deliver Alexys on the 19th of sept, the day the hurricane hit. she held off till the 26th. i was glad of that but that last week was rough, lol.
it was trying and frustrating but i made it through and even made some friends i didnt have before.
That's good information, Mecklar and I'm sure that you intended to impart wisdom and knowledge to the group. So you won't mind if I deleted your link. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's generally a duck. Until I know for certain your post isn't spam I'll just leave up there.
If, on the other hand, you have an interest in that web site then I suggest you read and follow the forum rules.
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Hi Rick,
Thanks! I wasn't trying to spam just sharing an article I wrote from my blog & store that I thought might be useful.
Mecklar75
You can put your store URL in your signature but not in the body of a post. The signature actually works out better for you because it will appear on every post you make.
I would go camping.
I have family in East Texas and during Katrina the electricity was out for about 2 weeks and my sister lost to large chest freezers of food that could have been prevented with a fairly small generator.
If the electricity went out here in WV the first thing I would do is relax and evaluate the posiability of it being long term or permanet outageand them start using the fresh and frozen produce and converting it to long term storage (canning , smoking and dehydrating) using wood if possiable (renewable fuel source) . I would also try to keep a low profile on these preperations. During Katrina, even hundreds of miles from New Orleans there were wide spread theft and looting . Armed guards on the gas stations.
I've got 2 small generators (1800 watts and 7500 watts). When I was without power for an extended period I ran the smaller generator about 3 hours during the day and at night while we slept. Powered the fridge anytime it was on and a couple of fans. We opened the fridge as little as possible, so twice a day kept all of the perishables just fine. Running it that way I would run through about 5 gallons of gas every 3 - days. Once the perishables are gone, I use less.
during the big black out a few years agone we fired up the propane fridge and used the generator for the freezer and oil lamps for light , cooking was done in the outdoor cook area . slept outside under a tarp to keep cool
our neighbor hood pulled together we had cookouts and games , helped each other out when we could , though a few on public assistance had no clue as to what to do we got them squared away and now they are off p.a . and working .