Dinosaur Chicken Salad Sandwich
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Originally Posted by
Rick
I would bet if you lived 65 million years ago you would have been out there trollin' for T Rex.
"Start with small club. Thump on tail. Run like wind. Get bigger club......"
From CBS "Big Bang Theory" TV Show Season 8, Episode 4, on Oct 6, 2014
"Leonard: What? You're afraid of both dinosaurs and chickens.
Sheldon: Yes, but tell me a dinosaur chicken salad sandwich wouldn't hit the Mesozoic spot."
http://www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/yes-...ouldnt-hit-th/
A good local fishing guide is worth the $
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Originally Posted by
ElevenBravo
Ive NEVER EVER had good luck fishing, either fly nor cast. EB
Luck is only part of it. A good holiday or birthday gift for you may be a guided fishing trip.
I wear the heck out of fishing/hunting guides with questions (on the rare occasion that one will take me). I am sort of like Atz Lee's wife Jane Kilcher (Alaska: The Last Frontier on Discovery Channel). She asks far too many questions and drives her father-in-law crazy. But that is how some of us learn.
I.e. throw your lure/bait where the bait fish are looking for their food and at the time of day the bait fish or nymphs are feeding etc. Think like a fish. Same thing for hunting land based game. A good hunter or fishing person who knows what they are doing can collect more food in less time than a passive trapper much of the time especially in a true survival situation using "speculative tracking". Some of my best guides were indigenous people whose languages I barely spoke, and my father who only answered my first 6 - 12 questions then stopped. He was also a man of few words. Also the laws are very specific therefore many traps and gill nets etc in most parts of Texas, N.A. and Europe and many other parts of the world will get you fined, your gear, boat confiscated and auctioned off with the former possessions of other poachers. I try to always avoid violations of the law. Practice helps me to improve my skills which is second only to psychology in wilderness survival, fines and jail time reduces practice time.
Edit: Joke about guy looking for car keys, same thing hunting/trapping fish/game with whatever improvised means go to where they most likely are:
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/11/better-light/
The law in Indiana has not changed much since 1901: the mesh size was increased from 1/4" to 1/2" for Seine nets (gill nets still mostly illegal exempt for limited commercial fishing which requires expensive permits). Casting nets mesh size maximum is 2" now. source: Indiana DNR.
"Laws of the State of Indiana, Passed at the ... Session of the General Assembly"
https://books.google.com/books?id=Y7...201901&f=false
If you are on a private pond or lake a gill net may be legal but it would make more sense to just go ask a property owner on the waterfront to call for assistance, if you were struggling to survive.
Gar (toothy fish) on nylon cord, fishing clubs etc
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Originally Posted by
ElevenBravo
Thanks TX for the encouragement to find a guide, Ill have to save up for it but it sounds logical! My fishing skills are self taught, I wouldnt mind having a mentor or teacher, even if for just a little while.
EB
Cheaper and often just as good options are to join local fishing clubs through work place (office), worship place (church), or online (meet ups). Probably not a problem for you but I have to control the urge to ask an excessive number of questions or tell the person that their analysis may be faulty. (I.e I need to just shut up and listen, LOL) Always good to volunteer to pay for gas on trip there, bring snacks or whatever.
Once a local guide said that a Gar had rescued his buddy gar fish by bitting the leader line just above the lure. He was demonstrating how to use just a frayed nylon cord to tangle the gar's teeth (no hooks required) on the end of a fly line (casting reel will also work but requires weighted float). I bit my tongue said nothing but it is my belief that the second gar thought he/she could steal the "bait fish" (aka nylon cord) from the first gar's mouth and bit the line in the process. There was no reasoning on how to "free" the gar from it's teeth entangled in the nylon cord. But I could be wrong perhaps fish may have higher powers of deductive reasoning, and logic. LOL Fun with friends and fishing guides regardless.
Edit: I recommend having an agreement with your fishing companion that it is OK to cast behind his/her fish when he/she "hooks" one, because typically the "second fish" is larger than the first. So if this is understood ahead of time there is less likely to be hard feelings, especially if the lines get tangled or if one of you wants assistance netting or landing an unusually large fish. Fish are just as competitive as humans, when a big fish hanging cautiously down deep sees that a smaller fish up higher has caught something, she/he will often aggressively go to see if she can get it or more of the "school" of perceived bait fish. Fish psychology 101.
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fish advice from a long time ago
This guy gave some good fishing advice about 2000 years ago:
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Paraphrasing but he basically said if you fish all night with no luck try a different method. If you can't pay your taxes catch a fish pull a gold coin from it's mouth and pay the IRS because it is never a good idea to mess with them.
I have found a lot of strange things in fish but never a gold coin, but thankfully never had difficulty paying the IRS so perhaps that is why.
Happy birthday fishing dude.
I like your facial hair style, sort of copied it my self. Also I seriously doubt he fished in a full robe like this artist depicted. Minimal tunic or loincloth was more likely. Just my personal opinion.
Find fish by water temp, pack a thermometer (freshwater)
Summary of thermocline section of this guide from Purdue University, full article at:
https://www.extension.purdue.edu/ext...as/as-503.html
Hopefully this basic theory with some common sense and practice may help some readers to locate (and land) common freshwater fish without a lot of expensive and bulky electronics (sonar) and time (USGS “real time” gauges online tell you what the water temp is before you leave home, but take a little thermometer with you anyway for obvious reasons.):
Warmwater species such as catfish feed most heavily in the water temperature range of 75-90ºF. Optimum feeding temp for channel catfish is 85ºF and spawning begins at 75ºF.
Warmwater Sunfish such as bluegill start feeding at 55-60ºF, eggs hatch at about 70ºF, active up to about 80ºF then feeding declines.
Black/Largemouth bass: feeding increases from 50-68ºF, from 68-80ºF degrees they feed heavily. But above 80ºF their feeding declines. Spawning begins at 62-65ºF
Smallmouth bass feed mostly between 50°F - 80°F
Crappie: at 45-50°F start to move from deep water to shallow, 50-55°F congregate at creek outlets to lakes/ponds, 55-60°F males form spawning beds while females are around deeper structures, 62-65°F idea shallow spawning, 70-75°F males guard nests, females go to deeper water around structure. Warmer the fry become independent, adults males move to deeper structure going up and down for optimum temperature to feed and digest.
Easiest to catch all these species when they are guarding nests or during spawn if that is legal in your area.
Bigmouth Buffalofish (not a game fish): As far as I have observed these, freshwater drum and common carp (not genetically related) actively feed over a wide range of temperature similar to bass and sunfish but also very warm water and they appear to be feeding in water below 40°F but I have only snagged these 3 species below 40°F so I don’t know. They spawn at about 60-65°F but don’t make nests, they will move into small creeks after heavy rains at these temperatures. May taste muddy if you don’t purge them in clear water for a few days (net, pen or tank). But despite the small bones are eatable.
Coolwater species: Walleye and perch actively feed between 60º and 85ºF
Coldwater species: Salmon and trout optimal feeding range is 48-65ºF. (I have personally observed most active feeding is between 50-60ºF for common trout.) But they feed outside this range from about 35 to 75ºF? just not very aggressively.
In some states it may be illegal to catch/spear/net what would otherwise be considered a “rough” or “trash” fish during its spawn for example in Texas. “Fishing Restrictions for Spawning Alligator Gar: When conditions such as water temperature and flooding events would be conducive for spawning of alligator gar, the TPWD Executive Director may temporarily prohibit taking or attempting to take alligator gar in a specified area for a period not to exceed 30 days. Conditions that would be used to invoke this action include water temperatures between 68 to 82°F and occurrence of moderate flood levels as defined and reported by U.S. Geological Survey gauges (see www.srh.noaa.gov/wgrfc).” Note that is particular species of gar has risen to being a sport fish in Texas with a daily bag limit of 1. The power of TV fishing shows I guess. All gar are eatable, they just have thick scales and many bones.
When fish are outside of these ranges they tend to expend excessive energy heating or cooling to properly digest their food so go for months without feeding much, therefore targeting them as a food source may be a waste of time. Legally with a hook and line that is. If you are desperate in a wilderness survival situation using a casting, seine or dip net or by hand, if game fish are slow and dormant may be effective. Just don’t do this for sport if local or state law prohibits it. Alaska for example may allow it but for personal use only, not for sale or barter.
Thermocline 101 basics:
Cooler water can hold more dissolved gases (oxygen, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, etc.) resulting in thermal stratification commonly referred to as the thermocline. Water has its maximum density at 39.2ºF. In spring, water temperatures are nearly equal at all depths in a pond or lake. As a result, nutrients, dissolved gases, and fish wastes may be evenly mixed throughout, assuming minimal wind and creek inlets etc. As the days become warmer, the surface water becomes warmer and lighter while the cooler-denser water forms a layer underneath. Circulation of the colder bottom water is prevented because of the different densities between the two layers of water. Dissolved oxygen levels decrease in the bottom layer since photosynthesis and contact with the air is reduced. The already low oxygen levels are further reduced through decomposition of waste products, which settle to the bottom. As a result if you are fishing on a still body of water in the summer you many not catch many fish down deep in the water column even if that is where the temperature is most ideal for them. Personally I look for sudden drop-offs or rapid thermoclines near structure with just a weight on the end of cord/line to “sound the depth” but this is obviously not as effective as top quality sonar electronics. Also I use a weighted “trout stream” thermometer on a cord, its very small and multipurpose. Basically if there is a steep cliff or point above the water compared a gentle slope the features under the water will most likely be similar, thus a sharp thermocline which fish like. It is actually more complicated than this and there are many articles about it. Here is one:
http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/thermocline.html
There are also many articles and videos on what structures to look for and why. It pains me to see newbies casting into open water and avoiding structure because they are afraid they will snag their hook and lose it. Like the joke of guy looking for his car keys under a streetlight.
