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You know, it's amazing what can be accomplished with the up and down arrows.... After you told me that a thread did exist, I went looking it darn if it didn't take all of 30 seconds... Now I've come back here to eat some tasty crow... Oh well, not a very auspicious beginning...
Hey, crow seems to be a great survival food. I eat it all of the time.;)
mmmm... crow, ive had that once or twice...
Anybody notice all the votes for Les Stroud & only one for "Grylli Vanilli"? :D Hey bear, you actually have a fan! Maybe he'll even buy your $700 knife!:eek: No matter how hard I try, I still can't get that picture of Bear doing push-ups in the snow, bare-arsed nekked, out of my mind!:eek::cool:
Careful Sarge. Chiye Tank may send the Spirt Talkers to visit you.;)
Can we just call a spade a spade? Bear is an adrenaline junkie and a fraud! The BBC has already outed him for staying in hotels when he claimed that he was sleeping in the bush. Also if you watch his show very closely you can see where events are sooo staged. The one show where he was in the rockies and used a rabbit stick to take out a rabbit, if you look closely you see that the rabbit is staked out. And yet we are subjected to frauds like bear and Jeraldo by the producers of these shows (Oh that's right Bear is one of the producers of his show)
I'm a little late to the conversation, but in my opinion Survivorman is the better series, and Les the superior survivor..
1. Les shows his triumphs and his failures..
2. Les survives for a week on his own (not for the couple hours he spends filming, whereupon he retreats to his hotel with his camera crew)..
3. Les came up with the idea first
(reading alot of yahoos claiming Les stole Bear's thunder)..
Man Vs Wild, Oct 27, 2006, Survivorman November 1st, 2004
4. Les is Canadian..
Case closed, in my opinion..
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One thing I can't stand is Les's annoying Shater-lite cadence when he's doing his opining monologues, etc..
If I'm going to sur'viiive in this barren wilderness, it's going to take every oooounce of strength to...
LOL
Les does that to "sell" the series to the "armchair survival freaks". It creates suspense, drama, & ratings for Discovery Channel!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by dougz
Don't get me wrong, it's a great show and I have nothing against even what he says during these segments..
I just wish he'd use his normal voice.. :)
And when a jaguar shows up outside Les' camp he does the normal, rational thing. He runs for his LIFE!!! Now THAT's survival! LOLOLOL
If I remember correctly in one of Bear's episodes he took off running for his life in the middle of the night because he heard a sound in the brush. He didn't even know what it was.....just a sound. It could have been a coon, skunk, dear, etc..., Whatever it was he ran like a scared puppy. It appears that the British SAS trained killer is afraid of things that scurry in the ground litter at night.
It was probably the local Girl Scout Troop out foraging for mushrooms.Quote:
Originally Posted by klkak
Bear was with the TA to which the SAS were attached to as a regiment, a slight difference. He tends to "bend" the facts.
Like my father served with an American Special Forces unit but was a Canadian soldier not an American Special Forces, they just needed his lets say... "expertise" He even got a citation from the Americans.
Klkak: if memory serves me it was a buddy dressed in a cartoonish suit a la Yogi Bear, seen picture of it. Ron Hood was on his first shows as an advisor but quickly disassociated himself.
I was under the weather this weekend and stayed in the sack with the tv on watching a good ole Les marathon to help me sleep. I did wake up when Les and 2 guys went hunting somewhere in the temperate zone of either the US or Canada, don't remember which. 3 men, 3 bright red Honda quads back into the boonies, parked and went in 3 different directions. Les had a nice camo ground stand, another had a permanent tree stand, the other from the ground. Rained like crazy, Les ventured forth, didn't know where he was, used his universal signal 3 shots bang, bang 10sec delay then bang, an answering bang then a game of here I am, where are you, oh by the way his 3 well timed shots were fired into the underbrush, one way to find his friends, couldn't find their ATVs and Les' hand held GPS batteries were dead after only a full day?? No compass? Walked to a tree stand but didn't know what direction to the ATV? They did their survival bit, badly for over 7 days before being found by SAR. I left a lot out, but plenty of chuckles for someone like me in my kind of territory. I think he has a taste for snake, frogs and other fish bait. Guess inbreeding does that.
Went shopping today and when I cam home I got my last Christmas present in the mail. Kids picked me up the second season of Survivorman.... YEA!!! :D
Les is probably a better survivor. Not to say Bear isnt as good but they are filming at 2 different perspectives. Les has no crew for safety so he cant do all the high speed dangerous things Bear does. Bear appeals more to me on my military background side. But Les is my choice for a true survivorman. But lets face it both shows are set to get ratings and make money for networks and the hosts. Its a rough job but someones gotta do it. I dont know....its just TV.
As I've posted before, Bear is an accomplished mountaineer/climber, he was in the British Special Forces (for 3 years), he's in outstanding physical condition, passed the training tests for the French Foreign Legion (which is a truly great accomplishment) and is the youngest person to successfully climb Everest. BUT the show is dangerous!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MANABA
I'll agree to that. As I've mentioned before, I saw the episode where he jumped into a Montana river and floated his way downstream to find civilization. He then casually walked to the road and got a lift. He failed to mention that Montana rivers are formed from snow run-off, mountain springs, or cold rains. 99% of people trying this same stunt would die from hypothermia unless it's in July or August.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Wolf
bear is too commercialized. he also does very dangerous stunts that will get you killed. tries to paint a glamorous picture of a crappy reality....
Following allegations in 2006 that the show deceived viewers into believing that he was really stranded in the wild when he was not, Channel 4 temporarily suspended the show for a few weeks. Discovery aired re-edited episodes, removing elements that were considered too planned, with a fresh voice-over and a preceding announcement pointing out that some situations are 'presented to Bear to show the viewer how to survive'. Both Discovery and Channel 4 have continued to broadcast the program.
An adviser to the Man vs. Wild/Born Survivor series had claimed that Grylls had been staying at a California lodge while filming. A crossing of a deep crevasse was shown to be within sight of a road. Bear was shown taming 'wild' horses who had horseshoes on their hooves when the film was examined closely and which turned out to be ex-Ranch horses. Similarly, it was alleged that Grylls had stayed at a crew base-camp in the Costa Rican jungle, while giving viewers the impression that he was alone. Further, there have been several other incidents, including the impression Bear built a raft "in a matter of hours with no tools." According to the adviser, the raft was actually in part built by a show stunt consultant. This particular episode implied was filmed on a small south pacific island, which as Channel 4 revealed was actually a small peninsula in Hawaii, the scene of at least three Hollywood movie shoots. These allegations were confirmed by Channel 4, who argued that it was not a documentary, but a "how-to" guide to survival, implying that re-shot scenes were acceptable in that context. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: