Why don't you try posting an introduction so we know if you are 9 or 90? You can use this template to get you started.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=7813
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Why don't you try posting an introduction so we know if you are 9 or 90? You can use this template to get you started.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=7813
Not sure if there is a catagory for this...i just joined so here it is.
This is a on-going list i'm making for a survival. I will try out all my gear when i get it but i am in the plannijng process now so please add or remove what you items feel neccessary, thanks.
Wool blanket or sleeping bag (both)
Knife with firesteel
lighter
Canteen
Hatchet
Compass
Casio Pathfinder watch
First aid kit ( what should it include )
GPS with soar kit
Sunglasses
Shake or crank Flashlight ( no batteries )
Osprey argon 110 pack
50-100ft. 550 paracord
Sewing kit
Multi-tool
Hat
Raingear
Tarp
Duct tape
Mess kit
Fishing kit
towel
food
Mosquito net
Map
Chap stick
Water purifier ( what kinds )
This is just a general list not meant for a specific enviroment, just a basis that i always want to have and then can add based on where i go you know.
Uh-oh. A Mod will be along shortly to help you with the correct procedures here. More importantly, you will find NUMEROUS, very long threads on this very quandry. Good luck.
Yo Woodsman, How about going over to the intro section and introduce yourself and tell us a bit about yourself.
Are you looking for input because you are missing some important items. An intro would be helpful so we know how old you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
1. Whistle (Tornado or Storm are both good. There are other good ones out there just make certain it's pealess)
2. Mirror (StarFlash is about the best one the market)
A wool blanket and a sleeping bag are pretty darn heavy to be packing.
I'd also add some small cash in-case you find it back to civilization and really need something to drink or eat.
I think it would be much more beneficial for you if you could specify more the environment where you atleast planning to go and that way we could maybe give you more specific tips about your gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWoodsman
Truth is that there is basically same gear list in every survival book and you will be more than OK with that stuff, but it is more or less the experience that will then build the perfect toolset ... for your needs. :cowboy:
Here is my tip: Add few chemical hand warmers.
I have a survival kit that I carry with me all the time.
You might want to post your introduction in the Introduction thread instead of the Blog section. More folks will see it there. Here's a template you can use if you wish.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=7813
And the Introduction section:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14
here it is not pictured is 12 esbit tabs what do you people think i should add/subtract or change about this kit it weighs about 5 pounds
Definitely add a first aid kit, and some food of some sort. Instant soup, energy bars, quick cook pasta meals or noodles, anything to keep the energy up. Also a lighter, waterproof matches can sometimes let you down. If funds permit a good quality knife. I'm sure there's more!
You might want to add a water bottle with some water and at least some hard candy for energy and also will help keep your mouth moist. I find that a good sour lemon hard candy tends to keep my mouth the most moist.
i have the playpus bottle if you look at the picture it is listed as "waterbottle" it is one of those collapsable ones the psp+ has a fixed blade knife in it and i already have a granola bar but i probably should add another so ill do that and ill get a lighter to go in there when i get a chance
I realize you have an empty water bottle. But when you start out you should have a full bottle just in case you do not find water before you need a drink.
I think I'd swap out one of the ponchos and one space blanket for a sheet of thick clear plastic, 10 X 12' and swap out the box cutter for a sturdy fixed blade. I'd also lose the matches and add a fire steel and some tinder. And, I'd add a basic first aid kit with a mirror, tweezers, bandaids, compresses, gauze, micropore tape, pain killers, vitamins, eye wash, anti-bacterial ointment, alcohol pads, and such.
Looks good though.
Water purification tablets and the Platypus collapsible bottle are good, but keep in mind that tablets may not get rid of some nasties in the water. Maybe a canteen cup or other metal container for boiling water? I would include back-ups to your matches as well.
Oh - and you forgot to label the shoes in the picture.:D
there is a metal cup, and i forgot to picture the fixed blade knife,i always carry a little first aid kit in my pockets im gonna go and get a painters tarp and put some holes in it to go in there becuase thats a good suggestion and i just added a lighter and this is not used as my normal pack which does have water in it some more bars and a bigger first aidkit but this is incase i lose my pack
In my opinion - the most important thing to do - regardless of the size of the kit - is to take it out and try it. See if it does what you need it to do. If it does, then you have the confidence in both your kit and your abilities. If you need to adjust it a bit, then you get immediate feedback.
I recommend "The Herb Book" by John Lust
It has over 2,000 listings with over 275 line drawings. It is referenced, & cross referenced. It tells the Common Names, Medicinal Parts, Descriptions, Properties & Uses, as well as Preparation & Dosage. It starts at the basics, even explaining how to make a decoction, infusion, tincture,...
It even lists plant dyes by plant, or color. It is a must for health survival, in the field.
I feel that this is an invaluable part of anyone's kit.
Scenario:
- Number: 2 persons
- Location: A forest in British Columbia (or Alberta?)
- Length: 20 days
- Time: May
Here's the whole equipment list:
• Mosquito net
• Snare wire
• Cordage
• Survival Knife
• Penknife
• Fry pan (and a cover for boiling water?)
• Water bottle
• Fishing line and hook(s)
• Bear spray
• Flint
• Flashlight + Batteries
• Cotton-ball tinder into a zip-lock bag
• First Aid Kit
• Poncho
• Small axe
• Backpack
• A canoe waterproof bag (for food storage in the trees)
• Minimal food rations
• Whistle
• Wild Edible Plants/Berries (book or notes)
• {Optional?} Straps and carabiners
• {Optional?} Earplugs
• {Optional?} Condoms
• {Optional?} Knife sharpener
• {Optional?} Large garbage bag (for tree stills)
• {Optional?} Working gloves
• {Optional?} Trail flags
• {Optional?} Plastic spoon
• {Optional?} Duct tape
Too huge? Unrealistic? Unfitting? Comment.
If you could give your advice on whether or not you consider the "{Optional?}" marked items as being optional, it'd be great.
And finally, what should the First Aid Kit contain?
EDIT: I realize I used the term "Survival Kit"... that's more of a list of equipment I'd bring to "live off the land". Please base your answers on this fact. =)
Well, 1st I noticed that you listed "condoms" which was plural; then I noticed that you listed TWO people...hmmm :creepy:Quote:
Originally Posted by payne
Remember the 4 essentials of survival, they are...?
Next, group your items under those 4 categories.
Finally, your 1st aid kit should contain 1st aid items. For a more detailed list use the "search" function. Hope this helps. :whistling:
Well, if your knife is not field sharpenable with a smooth stone, you are gonna need a knife sharpening device.
Boiling water in your frying pan makes terrible water. A stainless steel water bottle will boil water. Frying pan is useless without some grease/lard/oil.
Why a plastic spoon? Get metal so you can cook with it.
I'll only mention three things and then let others comment.
1. Glad you have a FAK listed. Many young people think their impervious to injury
2. How about a map and compass in case you get lost or need to know the fastest route back to civilization.
3. How much is "Minimal food rations?" You're going to go through a lot of calories on your trek and if you don't have the food available, you're going mighty hungry.
Why metal? I'll use a wood stick to cook. =PQuote:
Originally Posted by Winter
And plastic weights less than metal.
1. For 20 days, it'd be really stupid. ;oQuote:
Originally Posted by RangerXanatos
2. Humm... I'll ask my partner to have those I guess. I did not think about the "fastest route": I had in mind we'd only come back on our path. This will be taken in consideration based on the spot where we will go. Thanks. =)
3. This is meant to be a survival trip, not a simple trek. The minimal food will be used only if we -really- need it. It'll probably consist into "gruel" and something else with very high calories, proteins and carbohydrates.
:creepy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
On a more serious note, condoms could be used to collect rainwater, transport water from a stream to the fire, or can also be used as gloves (I guess?).
And why should I group my items into "Fire/Shelter/Water/Food/Medical/Signal" ? =/
Anyways, many items can be used in many categories. =P
On 1st Aid Kit:
Most of it, minus sunscreen.
Makes sense? ;o
I'd give the responsibility of assembling the 1st Aid Kit to my partner since he's the one that knows the most about that stuff. =P
Hunting license?
Definitely a map and compass.
Are you going on a planned hike or are you thinking you are going to live off the land under the radar for 20 days? Just be sure to tell someone when you will be back so they can send out the SAR when you don't come back.
Thing's to consider swapping out.
The pen knife for a SAK
The frypan for a jet boil.
The plastic Spoon for a titanium Spork.
You don't need the waterproof canoe bag use a trash bag to hang.your food with
Duck tape is always a good thing to have. And a way to sharpen your knives is a good idea.
With that kit for 20 days in the forests of BC or Alberta, your skill level as well as your partner's had better be extremely high.
Problem is, we aren't sure yet of the number of days we'll stay in there. As I see it right now, if we're really enjoying it like crazy little kids (I can still dream =P), we might stay longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowKey
Sorry for looking stupid, but what is a SAK? And why would it be better than a pen knife?Quote:
Originally Posted by welderguy
And also, what is a jet boil? XD
Keep in mind I'm not a native English talking person: I'm a French-canadian... so my vocabulary some times limit my comprehension. =P
A trash bag would get raped by squirrels and other small mammals, no? The canoe bag is robust.
And talking about sharpening knives. I remember Bear Grylls doing so with little rocks spread on a wood stick. Is this method valuable? Do you have other good "wild" methods?
EDIT: And what about a Field Repair Kit? I guess it could prove itself to be useful in many occasions. Or will duct tape always do the trick?
Swiss army knife - SAK.
squirrels can eat thru just about anything , as can coons. Well yea grylls did it but he also drinks piss nuff said there.
A jetboil is a compact stove that packs up Into a cup
/ cooking pot. , google them you might like it.
My suggestion is that you take that kit as you have it laid out and spend the week-end with it. Determine what worked and what didn't and adjust accordingly. Then try your modified kit for the week-end. Determine what worked and what didn't and adjust accordingly. If you do that three, four or five times you should come out with a kit that is right for you. If you expect to put that kit together then go out and tackle your 20 days or whatever number you decide on it's going to be a pretty miserable experience.
@rick, I've had the same bag for 6 years now and I still do that.
Jetboil looks utterly useless: I'll use fires to boil my water... ;oQuote:
Originally Posted by welderguy
I thought "pen knife" where SAK. I was really talking about SAK, in fact. :P
But now, a new question arises: what kind of options/tools should the SAK have? There are so many different set-ups...
Problem being I will not have a single time to try it out until I must leave home once I finish school... and once I leave home, I'll have this whole equipment list with me, so there aren't much chances to change things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I'll meet my partner weeks after I left, so if he ever he feels the need for it, he can test my list on his own.
I can personally only rely on the draft I'll have elaborated with you guys by the end of school session.
I'm pretty sure it's hard to "miss-use" that kind of basic equipment and I really don't see what could really turn bad with these items. =/
P.S. By "leaving home", I mean 5000+ Km of hitch-hike adventure. ;P
I am really glad to see a 'list" of items........A whole lot more thought went into it, congrats.
Might want to check into fishing license...... easy way to gather protein, and you don't really have to be there.
Swiss Army Knife has been in my pocket for close to 50 years, and use it just about every day.
Basic knife, 2 blades, can opener/screw driver, bottle opener/screw driver, saw, awl, scissors, tooth pick, tweezers....and if your gonna bring condoms, maybe a cork screw for the fine wine........
I think I have the "Huntsman" in my pocket now.
Told you guys I was under rush and would have time to work on the project after the exams. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
Final exams are coming pretty fast, though... =/
Anyhow, I'm nearly done reading the 443 pages of Army's Survival Guide: I've reached the Appendixes, so it's not really like I can take much more notes out of it.
I soon should start trying to a fire going with only wood and cord (bow drill method). Anyone knows which type of fire produces the less smoke as possible?
Propane...............Quote:
Originally Posted by payne
For a SAK, just make sure it has a knife blade, saw, and scissors. A file is also good. You will use those more than anything else.
You will want to bring something to sharpen your knife. You can sharpen in the field, but that takes experience, which you will only gain by ruining a knife or two. Not something you want to risk outside of practice. Besides, there are some pretty small knife sharpeners out there.
You will also want something separate to boil water in, besides the fry pan. Someone mentioned a metal water bottle. Make sure it isn't aluminum. Stainless or titanium only. You can get a stainless one for $5, and a titanium one for $50.
That would really kill the experience, in my honest opinion. =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Sourdough
Ok, thanks. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by finallyME
What experience are you aspiring to achieve. And, Why that experience over another...?Quote:
Originally Posted by payne