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Originally Posted by Justin Case
And if you watch the Les one he went to the exact same place took the exact same route and ate the exact same things.
Probably the only time i seen Les eat.LMAO
Wow with all these Military guys you should know in your handy dandy books about eating insects.
I got the same books.
Even Scott O' Grady survived off of ants while shot down behind enemy lines.
Did anyone even watch the Scott O' Grady story?
Got to work for them.
Thats not an insect, Its an Alien !!!
ROTFLMAO!!!
Stand back Skywalker i got this:saberbattle:
Honestly, Les Stroud is much better than Bear Grylls, considering his more fine tuned approach on survival (no disrespect to Bear Grylls). But personally, Ray Mears does a much better job than either of them. He teaches more advanced techniques and gives an in-depth look at nearly all cultures which rely on them. Where as Bear Grylls is for the average person who has little knowledge of bush-craft. Though Man Vs. Wild and Survivorman are both interesting shows, I've learned and formed my interest for bush-craft from Ray Mears. I've learned MUCH more from his documentaries.
Hey ther Bailey.W. When you can, stop on by the Introduction section so we can learn a bit about you. Thanks.
Bear will get you killed if you try what he does.
In a survival scenario you really don't want to be doing all that running around he does.
Mobilty is why I give him high marks. I regret that I'm gradually loosing mine with age. If you are going to be self reliant mobility is important. If you are counting on somebody else to save you then sitting there helpless is the thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Rebel
Even though every SAR organization on the face of the earth recommends that you stay in place so they do not have to chase you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
When did following their recommendations of sitting down, building a fire and getting still so they do not have to chase you down become a character flaw?
You live long enough and you will stop worrying about your "mobility" and get smart enough to buy a personal locater beacon and you can sit down and wait for the good guys to show up.
I couldn't agree more.!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
Sitting on you a$$ because you're contemplating your options is one thing, but growing roots in one place because you're out of shape and having a cardiac is quite another. Make sure you give yourself options.
S.T.O.P.!!! Live by it, or die without it! :sneaky2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
Mobility is a key issue to survival. Then there is my own code that does not allow me to have others do for me what I can do for myself. So if there is a character flaw that would be it from my stand point. With the average IQ being 100 what most people think or recomend does not concern me. I know that when ever I'm in a bad situation I just go home. In the times I had no home I would just look for food or comfort where ever I found it. Finding it requres you to get off your a$$.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
I always love it when "you're going to die" comes into the conversation. Well I havn't died yet, I just went home early. That's why BG is the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
Some people like Bear. Some people don't. Some people like Les. Some people don't. Who cares? If you can take anything useful away from any of these type shows then that's a good thing. Living vicariously through them, not so much.
I agree, with Les, and now even Cody & Dave you learn what to do, with Bear you learn what NOT to do. AS, if you can just go home then you're not in a "survival" situation. :cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
That's just word games. I once walked 3 days and nights in a blowing snow storm with both legs frost bitten knowing if I stopped I was dead. The Richardson Highway was shut down and there were no planes flying. The wind was blowing about 80 mph and at thirty below the Ice crystals hitting me felt like being sand blasted. I made it so I guess it was not a survival situation. You would have sat there and died and it would have been a survival situation. You win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
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Originally Posted by Alaskan Survivalist
I just ran across this. Even though it's been a few years since you deemed it important to be that much of an *** I thought I'd just let you know that it is commonly thought of as a sign of maturity and intelligence to be able to debate someone with a different opinion without being insulting. But take heart, not everyone is cut out to be polite....or in your case...civil...You don't like Bear G....OK, we get it. Neither blind or stupid. Just reporting what I've worked on for the producers of his show and trying to explain how "editiing" works on TV. But hey. You got a phone call about a dead kangaroo, so that makes you an expert based on one experience and some obvious, ignorant assumptions. Please try and not hurt yourself when youfinally agree to the worlds request **********************
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Originally Posted by SOE digital
Wow, .........voices from the past........do I hear? (yoda speak)
Atlanta Randy - It would probably have been a sign of maturity on your part had you passed up the need to argue with a 5 year old post that you had input on at the time. You have the right to disagree with someone on a post but you don't have the right to post what you did. Probably a sign of civility that you passed on, too. That's the problem with calling the kettle black. You painted yourself the same color in the process.
Why not close this thread?.....we have people arguing with people from 5 years ago.......Some never forget....
If some one ants they can start over??//Maybe?
I saw there was a post in it and I thought Holy Cow! Nearly 900 posts on such a bizarre subject. Over that now. Just one guy arguing to make himself feel good. I'll leave it open.
OK......Kinda like watching an ant hill........
If you'd of clicked on S.O.E.'s profile page you'd of found this in the left hand column: "Last Activity: 10-11-2007 7:00AM. What that means is that the dude has been gone for about 4 years! Back then there were no mods and S.O.E. was quick to "flame" anybody that disagreed with him! However he did make a substantial contribution to the site; from him we got the cool word "Numpty," which is UK for idiot!" (Sigh) great times! :2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanta Randy
I think that all the shows have something to offer. Of course things are different if you're with a camera crew. But they post disclaimers at the beginning of each episode. All of them are in a way "demos" of what can be experienced in the bush. Even the one Bear put on with the trucks and equipment doing the wind experiment to show the use of a snow cave for survival in blustery conditions. That's what they're about. And don't forget that in a couple of the episodes of Man Woman Wild she actually got sick due to the conditions and hypothermic in another. I don't believe they sat down to lunch between takes.
So take them for what they are. At least they don't try to vote each other off the island like another show I could mention. When my wife and I tuned in to the first episode of that one, we expected to see something similar to what these shows brought to TV. Needless to say, a second episode has never shown in this house.
Although I like watching both Survivorman and Man vs. Wild I have come to realize that you can't compare the two.
Survivorman is just what the name implies. A man that goes and survives for a week then rendezvous with his crew. Because it is a TV show the crew stays within a certain distance as a safety net, but doesn't come to Les' aid unless (no pun intended) he is in a life threatening situation. He displays the skills and knowledge of survival and films it himself to stay true to the concept of the show and the shows name.
Man vs. Wild on the other hand NEVER says anything about "survival" it is just A MAN VERSUS THE WILD. A la this is just a show of entertainment where a guy runs around in wilderness trying to overcome whatever the wilderness has to offer in radical and entertaining ways. It is and never was meant to be a survival show. It is just a man trying to overcome whatever the wilderness has to offer.
Think of it this way. There is a mountain... Les Stroud's goal is to SURVIVE on that mountain for a week. Bear Grylls' goal is to climb to the top of it and glasade down as fast as possible.
Well I cant say that I haven't learned anything from both of those shows, and that's not all bad. Those guys are just making money being on television and probably lot's of it. Would you take that job if it was offered to you at ( I'm guessing ) $200,000 per show? I would in a heart beat!
I must say that I would rather watch those shows as a heck of a lot of other stuff on TV, like Drag Races, Bridezilla, Orange County Coppers, and an unending list of garbage telivision!
Should we start pulling out a magnifying glass?! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
It's out already,.......LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by natertot
Ant hills go about their business until someone kicks it, and then the frantic scurry.....begins....over and over again.
I'm a big Baden Powell fan! He taught me everything I need to know about survival!
Les stroud is my hero! Bear has some good knowledge but we're not all special forces. Les teaches you to stop and think about what your doing not just jump off a cliff into a freezing river.
if i had to be stranded in the wild and those were the choices for who else is there....les stroud all day long hands down.
I don't know anything about Les Stroud as I've never watched the show but I'd take my chances that he is less of a phony as Bear. Also, it's cool you resurrected a thread that hasn't been active in exactly (almost to the hour) three years. Long live the argument thread!
I agree. I have only seen one or two of Bear Grylls' shows, but from what I have seen, I do not approve. Not that I am an expert, but from what I can gather, Les Stroud has a lot more practical survival tips and advice than Bear Grylls. I've seen quite a bit of Les Stroud's work and I think that he is a better "survivalist".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolls44
i find them as shows, eventhough they do teach you how to make shelters find water and food, but they do not actually show or tell you how laborious or how long and laborious each process are.
I have tried to make primitive emergency shelters and let me tell you..it takes too long, too many materials and very laborious. In the heat, you will drain yourself. To male a bamboo shelter will see you cutting at least 50 pieces of 20 feet bamboo poles, especially when you have to sleep of the ground.
To thatch a palm leave shelter for an adult, you will need at least 60 pieces of palm leaves.
Imagine how long the cutting will take, the transporting and the time taken to construct.
You will need a cutting tool.
As I am teaching, I always tell my students to be ready. A hammock, tarp and a fire making kit is essential and one shuld be ready with them at all times when you go hiking, even for a day hike.
Voted for Les Stroud but would have absolutely no problem in a situation with Cody Lundin[sp?] Now that there would be a great show having those 2 work together.
If I was trying to fight off or evade an enemy force of some sort, I'd rather have Bear by my side. All other survival situations I'd rather be sitting next to Les
.....and a way we goooooooo......
Not gonna do it. No sir. Not me.
Well seems the Les is in the lead a 260 to 46 in the poll......and a lot of voters haven't been around for a long time.....?
The votes still count?
Just realized I hadn't voted....guess I was waiting for Ruth's name to show up.
One more for Les.....