ok will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
also thanks every one ill put it on the to do list as soon as i get access to a grinder.
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ok will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
also thanks every one ill put it on the to do list as soon as i get access to a grinder.
Yep, M4040 is a very good 'knifeologist' (is that a word?). I used his instructions to modify my khukri - what a good field knife! His site is definitely worth a good look over.
Just a little FYI, the becker companion is back. My knife guy got 2 in on Fri, runs around $70.00.
C T I have one of the old Beckers made by Camillus I had 2 but gave one to a local solider headed in harms way.
I did buy one of the Laminated Becker neckers, had an old on but lost it on the hiking trail. I went to order a new carbon Becker necker but they are back ordered right now.
I really admire the Becker Magnum Camp Knife but Ethan Becker say it most likely will not be reproduced due to lack of popularity.
HOP, my knife guy's got 2 of the becker neckers in both steels. If you'd like his info, PM me.
What I usually carry is a small tobacco tin survival kit and for a knife another pouch with a multi tool and a 3" flick survival knife that I got in a set!
Good Luck
Sam
Again with the tobacco tin. How about going on over to the introduction section and tell us about it.
See? It's the roll you own kind for sure.
Thanks C T but I ordered a carbon steel necker and a RAT RC6 today and a Cold Steel folding Bushman. (got a Little carried away).
Here are some inexpensive Knives from Sweden On the left is Hulafors and the right are some Moras. The top mora is about my favorite knife it is laminated. The bottom mora is the most useful to me it is laminated as well.http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...7/100_0686.jpg
i love moras. i have three. they are very inexpensive so i dont feel bad when i abuse them haha. all of my moras are carbon steel.
new knives from breeden!
Nice looking knives.
Survival Knives
In my reasoning a “Survival Knife” is a resource to get you through a “Survival Situation”. All else has failed for some reason and I have to fall back on the contents of my head and the items on my person to stay alive until I can get to safety. The survival knife is the last line of defense.
The very idea of a survival kit located on the sheath knife is that the knife is the most basic piece of gear and stays belted on during any wilderness activity. It cannot fall out of a pocket and is unlikely to be left behind by accident. It is unlikely to be lost overboard or swept away when crossing a river. If a person needs to exit a burning vehicle the kit goes with him while the pack may be lost.
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Placing survival items on a knife sheath also presupposes that the normal items carried in the pack cover any foreseeable needs and that nothing in the knife kit should have to be used under normal circumstances, other than the knife itself. They are limited to the items necessary to spend a night or two in the wilderness and signal for help with no other resources other than the contents of the knife kit. The items in the kit must be capable of getting wet and must not degrade with time.
Knife Choices
Over the years I have been through a constant evolution in terms of what blade occupied this role. For many years I carried a Ka-Bar or the Air Force Survival Knife set up as a kit knife. In both cases I covered the sheaths with a rubber sleeve of some sort and put the kit contents under the sleeve. This system worked very well as long as I paid attention to the condition of the rubber.
Upon arrival in Brazil it quickly became apparent that I would have to carry a machete at all times. The most effective combination here is a machete and a small fixed blade. For a long time I carried the AFSK kit knife in this role. Upon further evaluation I decided that if for some reason I lost the machete that the AFSK would be inadequate by itself. Most often I leave my machete attached to my pack and if it were lost I would be in trouble.
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The Ka-Bar was too light for much of the chopping tasks encountered here. I decided that my survival knife needed to be capable of chopping and clearing trail if it was the only tool I had. I finally settled on the Becker BK-7 and Livesay NRGS neck knife as the tools that always stay on my person in the bush.
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I think ideally the kit should be built around a machete but I know myself in that I don’t like having anything that large attached to me in the bush. The BK-7 kit is about as much as I tolerate. I have a tendency to put my machete on my belt when traveling in heavy brush because the machete is in and out of its sheath often enough to warrant having it on the belt. If I run into the occasional snag I have found the BK-7 to be effective in cutting myself free but it is much harder to swing it constantly like a machete.
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Likewise I vastly prefer the machete for clearing campsites and constructing shelters. The BK-7 can do these things as well but it is more work. I can live with this limitation because I can live with the BK-7 on my belt at all times. I know my habits enough to know that if I am in the bush with only a machete and small fixed blade that the small blade will be on my person and the machete attached to the pack 90% of the time. I’m much less likely to lose the BK-7 and it works well enough for a survival situation if that’s all I have.
BK-7 Kit Knife
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HANDLE CONTENTS – The handle scales of the knife can be removed to reveal two small hollow cavities. These are removed with a small hex-wrench and filled with a fishing/trapping kit: line, sinkers, hooks, wire.
SHEATH CONTENTS – The sheath has a pouch that fits an Altoids tin and there is room below it to attach items with a rubber sleeve. Paracord is attached to the leg tie at bottom of the sheath and the wrist lanyard hole on the handle of the knife.
KNIFE SHARPENER
- US Army ceramic stone, Tied on, rides under velcro strap on top of Altoids tin
FIRE – The kit has both tinder and an initiator that are impervious to the elements.
- Sparklite fire starter, tin
- Sparklite tinder, 4, tin
- BSA Hotspark, in pouch alongside tin
- Straw of treated cotton, spare straw in tin
- Strike anywhere matches, waterproof, 6, under rubber sleeve
- Birthday Candles, 3, under rubber sleeve
- Rubber ranger bands, excellent fire-starters, various locations
WATER – The knife contains both a water container and treatment method.
- 5 liter galăo de Emergęcia, rolled tightly under rubber sleeve below pouch
- Potassium Permanganate, 20mg, tin
SHELTER – The shelter provisions are intended to make the construction of an expedient shelter easier, not necessarily to compose a shelter. There are three components, water/wind proofing, heat proofing, and cordage. In practicality only a space blanket will fit on the sheath, attached by wide black rubber bands below the pouch. The space blanket is waterproof/windproof and will trap body heat. The duct tape is used to seal leaks and join seams. The space blanket and rolled water carrier is no more bulky than the pouch and Altoids tin above them.
- Space Blanket, under rubber sleeve
- Para cord, 7 strand, 2 meters attached as leg tie
- Duct tape, 1 meter, wrapped around space blanket
- Heavy needle and #4 waxed line for clothing repairs, tin
SIGNALS
- Starflash mirror, tin
- ACR Whistle, under rubber sleeve on back of sheath
- Inova Night Vision Red LED light, tin on braided neck cord
- Other signal methods include space blanket as reflector/marker, and fire/smoke
- Night signal reflector on back of medallion compass
NAVIGATION
- Medallion type liquid filled compass with braided #4 waxed-line neck cord, tin
LIGHT
- Inova Night Vison Red LED light
- 3 Birthday Candles
- Fire
MEDICAL
- Moleskin, inside bottom of tin
- 10 Ibuprophen, tin
- Salt, tin
- Potassium Permanganate, tin
- Sterile Scalpel Blade, tin
- Single edge razor blade, tin
Braided neck cord – The compass, Inova LED, ACR whistle, and Starflash mirror are to be attached to the neck cord and worn around the neck at all times during a survival situation. This leaves the compass readily available for navigation. It also leaves the day/night signal capability instantly accessible during the emergency.
BK-7 Kit Camp
With only the contents of this kit I would have the means to construct an improvised shelter and be able to wrap up in the space blanket inside it. I would have a fire and five liters of treated water, with salt to aid re-hydration in Brazil’s extreme heat. The signals group allows for some sort of signal capability, active and passive with sight and sound, day or night. If I had to walk out I would have a compass and foot care. I chose the Ibuprofen, as it is both a painkiller and anti-inflammatory. I believe the items in this kit will aid in actual survival and are not there just because they are nifty and small.
The other item that I always have belted on at all times is a US Army canteen with steel cup and stove sleeve. The pouch on the canteen carries two bottles of Potable Aqua, a yellow mini-bic lighter, and a small foil packet of KMnO4 as a back-up water purification system. Most of the time I also have my Recta DP-2 compass and a bottle of Bens 100 in a pocket along with some snack food items.
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Mac
very very very COOL
Very nice. I have the Bk air crew knife (5& half inch blade) Very sturdy knife.
I have seen the Bk knives refinished in Blaze orange, hard to loose the knife that way.
-Sam
Nice. Thanks for the pics too. It's a well thought and experienced set-up.
Pict, love your set-up, and great pics.
Like most great products it would seem that the BK-7 knife is no longer available.
http://www.survivaltopics.com/surviv...r-bk7-knife/:(
It is available. They are now made by KaBar. Here is a link to one. There are other places that have them in stock...
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/st...l.html?s=KABK7
Yep! My knife guy has them on order. He's got both neckers, companion, and the entry tool. I've heard that they won't be making the camp knife though.
Wow that's quite impressive. IT must have taken a lot of planning and experience to come up with those few and totally necessasry items!
YOU have to love the Kabar!Quote:
Originally Posted by FVR
I have been out camping with someone who had one of these before. It seemed to work a lot better than I thought but still it can't hold up against a good survival knife. But yeah if someone is on a budget or especially needs a backup knife to throw in their backpack before they head out its not bad.
I have a few old sawzaw blades, a bit heftier than hacksaw blades. May just take one to the grinder this week.
Pretty nifty little knife. I like to carry knives in my pack, on my person....basically my thought is, one is good but more is better. I feel the same way with firestarters too!
hey, not too bad. i've since started using small reciprocating saw bladed to make wood-carving knives and gouges.
I used to make these when I was a kid(yes it has been awhile) and my parents would not let me have a knife. we made several and would hide them in the woods next to a river so we could go fishing when we skipped school.
I just made one tonight. Was a bit harder than I thought. Might of helped if I had the right tools for the job though.
Looks pretty neat. I just have one question...
If you lash it to a pole with some string, wouldn't the saw teeth cut the string?
Probably not, since it would be rigid and not moving back and forth (sawing) across your bindings. If you are concerned though, there are several things you can do. When you make one grind a portion of the saw edge so that it is smooth. Attach scales to it (I use duct tape). But, I don't think it would be a problem leaving it alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtdraino
RAT cutlery makes some beautiful blades, as you all likely know.
I was just wondering, do any of you think they will have an RC-7 soon? Of course, I mean after the Izula hype is down, and the RC-5 SERE is out.
I mean, RC-3, RC-4, RC-5 SERE, RC-6 .. what is next an RC-7? Or and RC-2?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Hey, all.
New to this site (great info, BTW) but a veteran knife user/collector.
While we all have a personal preference as to what we like/dislike in a field knife (fixed and folder) I wanted to share some of my "less than stellar" performers over the last 10-15 years.
Please note, this is not intended to bash ANY company/manufacturer's products, just my own experiences.
Fixed blade:
Ontario Spec-Plus Bolo knife (no longer made). Rubber handle, razor sharp out of the box, so-so quality leather and thin cordura sheath. While clearing very light brush the blade chipped after striking a 2-2 1/2 inch green sapling. The chip itself was rather large (half the diameter of a dime and about 3 inches from the tip) and the exposed steel (1095, I think) looked very sintered and grainy. Poor heat treat? Ontario replaced it free of charge (kudos to them). The replacement was no better with similar (but smaller) chipping to the edge.
Buck dive type knife (cannot recall model) but it was copied after a custom maker's design. Full-tang, black plastic scales, kydex sheath. Top of blade featured a chisel type grind (dull) that was about useless. The blunt pointed blade had partial serrations and was very, very difficult to sharpen (Lansky). overall, too beefy and specialized for outdoor applications (at least for me).
Early production CS (Carbon V) Recon Tanto. Loved that darn thing but batoning very seasoned oak (using a small log as the baton, no hammer or hatchet) resulted in a wicked failure; 1 1/2+ inch of the tip snapped clean off! The weather was extremely cold (-5) but still I expected more. I did not contact CS over the matter.
Folders:
Emerson tanto type blade (not sure of the model). Liner lock failed while cutting through frozen garden hose. Luckily I was wearing heavy duty gloves but with the twisting motion I may have somehow disengaged the liner lock but could not figure out how (?).
Gerber Paraframe. While in the closed position I easily nicked my finger while retrieving it from my pocket. Cutouts in the frame was just plain poorly designed.
Buck Odyssy (tip up carry) would open in pocket enough to injure your fingers upon removal.
S&W...owned one, I'll say no more just poor workmanship overall.
Benchmade D2 Griptilian (from Cabela's). Loved this one but experienced blade edge chipping while cutting off the thin aluminum foil on the tops of wine bottles.
Again, not bashing any company just my 0.02 worth with a few of the many knives I've owned/used.
Comments welcomed.
Anything of those knives in the "camping" aisle, wrapped in that plastic stuff. I bought a couple because they were only a dollar each. While they are great to completely wreck on the trail, the screw holding the folding blade to the handle is loose from day one. I made one into a fixed blade by epoxying the crap outta that screw, and the others I had to continually tighten on the trail.
I've carried CS knives for years, while I've never had a problem, the cold COULD have been the contributing factor there. I contacted Mission knives once and spoke with someone (can't remember name) who told me that most knives become very brittle in extreme cold weather. Thus the reason they offer their knives in titanium, which does not have that problem. Just a little FYI.
[QUOTE=Leighman;88983]Early production CS (Carbon V) Recon Tanto. Loved that darn thing but batoning very seasoned oak (using a small log as the baton, no hammer or hatchet) resulted in a wicked failure; 1 1/2+ inch of the tip snapped clean off! The weather was extremely cold (-5) but still I expected more. I did not contact CS over the matter.
I doubt that -5 temp would have caused the steel to fail. -50 might have. Sounds like your knife just had a poorly tempered blade. Although batoning is an excepted practice I am willing to bet that the manufacture does not recommend it.
I can honestly say that I have never subjected a knife to batoning. Grandpa taught me to always use the right tool for the job.
Although batoning is an excepted practice I am willing to bet that the manufacture does not recommend it.
I can honestly say that I have never subjected a knife to batoning. Grandpa taught me to always use the right tool for the job.[/QUOTE]
For any other knife company I'd agree with you. But Cold Steel really prides there knives on the toughness and they say you can return a blade no matter what with a recipt of purchase. I mean they released a vidio, Solid Proof of them beating the crap out of there knives, stabbing through car doors, and all there other tests, adn they show that they hold up great to it. So in this paticular case, with a Cold Steel knife, I don't think that they'd really mind. I am suprised that the Recon Tanto Broke like that though. There must have been some factory error, becuase I've heared nothing but good things about this knife until now.
I have a bunch, use a few especially a SAK and carry a SOG Flash II for "emergencies" but I started making my own several years ago and actually have made better working knives from old saw blades and not that hard to get what you want. I have found the quality of the old name brands going downhill over the years myself.
I'm not a CS "hater" and I used to really like their knives back in the day (early 1980's) when they offered all of 5-6 different products. They were definitely of excellent quality then but IMO, more than a little hype these days.
I've seen all their videos and was not really impressed only because ANY decently made fixed blade (of comparable length/thickness, of course) should be able to pass all of these tests.
Fortunately, there are comparable offerings these days that are superior to many CS products and in a similar price range (RAT Cutlery for example).
[QUOTE=klkak;89013I can honestly say that I have never subjected a knife to batoning. Grandpa taught me to always use the right tool for the job.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, a knife doesn't take the place of an axe/hatchet (and the skill associated with using either).
That said, when I take my 2 children hiking to my favorite "fishing hole" for the day, an axe is not on the list of gear and a small fixed blade is the heaviest item I really want to pack.
To date, a convexed Dumpster Mutt has been worth its weight in gold and is currently my "always" fixed blade outdoor knife.
I have also had VERY good experiences with Ontario's RTAK and RAT Cutlery's RAT-3.