What in the world does squid have to do with.......Oh....Kalahari, not kalamari.
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What in the world does squid have to do with.......Oh....Kalahari, not kalamari.
i personally pack modern, but i pack light (about 11 pounds for a 4-6 day pack currently). don't get me wrong, i'm all for extreme survivalism with ancient technologies and materials, but those types of things are HEAVY. i use ancient tools made with modern methods. i don't have an ipod, dvd player, electronic bug repeller, or any other such nonsense. about the only things that don't have an ancient counterpart are the flashlight and bug spray. bear spray is a gimme, because that's not even funny.
I recently had Alaska Tent and Tarp make me a tarp out of the material they use for the fly on their Arctic Oven tent. It is 10'x10', 2" border and brass grommets. It only weighs about a pound and folds up pretty small and tight. I have been fooling around seeing how many different shelters I can make with it. I've come up with a couple that work well with my cot.
nice to hear. i love the versatility of tarps. i mean i can always make it a tent when i need to, but a manufactured tent makes a poor fly tarp :D
What I really find interesting is that their are some "outdoor" shows on and they say that a foam pad is a must......now maybe when you get a little older ya like that kind of thing..
Have to admit my hips do not take as kindly to the hard ground as they used..but it is not a necessity, is that not why nature supplies nice pine boughs.....or soft grass...ahhhh
But in this man made society we must BUY something to feel comfortable.
Heck if they can sell pine cones and sprigs of cedar at Christmas to the masses, stuff that comes free in nature...... I am sure a foam pad is and easy sell......lmao
Thanks for the welcome and Intro done....probably will add more later..
You know this is a great group....no egos,,,just good fun and advice....
well just kickin back with my two dogs and reading more back posts.....
This may take awhile....
Well, you might be laughing but I don't see a problem with them. You don't have to be old to appreciate them either. Nature has a way of dropping injuries on the old body that makes comfort sort of nice. I don't carry one myself but that's only because I don't want to drop 80-90 for one. I don't go around hacking pine boughs down either. My jaw sort of gets locked a bit when I happen upon a place where someone has butchered a tree. Sort of spoils the beauty for me. Don't have a problem with it if it's a need to situation but I can't see choosing that path for all my camping.
Foam pads are now high tech btw, with specialty foam and covers for it no doubt.. stiffer foam where the body's weight is the heaviest.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonchi
My military cot was free, my most expensive sleeping bag was less than $200 on sale and my sleeping mat I got on sale at "Sportsmans warehouse" for $30. When I leave the woods this stuff leaves with me. Oh and I sleep pretty darn good to.
Oooo Weights, I thought the idea was to cut down on the heavy stuff, Walking about the woods with a pack on is a good workout anyway. :p
"Where to, sir?"
"To the ridge, James. I think I'll camp out tonight."
"Very good, sir. Shall I put the Phantom in four wheel drive?"
"Let's. It's such great fun."
(James pulling chauffeur's hat down tighter) "Oh, thank you, sir. Hold on to your socks, as it were".
Rick, what are you trying to convey with that post?
Luxury in the wilderness? Comfort in the bush? Obviously, I failed. (Saddened, he walked away from the keyboard).
Oh, I thought maybe you were casting aspersions in my direction.
no no rick, that was right on point i think. good show sir. spot of tea?
klkak: you'll have to get used to him, he had a bad fever as a child and the doctors say it's permanent....
I've cast spinners and top water lures. But I've never cast aspersions. I think I looked at them once but they were too expensive for my tastes.:rolleyes:
I kinda like my ATV also. I ain't as young anymore(can't tell by looking) so I kinda like the convenience of having it carry me and my stuff. If I am going more than a few miles into the woods I use it, carry lots of goodies and even sleep on it. The primitive folks can get a mule and load it up if they want but my Rincon is the only way to go when we go up to 60 miles off road. I kinda look at it like a modern day mule.
I kinda like your ATV too Coot, can I have it?
*ever since klkak got lucky with that tomahawk, I can't stop myself, and it looks like I struck out with Rick's handgun, so....*
Canid, I'll have you know people refer to me as touched. You know the good Lord don't touch just anyone. Why, just the other day someone made the comment that I'm not running on all cylinders. How's that for a compliment? Most folks require all of them but not me. I can get by with one less. Lot's of folks have referred to me as special, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canid
Over here we have the luxury of caviar from the sturgeon we catch and fine wine here on the ridge...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Come one, come all to the ridge... we'll manage.
yeah you're a special case allright. but tell me this, can you show me on the doll where you where touched? wait, don't answer that.
Wine in the box, right? It's a multi use item you know.
Can I have a butcher knife?Quote:
Originally Posted by Canid
"You dont have to be crazy to post here... we will train you"
How will I know that I'm all trained up?
It's the old catch 22, klkak. If you know you're trained then you aren't crazy. If you don't know you're trained then you are crazy but you won't know it.
I was hoping you could give me some kind of goal. Like when I hit 500 post or something like that.
no no rick, i tried getting him to catch the .22 but it turns out he's not that crazy yet.
Klkak - See? Your question alone says you just aren't ready, Weedhopper. You still think like an outsider. We have no goals. Goals don't exist when you become one with the forum. Become a part of it. Allow it to control your mind.
OMG, What have I gotten myself into?
Whats that light?
Its so beautiful.
Its beckoning to me.
I must go to it....................ZZZZaaaaapppppp!
ok; you're in. here's your membership hat. that's genuine aluminum.
Good. Now that we got rid of HIM. I'm still a little miffed over that whole tomahawk thing.
Ok! fine! you can have the tomahawk!
I'll go make my own!
Um..., What tomahawk are we talking about anyway?
Um, the foam ground pads are more about insulation than comfort. That whole heat loss through conduction thing and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonchi
And in following good "leave no trace" ethics, you may not always be able to find that "comfy" natural padding laying around on the ground, or grass where you're going to stop at for the night.
The tomahawk in the "homemade tomahawk" thread.You asked,he said yes:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by klkak
Nell, I know. It was a lame attempt at being funny.
personally and no offense to you but i see your view as one sided. yes there are alot of niceties they brought BUT everyones definition of camping is different. i mean it is one thing to go out in the woods with your buddies to camp and bs but it is another completely to go survival camping. your disapproval of their "camping" gear may discourage them from going out and enjoying the wilderness. next time why not issue a challenge to see if they can make it a weekend with bare necessities and explain it a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitch.chesney
yeah alpine i have to agree. much as i like my zero degree bag, i couldn't sleep on snow in it alone, on the other hand, in 25f. or colder conditions i could easily sleep on the ridgerest pad with a $12 kmart bag, barring high wind chill. it weighs half a pound or so and it's worth it to me. it also insulates a person from runoff to a reasonable extent, which helped me out in the hoh rainforest.
i prefer my hammock, but when i tried to sleep in that in winter '04 in Payette NF i almost lost my tender-bits. that night was -20f with the wind and i would have liked to have had it at the time.
i like to have options, even if i can usually leave them at home.
Joining is belonging. Pass the kool-aid. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Sam knows. He and the forum are one.
Canid - Which Ridge Rest do you use? The Deluxe or the Regular. I've held off on buying one because I don't want to drop a sawbuck on a pad but the Ridge Rest is half that price. I was just wondering which you use and how well you like it.