Hey....that's how I feel about my other half!
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And yet another vacancy looms on the horizon.
It's great to read about your experience and knowledge about these rucksacks. I own a cheap, simple (and I think it is unknown at the overseas) Quechua rucksack for my day trips. It's just 30l and I can carry what I need. Safety is the highest priority of course. She has a built-in rain cover and I have an old UK military poncho in it for my safety. Certainly I am just a beginner thus I feel this gear is totally enough for me at the moment.
What is your opinion about the backpacks of the Macpac and the Osprey brand. As far as I know there is an ex soldier who uses the Macpac Cascade 90FL for his adventures. (Ed Stafford ex British army captain.)
The following page will be Hungarian but there are two pictures about theoretically military packs. Do you know something about these rucksacks? Are they really military stuff? Here is the link. I am just curious. I would like to order one. Any comments?
What's the weight of a medium alice pack unloaded? I certainly like the price, and the fact that so many have put it through the paces and found it functional.
I don't have an empty one to weigh for you so all I can do is give you a SWAG. Someone chime in if you think I'm off.
I'd guess the medium pack at about 3 pounds. With Frame closer to 6. It will also depend on which version you get. The old cotton canvas were pretty heavy, around 5 pounds or so. The nylon ones that came out in the early 60's dropped a couple of pounds.
Are the Alice packs pretty comfortable to wear without the frame? Say for a hunting/hiking daypack. Is there a spot in there to put a bladder?
Med ALICE is 5.8 lbs and 2350 cubic inches.
Durable, proven, cheap, and I'm used to the system.
It does have the aluminum brace for a frame yes its very comfy even with a 40-50 lb load.
Hello,
Any response for my questions? I'd like to buy the military backpack in December.
Cheers,
Tom
Winter - Is that with the frame?
Tom - The packs you listed are not U.S. military packs. Whether they are use by a European country is not something I would know. We have plenty of commercial packs like that here in the States. It depends on the brand name as to whether you are getting a quality pack.
The Alice pack is prolific throughout the world since so many of them were made and so many used by other countries. You should be able to pick one up in Europe at a decent price. I don't think you'll be disappointed with it.
Midwayusa.com has army surplus alice packs for what seem like a pretty good deal. 34.99 for a medium and 39.99 for a large. They come with the frame. Are these good ones?
The large is on sale for $29.99 but they are currently out of stock. They look like the real deal to me but the large one isn't a very good picture.
I also vote for a medium ALICE. I've been using one since 1970, so I know exactly where all my gear will go. I find it fits me well with the frame. I use it for canoeing, backpacking, etc...
The medium ALICE pack (without the frame) is $75.59 here.
The MOLLE 30l pack is $35.57.
According to the information from the store they are not waterproof.
It's a funny part of the world.
A quick check of Google indicates you may be looking at the same pack you posted. Not a true Molle pack. Here's a pic of the true Molle Rucksack. You aren't going to pick it up for $35.00.
http://www.armygear.net/armygear/ima...packdes-lg.jpg
You probably want to stay away from the Molle 3-Day assault pack since the should straps a pretty thin.
http://www.2wsurplus.com/media/catal...sault-pack.jpg
You are definitely right, Rick.
Sorry for the confusion, I'm a beginner but I would like to fit into the community quickly.
Now I see what I have found is a fake military backpack.
I have one very similar to the one you posted and it's a good day pack. I could probably get by with it for a few days but I have more comfortable packs that I prefer.
Translation For more information:
Tactical Backpack
Color: Green
Capacity: approx. 30 l Material: pearl screen size: 22x45x30 cm. backrest padded backrest behind the camel bag (ivzsk) pocket (2-liter fit in), padded shoulder straps with adjustable waist strap accessories be fixed outside of a piece. large aperture, size: 45x22x10 cm 1pc. large aperture, size 40x20x5 cm. 1. middle compartment size: 16x25x5 cm. 1 small compartment size: 17x13x5 cm
Good translation, Beans, thank you!
I use a simple one-day hiking pack in my daily life. It seems to be a children's toy compared with the military backpacks but it is better in the office. :)
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