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Well lets see here. You could look in the following loading manualsQuote:
Originally Posted by jsummers
1. Speer reloading manual
2. Hornaday reloading manual
3. Hogdons reloading manual
4. Nosler reloading manual
5. Alliant reloading manual
These will give you a good start.
This is a good place to start:
http://www.reloadingroom.com/index_f...%20Special.htm
I don't own any guns now but my favorite was a S & W performance center .357 Model 66 F-comp.
Here is where you can get some reloading info for the .41 special.
http://www.reloadingroom.com/index_f...%20Special.htm
http//findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_mOBQY/is_2_47/ai_68704860
www.sixguns.com/tests/tt41spec.htm
As to the shot shells, I have an old and I mean really old reloading manual from before speer came out with the plastic shot cases for the .357 and the .44mag. it shows loads for the .357 and .44mag using thin wads, #9 shot, a wad on top and a very heavy crimp to hold it all together.
Hope this helps!
thnx Beans & Sarko, I'd checked all "the usual suspects" and had no luck. Like I said I'm beginning re-loading again & haven't any good internet contacts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beans
Question- Shotshells for the .41Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
About the "very heavy crimp" you mentioned. I remember having some .22 ratshot" shells as a youngun that had no plastic capsule or anything for the shot. They had the top part of the brass shell "gathered" up into a point to hold in the shot. Almost like a star crimp that my old MEC shotshell loader made. Is that the kind of "very heavy crimp" you were speaking of ? Are there some kind of mussleloading "wads" avail in .41 or do you make your own ? Thnx for all the info so far.
I like the 357 Magnum as well especially in a heavy steel configuraton.
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That's a nice looking hand gun. How about holstering it for a few minutes and head on over to the Introduction Section and tell us a bit about yourself. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by earlthegoat2
Six months ago i bought a s&w nitegaurd 44 mag. 2 in. barrel and it only weighs 29 oz. I have carried it every day since i got it. I even harvested a 5-point buck with it this nov. You dont want to stand there all day shooting full house 44 rounds it gets a little tough but 44 specials are great.
Question- Shotshells for the .41
About the "very heavy crimp" you mentioned. I remember having some .22 ratshot" shells as a youngun that had no plastic capsule or anything for the shot. They had the top part of the brass shell "gathered" up into a point to hold in the shot. Almost like a star crimp that my old MEC shotshell loader made. Is that the kind of "very heavy crimp" you were speaking of ? Are there some kind of mussleloading "wads" avail in .41 or do you make your own ? Thnx for all the info so far.
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I cut my own wads. the top wad is thin as it only needs to hold the shot in place (under recoil). If you have ever loaded lead bullets and crimped into the crimping groove you will notice how much of the lip of the case is rolled into the groove. You want a tad bit more than that, it has to hold the top wad in place. experiment with your crimping die to adjust it just right.
thnx so much. I'll give it a try. Regular Lg pistol primer or magnum pistol primers ?
I would prefer the .45 Colt (Long Colt) as it can be re loaded with modern propellents as well as the original black powder.
modern cases are stronger than the original balloon headed case and are a bit more efficient.
use regular large pistol primers as this is a much lighter charge and projectile/s weight.
Any big bore revolver can be loaded with black powder loads. It's just a pain to clean up after you shoot.
i'm pretty happy with my XD45. 14 rounds of hollow point sure makes you feel better. H&K MK23, is 1st choice.
Look guys, I have a .45...a Para ordnance p-12 to be exact and I love it but for the woods I would rather have the brute force, flat tajectory, and longer range of the .41 mag. It just makes more sense. I an urban enviroment I would rather have a high capacity .45.
CCW would be Glock 21 or Glock 30.
High powered pistol is the Micro-Galil from Elitefirearms.net 10.5" barrel (http://www.elitefirearms.net/akpistol.html)
Mine is a little different from their standard model (grip, other custom stuff)
Before someone asks, yes, it will accept all AK magazines up to and including the drum.(have two of those)
Sorry in advance if it's not acceptable to post the address.
My personal opinion would have to be a .45 Calibur Glock. Simple to use and clean, and packs a lot of punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodlander1314
Good choice Evion - how about shootin on over to the Introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself. Thanks.
I too have a definite preference for the Mountain Gun models. Mine is a 686+ in .357 Mag. It is an absolute sweetheart to shoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason_Montana
My favorite (Which was my Grandfather's)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSC03087.jpg
Colt SAA, 2nd generation, .357mag
Is he still looking for it? You know, Coot loses pistols all the time. I'm beginning to fear for him something awful. One of these days he going to sit down on the couch and Kaboom!
That colt is a fine piece of machinery, I hope you're not shooting it as it is quite the collector piece.
As to the S&W mountain guns, they are fine purpose built pieces, but the Taurus Titanium Tracker does the same job and won't weigh you down as much.
Thank You.Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
I still shoot it, that is what is was bought for (at least that is what Grandpa used to tell me).
My knock about the woods revolver is normally a Security Six in .357 mag though.
I've owned two Taurus handguns so far. One of them, a 6" .357 Mag was one of the first guns I ever bought. Its build quality left a lot to be desired. It just couldn't hold a candle to a Smith & Wesson or Ruger.Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
The other is a PT-22 in .22LR. It's a cute little gun that is super easy to carry concealed (I can slip it in a front pants pocket and it just disappears) but, it too falls a bit short in the quality arena. Its double-action-only trigger is really heavy and it is the least accurate handgun (regardless of caliber) that I have ever owned. Pretty much it's just a noise maker. I would have sold it too, but it has no marketable value.
I've heard that in the last few years the quality of Taurus products has drastically improved, but these two guns have pretty well soured me toward giving them any more chances.
I'm coming in late to this thread, but I have been shooting .45ACP through a 1945 vintage Ithaca Government Model 1911 ever since 1967 in my misspent youth, and just recently shelved it and bought a new .45ACP Rock Island Armory 1911 Government Model. Now, I am not afraid to use the RIA, scratch it up, run a bunch of rounds through it (assuming I can get ammunition in the post-election ammo frenzy), or let it get some holster wear from concealed carry. The best one is the one that can shoot consistently and feel confortable, I think.
Plinking calls for the .22 Ruger Model 1 SemiAuto or the .22 Ruger Single Six, though!
As to my pet pistol, It is a Ruger Bisley model chambered in .41 Magnum. I've taken deer with it and loaded it with shot to take wood grouse. I'm just partial to the .41 over the .44
Is it mounted on wheels or do you strap it to a tree? I don't like shooting a .357 very much. I can't imagine what a .41 would be like.
I want a .44 revolver, to go with my lever action, but I can't decide if I want a SA or a DA. (And work is too slow to go out and buy both.)
The COUCH ! I haven't looked there yet. Now to decide how to get the wife out for a few hours while I check all couches, recliners etc. I'll bounce the beagle off the things just in case.:sneaky2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Rick, The .357 is a puppy! The .41 in the heavy Bisley frame is a little stout but quite manageable.
2dumb2kwit, I would go with a single action Ruger, tough as nails and very little to go wrong with it. Check out both the standard single action and the Bisley model to see which fits your hands better.
Normally pack a Springfield 1911 for the street. The .44 mag for the woods goes very nice with the marlin lever in the same caliber
I carried a 4 inch S&W Model 57 on my Alaska hunt. I had it loaded with Buffalo Bore 230 grain LSWC that brought it up into the mid range of the .44 mag ballistics. The gun was loaned to me for the trip, but I bought a decent chest holster for it and now really, really want to buy a gun that fits it.
The .41 is an odd caliber. Nothing wrong with it at all but it needs a dedicated hand loader to get the most from it. Factory loads can be hard to come buy and while there are some great loads out there in factory ammo finding them on the shelf in any given shop could be problematic. I have a friend who is a .41 addict who has a 175 grain load that brings the magnum down to "special" velocities and is a real pleasure to shoot.
That is one of the best features of a wheelgun IMO is that you have the .38/.357 or .44 Special/Magnum power range to choose from. With the .41 you have to come up with your own downloaded ammo as there never was a .41 Special round (other than some customs out there).
The big magnums don't have to be loaded to howitzer levels to be effective, especially for self defense. The .44 Special lead HP is plenty of gun in a fight. Mac
Ruger SP101 for woods.
I agree with Sarky, my .357 Taurus is stainless steel and is a pleasure to shoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
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That is why I took up reloading. The .41 mag was my first centerfire handgun and ammo was and still is tough to come by. I also cast my own bullets for .22, .308, .357, 9mm, .40, .410, .45, and.50 miniballs. Also the .41 special is comming on strong and may soon be a comercial round.
I hadn't thought about the Bisley model "fitting" different. Thanks for bringing that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SARKY
I'm hoping to find someone who has one, so I can shoot a few rounds through it, before buying anything.
I have been able to shoot a redhawk, a super redhawk, a S&W 686, and a Colt anaconda. The Colt was sweet, but that's not really a fair comparison. It had a ported barrel, trigger work, etc.
From what I have shot, so far, I'm liking the 686 mountain gun.
The Bisley model has a frame/grip shaped more like a double action, ie your hand sits higher up on the frame.
You might want to look into the Taurus Tracker series of double actions. They a stainless (no more Titanium) and ported barrels. They feel very much like a S&W
It's funny that you said that. A friend of mine has been saying that he's going to get a Taurus Tracker. I've been kinda waiting for him to get one, so I can try it out. LOL:innocent:
Oops.....I was typing S&W 686......I meant 629.:blushing: