Cabin broken into by thief!!!

Marcraft? Boy, you been inhaling some of them fumes you're talking about? Give your head a shake.

Thanks Sarge!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by nell67

Thanks Sarge!!!!!!

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Does he really have an Anarchist cookbook site?:confused::eek::cool:

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

Does he really have an Anarchist cookbook site?:confused::eek::cool:

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About a year or so ago,he posted that he was a member of such a site.

About 2:30 am I remembered a Popular Mechanics magazine article from the 60's that had plans for a cabin. The cabin could be closed up to discourage break-ins. The one neat idea was, the front deck was on hinges and could be closed against the cabin front to block the door and windows.

If you had mountain property you could go with the draw bridge. A battery operated garage door opener arrangement.

The more elaborate your plans for defense the more elaborate their plans for entry until they succeed.
Dissimulation, don't show what you got, misdirect to what you want them to take that is of no consequence.

The last person that said ban me,got exactly what they asked for.

What we are saying is,there is no need for posting recipes to create things to kill another human being. There is no need for stuff like that to be posted.
We are not saying it ok to do what these people have done,taking a life because YOUR life is in danger is one thing,but it is nothing short of murder to kill someone because they broke into an unoccupied cabin,even if you are not there to actually "pull the trigger".

marcraft, you really should step back and read your posts, you have an extreme perception of reality and what you think is reality.
People are trying to help you but you seem bent on instigating to get a reaction.

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Originally Posted by marcraft

you forget the only thing that seperates people from animals is the rules they follow. people loose the right to be people when they start breaking the rules of society and causing damage and danger to others

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Um first off, I'm not forgetting that, I'm just not agreeing with it in the first place, there's a lot more than a set of rules that seperates us from animals, plus I can think of a number of animals who, in group conditions, treat one another more civilly than most people do, but that's a different conversation.

Second...people loose (lose?) the right to be people because of causing damage? So, you're suggesting we place a higher value on material possessions than on human life? Give your head a shake, see what rattles ok?

Also, I didn't see anyone in here suggesting that people have the right to do whatever they want without consequences. Wherever you read that must have been so depressing for you that you forgot where you were or something.

When I recall some of your original posts compared to some of this crap that you occassionally come up with, I actually wonder if it's the same person. People are suggesting that you dial down the extremism, I'd suggest it's gonna make life a whole lot easier for you if you do, but he!! it's your call.

My Pop stated in another thread that ignorance isn't an excuse for stupidity, well in this case, neither is youthfulness.

Wut up dawg? This doesn't sound like you. You haven't been around for awhile, has something happened that brought about this change? :confused: C'mon man, you'e one of the original Wolves.:cool:

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Originally Posted by marcraft

ahh f********k your right trax. well ALOT of **** happened that isnt really an excuse but since you seem to give a d**n ill tell you. start it off i was arrested and put in juvi (macdonalds youth in winnipeg) for pulling my knife out when my dad charged at me (he has broken my bones before) . and after i was there for a couple weeks talking with a psychologist i was put into the MMIT or whatever its called , plastic room , meals in plastic trays, whole shebang. then after a week of convincing psychiatrists they let me out, and i come home to be called a failure , said i disgust them, said ill never amount to anything, whole bunch of **** by my family. with my younger brother trying to convince my parents to have me disowned the entire time. and now most of my camping stuff is gone, my parents gave away my dog while i was away, so you can imagine im pi**ed with them , well today i screamed my head off and i might not have a place to live tomorrow (and let me mention i do go to school even after all the **** that happened in middle school to give me PTSD, and have never touched an illicit drug, been in a fight, or had sex , which seems to be all anyone in highschool cares about) which means my only option is to drop out of school and work some **** service job or live in a group home.

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Some of us went down that road and it didn't turn out so bad. Be patient and do what you know is right. Things will work out in the long run. I'll be praying for you.

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Originally Posted by marcraft

ahh f*******k your right trax. well ALOT of **** happened that isnt really an excuse but since you seem to give a d**n ill tell you. start it off i was arrested and put in juvi (macdonalds youth in winnipeg) for pulling my knife out when my dad charged at me (he has broken my bones before) . and after i was there for a couple weeks talking with a psychologist i was put into the MMIT or whatever its called , plastic room , meals in plastic trays, whole shebang. then after a week of convincing psychiatrists they let me out, and i come home to be called a failure , said i disgust them, said ill never amount to anything, whole bunch of **** by my family. with my younger brother trying to convince my parents to have me disowned the entire time. and now most of my camping stuff is gone, my parents gave away my dog while i was away, so you can imagine im pi**ed with them , well today i screamed my head off and i might not have a place to live tomorrow (and let me mention i do go to school even after all the **** that happened in middle school to give me PTSD, and have never touched an illicit drug, been in a fight, or had sex , which seems to be all anyone in high school cares about) which means my only option is to drop out of school and work some **** service job or live in a group home.

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See, I knew something nasty had happened. Listen up; we do care about you here. Bad stuff is going to happen, you just can't help it at times. You just don't let that control you, you control it. The Wolf Pack looks out after their own, right? You let go of the negative crap & you finish your education, get a good job, get out on your own, & buy all new camping stuff along with another dog, or whatever. Just hang in there, we've all gone through some crap in our lives, so we're all here for you, okay?:confused::cool:

There Is Nothing worse than A thief.

A thief was caught on one of the subs I was on. He went to Captains Mast (Article 15). The Captain said I know you're the thief and now the entire crew knows you're the thief. I will transfer you to another submarine at the end of this deployment. I am not going to bust you (reduction in paygrade) because the he** you will go through for the next four months will be punishment enough. He turned out to be very clumsy.....kept falling UP ladders. His next command mysteriously found out about his past habits. His clumsiness continued.

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Originally Posted by Runs With Beer

There Is Nothing worse than A thief.

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I could think of a few things worse than a thief,neglectful/abusive parents,rapists,murderers,for a start.

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Originally Posted by Runs With Beer

There Is Nothing worse than A thief.

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While I will never defend the actions of a thief (unless it was a true life or death situation, like steal some food or you or your family will die) I have to say that there are worse people than thieves. With the disgusting child molesters and such in this world, a simple thief is actually something most of us could deal with (not that it's right).

(a lot of good posts here)

Okay, so should I make my own waterproof bury container out of PVC pipe, or can I buy a worthy waterproof container somewhere?

P.s. A 55 gal drum is too difficult to bury. I prefer several small containers.

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Originally Posted by catfish10101

While I will never defend the actions of a thief (unless it was a true life or death situation, like steal some food or you or your family will die) I have to say that there are worse people than thieves. With the disgusting child molesters and such in this world, a simple thief is actually something most of us could deal with (not that it's right).

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I stand corrected, But I still Hate a thief. My house was broken into and they took things I will never get back.

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Originally Posted by kx250kev

(a lot of good posts here)

Okay, so should I make my own waterproof bury container out of PVC pipe, or can I buy a worthy waterproof container somewhere?

P.s. A 55 gal drum is too difficult to bury. I prefer several small containers.

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Large diameter PVC pipe with threaded ends will work. Bragg had posted some pics of how he did it between the D&G posts. You can also use barrels smaller than 55 gallons. I bought a couple of 55 gal barrels last month and noticed they had quite a few different sizes available. The 30 gal ones seemed pretty compact.

Post #15 of this thread has a pic he posted. He did not use threaded ends as I said in my other response, but imagine that they should work (with o-ring).

Marcraft, I'm sending you a pm. respond to it.

A trail cam sounds like a good idea. Haha... A few days ago, some people stole my running shoes (no big deal because I had another pair stashed in another locker), from my PE locker because it doesn't always lock that well, and I thought of putting a trail cam in my locker to see if they would come back. The next day I found my shoes back in my locker for some reason. But I think it sounds like a good idea. Go for it :]

My place in the woods was broken in to a few years ago. Didnt take a whole lot, just a few odds and ends, tools, some pistol bullets and an old 22 rifle.................

Of course the police were called, but no fingerprints, and no serial numbers on the rifle.(made before they were required)

Ok.............My place is in the woods alibet on 10 acres with other house scattered around.............I was able to track the thief home............(never mess with an experienced deer hunter)

I wont go into the details but I have had my revenge on the thief..............

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Originally Posted by A190

My place in the woods was broken in to a few years ago. Didnt take a whole lot, just a few odds and ends, tools, some pistol bullets and an old 22 rifle.................

Of course the police were called, but no fingerprints, and no serial numbers on the rifle.(made before they were required)

Ok.............My place is in the woods alibet on 10 acres with other house scattered around.............I was able to track the thief home............(never mess with an experienced deer hunter)

I wont go into the details but I have had my revenge on the thief..............

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Good for you!!!!:D:D What? No pictures:eek::D

I have a mental picture of a thief, field dressed, hanging in a apple tree.

.....or him doing an immitation of a lollypop with an old 22 rifle as the stick.

Nope, saw cut on his deer stand= a broken leg.
Nails and glass on his four wheeler trail
wind up alarm clocks around his dog pen set to go off in the earl y morning

road kill just dumped in his drive.................

What?!

No:
salt in the lawn?
junkmail subscribtions?
"single's" newspaper advertisement?
"For Sale" advertisements?

and the old but hilarious paper bag full of poo on fire?

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Originally Posted by RangerXanatos

What?!

No:
salt in the lawn?
junkmail subscribtions?
"single's" newspaper advertisement?
"For Sale" advertisements?

and the old but hilarious paper bag full of poo on fire?

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Nah. that seemed to sedentary,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:D

Thing a friend of mine did after his cabin got broken into was placed a fake security camera outside of the front door that was battery powered with a blinking red light. I think the battery lasted around 180 days before you had to replace the batteries. I am sure if you look around on security websites you might be able to come up with a few ideas.

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Originally Posted by A190

Nope, saw cut on his deer stand= a broken leg.
Nails and glass on his four wheeler trail
wind up alarm clocks around his dog pen set to go off in the earl y morning

road kill just dumped in his drive.................

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Wait a minute A190...you said you "wouldn't go into the details"...;)

Sarge - Move to General Survival Discussion

That's pretty crappy...of course it's better to find out now than to show up in the middle of a SHTF situation and find out then...

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Originally Posted by chazlawyer

That's pretty crappy...of course it's better to find out now than to show up in the middle of a SHTF situation and find out then...

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Read the date.....it happened last year.:eek:

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Originally Posted by kx250kev

I'm now thinking about "security" plans (but the cabin has no electricity).

Any ideas for security? One of my thoughts is trail cams to capture them on camera.

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Don't store your cache in your cabin. Put everything in Rubbermaid rubs and seam-seal them with silicon sealant. Bury them a couple feet underground where you can find them (next to a permanent landmark like a rock outcropping) but no signs of burial will be noticeable by others. The cabin, therefor, will simply be an empty cabin. Unless it's a nice cabin and not a 'deercamp cabin', I think that'll do ya.

Try a hidden room, under groung bunker? Remember, out of sight, out of mind!
If they can't see it, they can't take it.....

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Originally Posted by trax

that's crappy news partner, but yeah they're out there. You have to look at how they got in I suppose and make it harder (of course if they want in bad enough.....) Thieves will generally go for the easiest target, so if you make it harder for a thief to get in, they might go somewhere else.Trail cams are good for after the fact, but once you've been ripped off, having their picture might not do you a lot of good. I'm imagining your pictures sitting on the bottom of a manila folder in some cop's desk....

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I have a new river cabin being built right now in Bella Coola BC Canada. I just bought the land & because my wife & daughter have no interest in it, I'd like to find others to join me. It's river accessed only & my guys there, 3K miles from where I live, said locking it up would be a waste of time. As I said, you can't get to it except by boat, but that probably wouldn't stome anyone wanting to still general camp stuff. I also take my guns back home when I leave. Mike

You live 3,000 miles from your cabin? Get there often?

Only by boat.

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Originally Posted by trax

, but once you've been ripped off, having their picture might not do you a lot of good. I'm imagining your pictures sitting on the bottom of a manila folder in some cop's desk....

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Trax has got it right! Sorry to hear about your loss. I know how you feel!! My wife's jeep got broke into sometime back. They stole one of my handguns in the robbery and what caught them on the burglary is a couple of them tried to use the weapon in an armed robbery of a convinence store. They broke under questioning and told the police who else was involved in the string (50) of vehicle burglaries. At first the local DA wasn't going to procecute them because they are all under 18. BUT after some good advise here, and some threats, blackmail and pressure from me and most of the other victims after I called...:innocent:Er... I mean SOMEONE called the other people and told them the cops caught the punks and the DA wasn't going to do anything because of their age. Well let's just say...... I hope they catch the scumbags who robbed you. IF they do keep on the cops and make sure they do their job!!!