Sarge - do I see a new sticky coming???? RV Numpty's!
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Sarge - do I see a new sticky coming???? RV Numpty's!
@cntrybo2: A question on how will you be carrying these bottles? In your hand, are you making a shoulder strap?
Sounds like a good program for Discovery Channel to run, doesn't it! Survivor Yuppies!:D:rolleyes::eek::cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
It would probably be better than half of the k rap on TV now.
We will be carrying them by hand, i could think of a multitude of things to do with a carrying strap.Quote:
cntrybo2: A question on how will you be carrying these bottles? In your hand, are you making a shoulder strap?
to address some of the other previous questions, i think i will pack 2 70-gal. trash bags as well. I found some this evening that are very thin and i can compact them down together to a size smaller than a tennis ball. As for Sarge holding the B.S.A. comment against me, so be it, i believe we are all entitled to our own opinions right gentlemen! honestly though, my experience with the boy scouts in my area (and this is all i can comment on is personal experience) is they are just the boys that need a father figure in their life. The troops are weak, spineless boys being lead by weak fathers who are just doing it to feel good about themselves. I know this isnt par for the course but just my experience. thanks for all the info fellas, KEEP IT COMING PLEASE!!!
also, gave some thought on how to bring duct-tape, i think this would be useful to patch any holes in waterproofing material for shelter or boots, protect any wounds etc. I am thinking of coating my bottle with neat wraps of it, so that i can pay it off of the bottle and it is in useable form. thoughts?
Lots of ways to carry duct tape
Wrap around outside of bottle
Small lengths rolled on itself (or folded)
wrapped around credit card in wallet
I like to carry a few nails in my kit (making gigs, etc) wrap tape around nail
wrap around a pen (oh yeah bringing pen and paper a good idea)
it sounds as if you have a good bit of outdoor experience as well as some leadership skill. maybe instead of being critical of what i find to be one of the last remaining great programs designed to grow those boys who need a father figure into strong leaders and men of which america can be proud of (unlike the politicians and leader today) you should volunteer to be a scout leader that can teach these boys something. you don't have to have a son involved to be a volunteer. also think of what you could teach a group of boy scouts on this weekend you have planed about woods skills and survival.Quote:
Originally Posted by cntrybo2
as to your question of what to bring. check out these two sites. ive used a combintation of the two (adding some things and taking some out)
www.m4040.com
and
www.survivalandoutdoorsafety.com
my whole survival kit will fit in a nalgene bottle less my cold steel srk knife.
also what sarge said about the cup was good stuff. you might also think about some tin foil and 100lb test powerpro fish line. you can pack a tone in a small space.
best of luck.
The book I mentioned by Cody Lundin tells, among other things, a cool way of using both para-cord and duct tape with your Nalgene Bottle. You might want to look up Rick's review of the book, it's very good. BTW, we've got many "Scouters" here on this site, including Rick. I firmly believe that the scouts today are only a shadow of what they once were; (see my thread: "The Way Of The Scout".) However, that's where people like us can make the difference. Rick teaches his Scouts Survival skills as does many others here. Smok has decided to "step up to the plate" and help out. You never really appreciate life until you find how you can impact others, sort of takes the focus off of yourself.
We all can make a difference if we try. That being said, I'll try & locateRick's review of Cody's "98.6 Degrees...". It's an excellent read.:cool:
Thanks Sam, I keep forgetting about those!:D
Okay Country Boy, here's the link to Rick's Review:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1168
Not only did I e-mail Cody about his book, he answered back and even answered a question that Rick had, so I'm including that thread as well as I think Cody's e-mail might be of interest to you in your upcoming adventure. Remember, this man is considered to be one of the top Survival instructors & Author's alive today.
I hope it helps.:cool:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1162
Enjoy!
thanks for the links to the book review. i think i will have to go and pick up a copy.
cntryboy - You can fashion a small loop of paracord to your Nalgene with duct tape. Just fold it in half so you have a loop sticking up and then wrap the tape around the bottle. I use it to clip a bottle to my pack, to hang a bottle next to my bedroll, or as Cody suggested to lower the bottle into tight spaces to scoop up water.
If you fill your bottle with cash you could spend the time at your local Starbucks. OK OK part of your time. Most of your time if you fill it with big bills and or gold bullion!
One nalgene bottle. My only thought is where is the coffee? I mean; even instant would work in a pinch!
I have done the, only what is in your pocket. Coffee singles or packs of instant coffee work. The bacon needs to be double X triple wrapped. Cook in a foil pack and use the foil to make coffee after the bacon is done.
No bacon and no coffee? I'm not going! I wonder how many Spam singles you can get in a nalgene bottle?
Don
uhmmm... baconated coffee...
*drools
Nitrites and caffeine.....uhmmmmmm.
See, there I was not holding anything against you until you said that. Weak spineless boys? I've never been a scout, I lasted about half of one meeting and got the boot, but those weak spineless boys could be out boostin' yer f***ng car...they're not. Those weak fathers could be down at the bowling alley suckin' down a few cold ones and bowling a few frames, they're taking time to teach these kids or at least spend some time with them, instead. Think these kids were sprung into the world and the first words out of their mouths were, "gee I hope I can struggle through the first ten years of my life without a positive male role model, I've always wanted to grow up to be an azzhole!"Quote:
Originally Posted by cntrybo2
I never condemned your plan to go spanking off with your wide mouthed bottle because I read your intro and said to myself "this guy seems to know his **** in the bush, who am I to criticize? It's only a weekender." I wouldn't do it, but fill yer boots. In fact, with all that experience, maybe you should think about sharing it with some youngsters, they could use your help.
Trax, man, you make good sense! point taken and your right, i apologise.
I do a little "moonlighting" by writing about travel health at a travel blog called Gadling.com.
A few weeks ago I wrote a post on this very subject, just thought it might be of interest. Here's the link:
http://www.gadling.com/2008/01/11/tr...-for-the-road/
This kit is not intended for serious off-road travel or being in a remote location. It is a pretty decent kit for general first-aid only.
Nice post, AD!!
Takes an adult to step up, bro but,I'd rather you gave some consideration to sharing your knowledge maybe with some area youngsters than apologizing to me or anyone here. I've got rhinoceros hide, lol, but you got some skills there no doubt. A big part of my job involves working with youth who have been in trouble or are "at risk" and my big push is always get 'em outdoors. If they don't learn anything at least by the time they get back they're usually too tired to go out raising hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by cntrybo2
OK here is a question for you guys! I have never made one but have seen them cited in many survival publications THE "SQUIRREL POLE". I have used snares before to trap game but have never this method. To those that may know it by another name, this is a long branch (usually 4-6' long) that is approximately 2-3'' in diameter. A series of snares is placed along this branch and leaned against a nut bearing or "squirrely" tree. The thought behind this is that a squirrel would sooner climb the pole on a 45 degree angle rather than straight up the trunk of the tree. This is pitched as a multiple fatality trap (trap more than one per setting). Has anyone used this set before? did it work? Are there any tips?
Here's a link to what you described.
http://www.m4040.com/Survival/Skills...el%20Snare.htm
Squirrels are just curious. They'll investigate anything new. If you prop the pole against a tree they will have to investigate it. That's when you snare them. They are quite effective and you can just about be gauranteed of a catch if you find a tree that a squirrel is actively working. Squirrels will most active early morning and late afternoon so you want to check the snare at least twice a day or a fox of other carnivore might help themselves to your dinner. Bon Appetit!
You can also use a rabbit pole to catch rabbits. The pole is four or five feet long about 1 1/2 inches around. Split one end about four inches and insert a small twig just to keep the ends of the split pole open. Since most rabbits won't run down a hole very far you can usually shine a light down the hole and see the rabbit. With your light still on the rabbit, slide the pole down the hole until the split end of the pole slides underneath the hair of the hare. Then start slowly turning the pole. The split end of the pole with catch the fur of the rabbit and twist it so the rabbit can't run. Just slide the pole and rabbit out of the hole and you'll have dinner on the hook so to speak. Be advised, rabbits can scream and bite.
the screaming and biting or the stick twirling? whohooo married life!
@cntrybo2: have you completed your list yet? Can we see what you have put together and what you learned from it?
......and did you do your weekend outing yet? If so, how did it go?
OK fellas, we havent done the trip yet, we are shooting for a weekend in the latter part of May due to water temps in the area (no need to add hypothermia to the equation). As far as my current list goes, it is as follows:
12 - 20'' snares (this is enough for 3 squirrel poles and 3 random settings)
2 - 70gal trash bags
1- 25' section of paracord
1- small box of strike anywhere matches w/ heads dipped in wax to waterproof
1- lighter
10- small fishing hooks
150' 12lb test fishing line (when combined with the fishing hooks this will be enough line to make a trot line as well as a cane pole to pass the time and remain mobile)
Being that i carry a leatherman supertool with me daily i will have this luxury. we have agreed that one is allowed to carry either two knives or one multitool.
Lets here the feed back!!! what do you guys think drop anything? add something?
Something for water purification tablets or a container to boil it in (cup that fits on base of bottle or tin foil) - first aid supplies - whistle - small flashlight - don't know how cool it gets at night where you're going...just something to consider.
I have to agree with some way to treat water. I'd also throw in a space blanket. Hypothermia can easily occur in 50-60F temps particularly if water is involved. Fall in the creek or a night time rain could be very uncomfortable or deadly.
as far as water purification goes, we are bringing a water filter, this is noted in earlier posts. as for the space blanket, i have to agree with Remy, climb into a 70gal space blanket covered with pine boughs and leaves and you will find quickly that your body heat will definately work to aid its self in heating you up!
if you considered the two knife then you could put in a leatherman squirt and have the best of all worlds. its small but it still works prety good for moving hot items in and out of the fire while providing an extra small knife blade and a few other tools.
may consider adding some 100lb test fishing line. packs very small and can be used for many things that you may not want to use your cordage for. also plenty strong for setting a trout line in a stream or sewing up torn equipment or torn flesh. (make sure you have some kind of needle.)
a few luxury items might be nice i.e. bullion, hard candy, tea, a couple of packets of propel for electrolights ect.
- magnesium flint bar
-possibly a few exacto razor blades
ok, my buddy mentioned he was bringing razor blades because he had been recommended to by someone else. What are your reasons for razor blades?
Razor blade have lots of uses, Basicaly a small knife, They can be used as a scalpel for first aid is one use that they do well, But there are lots moreQuote:
Originally Posted by cntrybo2
a few ideas of mine would be lashing to a stick for a handle and you would have a small very sharp knife for small camp chores, cleaning fish/small game. you could also use them as scalpel as tony yuk pointed out. i thought that you could probably attach to a stick and create a fishing spear, especially if you put a sling shot band in that bottle. now you would have a hawiian spear. plus with the size of them you could add a few and not even know they were in there until you needed them. just a few off the top of my head.
about the idea of the sling shot band, they are cheap around 2.50 and have some different uses, i.e. turnuquit (spelling?), sling shot for small game, hawiian spear, if needed for some reason, could dismantle and make one length of tubing for a staw.
neccesity is the mother of invention and if you have something that already has a few uses and an unforseable need arises you may be able to improvise your need with what extras you have.
Sorry, gang. You won't find a razor blade in my stuff. Too much chance of a severe injury for the benefit in my book. Just picking the stupid things up poses a risk. Sorry, not for me.
i can appreciate ya'lls thought but i am with Rick, if you as even look at a razor blade wrong it seems it will cut you. I will stick with a sharp knife WITH A HANDLE anyday!
I agree with not carrying razor blades under normal wilderness conditions. Besides, I usually have enough knives with me to share with the neighborhood.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking 'em. They just aren't for me. I keep my knives sharp but you won't shave with them for the same reason. I just don't need them to be that sharp. I carry a pocket knife, a folder on my belt, my straight blade and there's a multi-tool in my pack. If I loose all of those I guess I'll just have to learn how to craft a knife out of shale or sandrock or some other nice crumbly stone.:p
if you lose those, you need to learn to take better care of your equipment!:D
Or better care of me!;)