You could always shoot the transmission...........at 400 yards.
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You could always shoot the transmission...........at 400 yards.
My .22, a Marlin XT-22 shoots more accurately with Eley and CCI than any other ammo. Eley is expensive stuff, but it will shoot good in almost any rifle. Note I said almost! Some .22 rifles are very picky about their ammo, so nothing is a sure thing, but with a new .22, I would start out with CCI, Eley, and Winchester. Normally one of those will shoot well in many different rifles.
My .22lr punches paper at that range all the time. And, with all due respect to you, friend, it would only have to punch the tiniest of holes in an inflated balloon. Even a paperwad can do that.
My real point, however, has to do with your cavalier disrespect of Californians. As a Californian (albeit transplanted from Alabama in 1988) I offered you a distinct challenge that you attempted to "straw-man" into a different subject area.
I am willing to accept that as your refusal to accept the challenge. And that, of course, is commonly interpreted as an admission of error vis-a-vis California and Californians. If such is not your desire, all ya gotta do is "pick up the glove" of my challenge.
Regards to all and enmity to none,
-- Nighteyes
Well I shot a gnat off of a hummingbirds rump at 200 yards in a hurricane with my old Sears and Robuck .22 one time, it must have been a lucky shot:smartass:
And the frog will never even know he was shaved.
Sorry Daniel, the challenge was accepted and accomplished 2 days ago. I had 17 witnesses but I did not get any of their names, however one said he was a cop from two states over and one was a 17 year old x-navy seal, so the results of the test were verified.
It took two shots to zero but after the second shot everyone scattered since the slugs were bouncing off the balloons and scaring everyone as they zinged past us going faster on the way back than on the way out.
And now I have enmity and gauntlets thrown at me from clear across the nation! I am crushed. How will I show my face at the Plantation house after dodging a duel? I'll probably have to run off out west somewhere and hide from my shame.
By the way, did you catch any of the banter between Ohio and Indiannaia over the past two or three days? How about Wildthing and Natertot and Rick and me razzing each other over Ohio, Indiannia, Kentucky and TN? That's sort of what we do here and Kalifornians are the fairest game of all, after all, look where you live. Buttons on your magazine releases, no pistol grips, no hicapacity magazines, lead bullets outlawed, and you people still stay there. I took that as a general indication of a unique sense of humor.
Lighten up Kalifornia dude!
Massachusetts may be the fairest game of all but, yeah, Kalifornia is a reaaaaally close second.
Are you trembling or is the ground shaking again?
I'm trembling for sure. It has to be me, you know how scarce earthquakes are around here.
Well the furthest shot I ever had with a .22lr was with an old Cooey single shot, at optimum angle (national secret) it went and went till it just disappeared into the horizon. I just stood there for awhile waiting to see any results, to my surprise I felt a tap on my left back shoulder, turned and no one was there. At my heels was the spent .22lr bullet covered in dust from it's flight, this was verified by 2 ravens and a magpie. :)
Daniel, your a good man with good words, never told me an untruth.
Well I swan. I never........All the way 'round the world you say? The ravens I'd believe but I've never met a magpie I'd trust very much.
Those Indiana dudes can't hit a bull in the a$$ with a base fiddle:smartass:
That...uh....includes you does it there Mr. Eli Lilly?
You guys are getting a bit frisky for folks that only live a couple of hours apart and have access to public ranges! It is spring and no one is snowed in any more.
You guys could all run over here to KY and use our generous facilities at the local WMA and settle this series of wild accusations. All we have to do is catch a couple of whiskered misquitoes and hairy frogs and we are all set.
I'll bet Rick could shoot a .22 even with a gimpy shoulder.
If we planned an outting for a Friday we could even shoot some trap. Friday night is trap night at the club and nonmembers are welcome.
Right now we have about a 30 MPH wind going on, so that would play heck with the long range .22 shooting but at least it would put folks in their place and give them some perspective. Most of the perspective being a good look at how small an 24 inch gong is at 350 yards. Our club has a ringer set up at that range just to shut people up. If we tried to get a full 400 we would have to park the target against the side of the local day care.
It's amazing how few people at our range claim they can hit teny-tiny targets at what they think is "about that far" when all you have to do is say "there it is, a 2 foot circle at 350, go for it!"
I would much rather test my trapping skills than shooting. I can kill a animal miles away, does that count?
And many acclaimed shooting sports founded, including IPSC, SASS, Western 3-Gun, X-3 Multi-Gun, and more.
I do admit to a certain sensitivity to "attacks" on California (note the correct, adult spelling). I make no apologies for same because of the widespread and rather fallacious stereotypes that are commonly applied to ALL Californians.
I repeat the by-now-friendly challenge. I'll pit myself, my CZ-452 Varmint bolt-action rifle in .22lr, and my 3-10x40mm scope against you and your .22lr equipment. The targets will be approximately 10-inch inflated balloons at 400 yards. He who hits the most balloons in the established (and yet-to-be-determined) time period shall be the winner. I am open to having credible witnesses/judges observe and report on the shoots that occur in two, widely-separated, locations. The loser buys the winner a sumptuous dinner in the restaurant of the winner's choice -- said dinner not to exceed Sixty Dollars ($60.00) including tip.
'Tis put-up-or-shut-up time. Whaddaya say? :devil: :devil: :fisticuffs:
-- Nighteyes
JMPOV. The military has several weapons made to be very accurate at 500 yards and also very effective. Also each year I hear about the long shooters out west and how they hit targets out in the range of 800 and 900 yards. Guess what I'm saying is. If you wanted to hit something out at 500 yards and you had a choice of weapons, would you choose a 22lr? Or even if you didn't have a choice would you use the 22lr? Might want to let the target get a bit closer? 22 ammo is cheap but why waste it? Hiting a target at 500 yards with any 22lr has about the same odds as the lottery Imo. Maybe I just need more practice. Isn't hitting what you're shooting at,with effect the point?
Oldtrap
Perhaps you just don't have the right .22lr/scope combination, bro.
That's exactly the point. Practicing certain aspects of long-distance shooting with a .22lr is a whole heckuva lot cheaper than practicing the same skills with a larger, more powerful (and much more expensive-to-feed) center-fire rifle. I mean, if the wind isn't kicking up, the fact that I can regularly hit a 10-inch balloon at 400 yards with my scoped .22lr speaks very well of my ability to hit targets a good bit farther away with my scoped 5.56mm AR15 or my scoped .308 Savage 10FP.
-- Daniel Nighteyes
Some snipers will tell you that you can learn more about windage and elevation adjustments with a .22 that with any other gun. That is because they dramatize the effects of wind, gravity, and velocity, and it becomes very obvious how the physics of ballistics affect a bullet in flight!
Never met a sniper. They don't tell me anything. I'm not in the "sniper" in crowd I guess.
Hmmmm. All this talk about shooting, I think I may have to make a range trip soon!
You silly. I mean a REAL sniper. Everyone is a sniper, Seal, Special Forces or CIA today. Everyone wins at Vegas, too. I guess I'm the only guy that isn't and don't. I'm probably the guy keeping the lights on in those fancy casinos 'cause the only thing I get money out of is the change machine.
If I hit anything at the range I'm pretty happy. That includes trees, barns and targets. "Long Range" shooting to me is the 25 yard target at the "500 Yard Range".
<---- Not a sniper
I went snipe hunting once.
Oh snap. Been there done that. Took some girls snipe huntin' a time or two but that's a whole 'nuther story.
I used to spend summers hunting ground hogs as a farm kid in southern Ontario,Canada.When I was 14,I made my personal best record shot.The rifle was a Voere .22lr,semi-automatic which could be locked into single shot.The scope was a Tasco 4x and the ammo was a Stinger .22lr hollow point,29 grain.The target was a ground hog,slight downhill shot,very light wind...and it was a standing shot not prone.I aimed about a foot high and caught it square in the side of the head.Now for the good part....Distance: 134 yards.I watched through the scope after I made my shot and the hog was still standing up.I thought I missed,then about 5 seconds later the hog fell over dead.I have to add ...I surprised myself that day.At 50 years old,I am no longer a farmer or a hunter,but I remember that day as if it was yesterday.Safe Hunting Everyone.
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