chop the pole

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Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.

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Originally Posted by teamgreen

Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.

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Not if you live near Sourdough. :innocent:

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Originally Posted by teamgreen

Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.

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I would avoid - like the plague - any so called wilderness survival instructor that would give that advice.

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

I would avoid - like the plague - any so called wilderness survival instructor that would give that advice.

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Because of the criminal liability? Or because of the ensuing forest fire it would cause?

All of that.

And doing so will cause a loss of power. Now, whom will lose power? Maybe the home with somebody relying on a medical device. Maybe a home that is using electric heat (winter) or air (summer). Maybe the traffic signals in a town, possibly causing a wreck. Maybe the gas stations, possibly stranding motorists. Maybe ---- the list goes on and on.

A "wilderness survival" instructor that teaches this probably can't find his way across the street without a gps. How about teaching how to not get lost in the first place? Land navigation? Orienteering? Signaling?

Just a few thoughts.

Here's another thought. I know that tampering with a cell phone tower or equipment shelter is a violation of federal law (Homeland Security). I haven't checked, but I'll bet that applies to telephone and power distribution systems as well.

Anybody who's taken a survival course HAS to know which direction is which :innocent:, and anyone out there should have a good idea of the general location of towns in the area - unless they were kidnapped and blindfolded and dropped off in the middle of nowhere - or something like that. Why not just follow the poles back to town?

http://911wackos.blogspot.com/2008/0...911-about.html

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bKXlng-gpg.../op-laff-2.jpg

"No, I'm sorry. 911 doesn't deliver beer, or cocaine, or pot, or rescue squirrels, or help with homework or pizza, or cook hamburgers."

As a lineman I've got to say that is very bad advice! The chances of you being "lost" near a distribution circuit is slim. The pole you would be hacking down would probably be a transmission pole and the voltage would be at least 34Kv but more likely 115 Kv or 345Kv or higher. That voltage going to ground looks like a bomb going off, whats more, the step voltage could be deadly out for quite a distance. It gets better because dispatch will "shoot" the line after it shows a fault and if you are still in the area you could take another shock. Yeah, you might get found but it might not be in the condition you would like to be found.

And if it happens to be telephone, you could be putting out the very 911 services that would summon a SAR mission to find you. Repair calls are not made until someone reports an outage unless it happens to be a toll or EAS cable. Then the loss of revenue could net you a hefty six figure bill plus prison time for willful destruction. That very cable could feed a hospital, an airport radar system, water telemetry for an entire community or someone talking to a suicide prevention hotline. And you thought we were just about dial tone.

I think your instructor needs instruction.

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Originally Posted by Rick

And you thought we were just about dial tone.

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Noooooo, I think of you more in terms of an annoying phone call. :innocent:

Well, that too.

Phone lines are also bundled with their own messenger and are very tough. There is a good chance that if it was phone and you cut it down it would still work and no crew would be dispatched. Now you are just a lost felon.

That's a very good point. 1/4 inch strand wire generally. All you'd have is a broken pole.

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Originally Posted by teamgreen

Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.

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I guess I would not do this.

My luck would be they would show up, fix the problem, then leave me there to teach me a lesson, for being such a Mr. Dumas....................

Or get home and find out you knocked power out to your house the all the pipes froze and the venison in the freezer spoiled.

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Originally Posted by Rick

Or get home and find out you knocked power out to your house the all the pipes froze and the venison in the freezer spoiled.

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Now what's wrong with this picture? :innocent:

Frozen pipes and thawed out meat???

http://www.red-hot-mama.com/images/uploads/TB.gif

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Originally Posted by Ken

Now what's wrong with this picture? :innocent:

Frozen pipes and thawed out meat???

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I was thinking the same thing. But, I know nothing of the kind of weather that will freeze your pipes. Maybe, he has a wood stove to heat the freezer in the case of a power outage caused by people chopping down power poles...:tongue_smilie:

Hey! It's my story. I can tell it any way I want. You're awfully snippy to a man with a ban button, you know.

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Originally Posted by Batch

I was thinking the same thing. But, I know nothing of the kind of weather that will freeze your pipes. Maybe, he has a wood stove to heat the freezer in the case of a power outage caused by people chopping down power poles...:tongue_smilie:

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I know you're in the south end of the state, but in the north end when the temps drop below freezing for more than 4 or 5 hours there are lots of burst pipes. All of those off-grade homes with absolutely no insulation around the pipes. One of the busiest times of the year for plumbers up here.