My boys' first real gear

Whatever packs you decide on, remember that they're growing fast.

I was looking at the Camelback packs. I like the narrow profile. Anybody have experience with them? The only one I have was the one issued to Marines. Given to me by a neighbor when he got back from over there. It is just a bladder carrier.

I've got a Camelbak MULE. It's got a 100 oz hydration bladder. Two small storage copartments. You can't carry a lot of gear with it (if you remove the bladder you can fit quite a bit more). For the kids, you probably don't want them carrying too much anyway. When they're ready for more gear the MULE will still be good for day hikes, bike riding, etc.

What ever I get will have to hold not only the basics but a change of clothes too. These boys never stay dry for long. It's some kind of super attraction water holes/creeks/watering troughs, anything to get themselves wet, then muddy.

The Camelbak that I have would probably not be a good choice then. I'm not sure how old mine is, but it does not look like the current pics of the MULE.

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Originally Posted by Pict

I have always had a knife as far back as I can remember. Oddly enough I don't remember having one moments instruction on the use of knives from any adult, nor do I recall adult supervision when using them. There was no "taboo" around using a knife like there was no "taboo" concerning the use of wrenches to take apart our bikes. My point? We survived.

Yes, I do have a very well made scar on my left index finger from a Barlow. I was cutting a notch in the top of a self box and it skipped out. I think that taught me more about knife use and safety than anything else.

I started my kids out with red handled Moras and my son has his own folder. I only let them use their knives when I am there to instruct. It won't save them from getting cut eventually, even I cut myself on occasion. I also bash myself periodically with hammers, shock myself when doing wiring, burn myself on engines, etc. It keeps me on my toes. Mac

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Every day of my life from the time I was 8 years old until today I have had a pocket knife in my pocket. This included most of my time in Elementary school, and all of my time in both Middle and High School. My teachers were well aware of the fact that I carried a knife and, in fact, routinely asked to borrow it when they needed to cut something. Ah, those were the days.

When my oldest boy (now almost 11) turned 8 I bought him his first SAK. He is allowed to carry it at all times, except for at school. Times have changed - and not for the better.

My middle son turns 8 this June and another SAK is soon to join our family collection.

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Originally Posted by MatthewnOK

What kind of packs are you getting them? Does it have a hydration bladder? A sleeping bag compartment? Room for your ammo and rifle... err... maybe not that one. We need details! Details and pictures!!! (pics or it didnt happen l0l n00b.) My nephew who's fixing to be nine wants me to start teaching him survival/bush skills. Kids are great! (with BBQ sauce...)

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Where did you get that idea? Please explain.

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Originally Posted by tennecedar

These boys never stay dry for long. It's some kind of super attraction water holes/creeks/watering troughs, anything to get themselves wet, then muddy.

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Them too huh? Here I thought I had some kind of weird childhood, glad there's others. LOL.

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Originally Posted by tennecedar

Where did you get that idea? Please explain.

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I forgot that you hadn't bought them yet. I just forgot to edit. I wanted pictures of they're new packs (which you haven't bought yet. Pics or it didn't happen is just a online saying when you want pictures of something. :blushing:

Actually, I was wondering about the n00b part. Confused me a little.
(not hard to do)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N00b It's just something computer geeks use to refer to everyone just about. It's akin to 1337 sp34|<

from Wikipedia

Newbie is a slang term for a newcomer to online gaming or an Internet activity. It can also be used for any other activity in whose context a somewhat clueless newcomer could exist. It can have derogatory connotations, but is also often used for descriptive purposes only, without a value judgment.

That's what confused me. Check my join date. Never mind off topic anyway. My bad

Don't feel bad Tennecedar - confused me too. But as you say - not hard to do.

Thanks MatthewnOK for the p.m. and the clarification.

Just teach them how to use the knife and ax. I can attest, that growing up without a male figure in the house, my first ax ended up cutting the side of my right big toe off. A few years later I cut the side of my left thumb off.

Ya don't hold firewood your cutting with your feet or your hand.

Man - that lesson almost cost you an arm and a leg.

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Originally Posted by FVR

Just teach them how to use the knife and ax. I can attest, that growing up without a male figure in the house, my first ax ended up cutting the side of my right big toe off. A few years later I cut the side of my left thumb off.

Ya don't hold firewood your cutting with your feet or your hand.

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No Sh*t? You too? :lol:

After Hurrican Donna skirted by us in 1960, when I was almost 4 years old, my aunt's property sustained some serious tree damage. My family went there to help clean up. As everyone took a break for lunch inside, I snuck outside to do a little clean-up of my own. I managed to take off the tip of my left index finger with a hatchet. :blushing:

People always seem wary of giving me (16) knives to use, but I do own a few, including one locking leatherman, and have cut myself far more with other things that are no where near as deadly. I also never recieved any instruction on how to use them, just saw my dad use his penknife when I was younger, and remembered to cut away from myself.

We wouldn't be leary of you if you saw you way over to the Introductions section and told us a bit about yourself.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...splay.php?f=14

I just ordered a copy of the movie Old Yeller thinking that might drive home the responsibilities of having an axe.

OK, I need some help here. Was it Old Yeller or Where The Red Fern Grows where the two boys are arguing over the axe and one falls on it killing him?