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08-23-2007, 06:32 PM
FVR

Ah, Sarge you're just yanking my chain.

Kabars, real Kabars are manuf. by Alcas/CUTCO/Vector headquarters in Olean, N.Y.

Some Kabar folding knives are made in China. I see they have won two awards for their import folders in the past.

Well, I know of one of my Kabars that is made in the US, Kabar MKII.
08-23-2007, 07:53 PM
Chris

Well UC was located just outside of Knoxville, but that doesn't mean they didn't have factories in China. Where a company has their headquarters isn't always relevant. I don't know in this case or not, just saying.

Sorry Sarge, I don't know. But yes, the Colt Jungle Commander is just stainless which isn't going to be the strongest metal. Especially not good for attacking anything hard like wood or stone.

You can buy knives made in china with better steel, you just have to pay for the better steel. So the quality isn't so much a function of where it is made, but the cost of making it.
08-23-2007, 08:20 PM
Sarge47

Fvr?

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Originally Posted by FVR

Back.

Most knives we throw are pretty pricy. You get what you pay for, or in my case, trade for.

Good set of competition throwing knives will run you close to $300 bucks. Usually they can be thrown by the handle and by the blade for 1/2, full, 1.5, 2, and many more turns.

Most competitions you will need 5 knives, so many will sell you 4 and throw in the 5th one at no charge.

I did go out and purchase 5 "cheaper" bowies, and was not that happy with them. Matter of fact, I gave them away. Just can't stand crap.

Check out my homepage.

Here is an old article for ya.

http://www.danwashburn.com/throwing.html

So the 1st & last letters of your screen name stand for Frank Rago? Don't worry, I saw the knives and the tomahawk, no jokes here!:rolleyes:
08-23-2007, 08:27 PM
Sarge47

Hmmm.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Well UC was located just outside of Knoxville, but that doesn't mean they didn't have factories in China. Where a company has their headquarters isn't always relevant. I don't know in this case or not, just saying.

Sorry Sarge, I don't know. But yes, the Colt Jungle Commander is just stainless which isn't going to be the strongest metal. Especially not good for attacking anything hard like wood or stone.

You can buy knives made in china with better steel, you just have to pay for the better steel. So the quality isn't so much a function of where it is made, but the cost of making it.

I just got Ka-bar's "Bull Dozier" which is made in taiwan, yet boasts AUS8 SS. According to the people at Ka-bar it's a "stainless steel" equivalent to 1095 Carbon steel. I've already tested it more than the Colt and it does a lot better hacking job on tough wood without any change to the edge. FVR, you need to check out Ka-bar's web-site. I don't think the Ka-bar fighting knife is made in China because it boasts 1095 Carbon and all china can get is 1085, but Ka-bar shouldn't sell junk!:eek: BTW, I just checked the box for the "Bull D." and it says: "An Alcas Company.200 Homer Street, Olean, N.Y. 14760.www.ka-bar.com. check it out Wolf!
08-23-2007, 08:43 PM
FVR

I believe the Bul Dozier has won Kabar two honors of best imported folding knife.

You are right on, Kabar should not sell junk.

I do believe in the "world market" but some things just need to stay in the US. I mean, what would it be like to own a Winchester repeating rifle, made in Japan?

Or, how about a Harley Davidson that is made in Japan. Oooops, most components already are.

I do believe Gerber is still made in the US.

And,

My baby is American made, born and bred in the USA, from her sexy long legs to her silky long hair, my baby is American made.
08-23-2007, 08:48 PM
Sarge47

Remember when?

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Originally Posted by FVR

I believe the Bul Dozier has won Kabar two honors of best imported folding knife.

You are right on, Kabar should not sell junk.

I do believe in the "world market" but some things just need to stay in the US. I mean, what would it be like to own a Winchester repeating rifle, made in Japan?

Or, how about a Harley Davidson that is made in Japan. Oooops, most components already are.

I do believe Gerber is still made in the US.

And,

My baby is American made, born and bred in the USA, from her sexy long legs to her silky long hair, my baby is American made.

When I was a kid all the "junk" came from Japan, anybody besides me old enough to remember that!:confused:
08-23-2007, 08:54 PM
FVR

That was before Honda came out with their first 90cc motorcyle. Do you remember............

"You meet the nicest people on a Honda?"
08-23-2007, 08:54 PM
wareagle69

all i can say is fvr went up in my respect book. we can pretty much be assured that what he posts he can back it up..
08-23-2007, 08:56 PM
nell67

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

When I was a kid all the "junk" came from Japan, anybody besides me old enough to remember that!:confused:

uuuummmm yep sarge...I do:(
08-23-2007, 08:59 PM
wareagle69

I'm with ya old timer..
08-23-2007, 09:09 PM
nell67

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Originally Posted by wareagle69

I'm with ya old timer..

LOL cant deny it anymore haha!
08-23-2007, 09:13 PM
FVR

Oh so I guess we are just a bunch of "OLD FARTS." Well, that's what my wife calls me.
08-23-2007, 09:17 PM
wareagle69

my wife says i'm a pig..
08-24-2007, 11:36 AM
trax

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Originally Posted by wareagle69

my wife says i'm a pig..

stop teaching moose to fart, she'll stop calling you that, LOL
08-24-2007, 04:21 PM
Tony uk

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Originally Posted by DEET

START RANT
Okay here's the deal. One of my favorite hobbies (besides trying to kill myself in the woods of course:D ) is knife throwing. Well I ordered a set of colt throwing knives, you know colt the great american gun and knife manufacturer, and received them via the big brown truck today. I open the box all raring to go chuck my new knives and when I pull them out of the sheath there it is stamped right above the hilt on the blade .........CHINA.:mad: You've got to be kidding me, china?! What's next my buck knives are going to be made in korea? Well they are boxed up and ready for the big brown truck to come get them tomorrow. I'm not about to wing an inferior blade at god knows what speed at a big peice of oak, that has emergency room visit written all over it. I swear I can't believe that they would put the Colt name on a chinese blade.
END RANT

On a happier note anyone else here into knife throwing?:D

Thats really bad :( , I got something like that once but it was not a kinfe but a load of lightsticks, i had ordered high grade cyalume lightsticks and it was another brand that came
08-24-2007, 05:01 PM
wareagle69

that's not the reason trax
08-24-2007, 05:04 PM
owl_girl

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Originally Posted by wareagle69

that's not the reason trax

Well maybe you should take a bath.
08-24-2007, 05:27 PM
trax

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Originally Posted by wareagle69

that's not the reason trax

OK, partner, then I don't want to know :D :D
08-26-2007, 11:51 PM
DEET

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Originally Posted by Chris

Many knives are made in china, and remember, the chinese have been making swords & knives for about 4 thousand years, they actually have more experience in doing so than more or less any other culture.

Unless I'm mistaken I believe it was the japanese that were known for their skill at knife and sword making skills. The chinese were known for their engineering, scientific, literary, and prowess at the composite bow which the learned from the mongols and perfected. But lets get real here the chinese manufacture cut rate and dangerous items not because they can't make them better but because they really don't care.
08-27-2007, 12:05 AM
Sarge47

Hmmmm.

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Originally Posted by DEET

Unless I'm mistaken I believe it was the japanese that were known for their skill at knife and sword making skills. The chinese were known for their engineering, scientific, literary, and prowess at the composite bow which the learned from the mongols and perfected. But lets get real here the chinese manufacture cut rate and dangerous items not because they can't make them better but because they really don't care.

Deet, you make an interesting point, so let me ask you this, Both Buck & Ka-bar have some of their knives made in China, do you think the quality suffers to the point that the knife made in China is inferior to the ones made in the USA? Or do you think they maintain excellent quality control in any plant they may have in a foreign country to the exact same standards that they have over here? I, myself, would probably not buy a knife made in China by a company owned strictly by the Chinese to be placed in the US marketplace, but I'm referring to an "American owned" company.:confused:

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