Where do we go from here?
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Originally Posted by
volwest
What i am "suggesting" is that ignoring is not the best plan to arrive at a resolution.
Here's the issue: While I tend to agree with you I also think that what other course of action taken will be somewhat dictated by the options available, and there's not too many here. Here's the problem the way I see it. !st, I didn't care about the thread title "demoting" me from "Sargent" to "Private", just thought it was childish and let it go at that. 2nd, as you've already explained more eloquently than I ever could, it wasn't the "debating". Everybody here is entitled to their opinion, even if all the others disagree with it, that's what this site is about. 3rd, a nasty precedent has been set. A violation of trust & privacy. It shouldn't simply be overlooked as that seems to send the message that nothing bad has been done, thereby giving said person the feeling that it would be okay to repeat the act. Yet there should be an accounting. I don't believe that said person should be barred from the site; I think they should be given a 2nd chance but should also take responsibility for their actions, possibly doing the following three things. 1.) Publicly (within the group) acknowledge their wrongdoing. 2.) Offer a sincere apology. & 3.) Promise never to violate the sanctity of the privacy issue again. Not being able to do this in person excludes a 4th action which would be a mutual shaking of hands. Yes, you are right about your view of "Wolf Pack Behavior". However at the same time we are humans with a bit more intelligence and responsibility than the animal we tend to take after. Wow! look at me going on & on & you the one with the brief posts!:rolleyes:
*SM sticks out hand for shaking*
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Originally Posted by
Sarge47
Here's the issue: While I tend to agree with you I also think that what other course of action taken will be somewhat dictated by the options available, and there's not too many here. Here's the problem the way I see it. !st, I didn't care about the thread title "demoting" me from "Sargent" to "Private", just thought it was childish and let it go at that. 2nd, as you've already explained more eloquently than I ever could, it wasn't the "debating". Everybody here is entitled to their opinion, even if all the others disagree with it, that's what this site is about. 3rd, a nasty precedent has been set. A violation of trust & privacy. It shouldn't simply be overlooked as that seems to send the message that nothing bad has been done, thereby giving said person the feeling that it would be okay to repeat the act. Yet there should be an accounting. I don't believe that said person should be barred from the site; I think they should be given a 2nd chance but should also take responsibility for their actions, possibly doing the following three things. 1.) Publicly (within the group) acknowledge their wrongdoing. 2.) Offer a sincere apology. & 3.) Promise never to violate the sanctity of the privacy issue again. Not being able to do this in person excludes a 4th action which would be a mutual shaking of hands. Yes, you are right about your view of "Wolf Pack Behavior". However at the same time we are humans with a bit more intelligence and responsibility than the animal we tend to take after. Wow! look at me going on & on & you the one with the brief posts!:rolleyes:
Ok sarge, because I am a nice guy who doesn't tend to get offensive and blame it on where I come from or my upbringing, and I like you, so I'll do what I can to appease you.
1/2) I admit I was getting extreme by posting what Sarge said to me privately. But there is no way that anybody HERE could've missed who you were talking about the way you started that thread "recusing myself" so I wasn't the first to violate any kind of "trust" or "privacy" and then you went and took it out of context anyways. i was simply putting what was said in context for everyone, seeing how it made ME look like the little pussy cat jerk. I was not trying to divulge any secret you may have with me and I DO apologize that it offended you sarge and I will go ahead and delete the posts that include what you said even though I see nothing offensive about them that people can get out of them.
3) I doubt I will ever again feel the need to reveal what someone said to me in private for three reasons: first because I don't think I will have anybody go to the lengths you did with me to try and prove a point, second because I almost always agree with you guys about survival, and we all end up agreeing in the end, and finally I doubt I will be getting that many private messages anyways because I'm not too big on them because I trust everyone here with everything I say.
4) This is me reaching out to you now Sarge, so this can all get back on track.
