Air Pistol

this is the one i think looks the best for the $ and ive been looking at.
http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/RWS_5G_...dyn2166925.htm

benefits i think a pellet gun might have are you can carry thousands of rounds in a cup size container, and won't give away your position if you were worried about other people and won't scare game as much. although it's pricey, it's a single pump which only takes seconds to reload vs. a multipump which can take more than minute and can scare away game just with the pumping noise alone, but only costs $50

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Originally Posted by BaerClaw

this is the one i think looks the best for the $ and ive been looking at.
http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/RWS_5G_...dyn2166925.htm

benefits i think a pellet gun might have are you can carry thousands of rounds in a cup size container, and won't give away your position if you were worried about other people and won't scare game as much. although it's pricey, it's a single pump which only takes seconds to reload vs. a multipump which can take more than minute and can scare away game just with the pumping noise alone, but only costs $50

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I don't think I'm wrong here. This is a wilderness survival forum. We talk about wilderness survival. Why would you care if your weapon of choice gives away your position. Unless you have something to hide in which case you are probably doing something illegal. One of the most important things in a survival situation is getting found. Making noise is one way of ensuring that happens. Whether you choose to use a pellet gun or a 12 guage shotgun, make that choice for the right reasons.

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Originally Posted by klkak

I don't think I'm wrong here. This is a wilderness survival forum. We talk about wilderness survival. Why would you care if your weapon of choice gives away your position. Unless you have something to hide in which case you are probably doing something illegal. One of the most important things in a survival situation is getting found. Making noise is one way of ensuring that happens. Whether you choose to use a pellet gun or a 12 guage shotgun, make that choice for the right reasons.

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Sorry I forgot trying to survive in the woods after an apocalypse or in a war zone isn't wilderness survival.......... try thinking next time!
would you want to give up your location to man with a gun trying to feed his family too or a group of soldier trying to kill you!?! to truly be prepared you must try to plane for every survival situation. scout motto "always be prepared"

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Originally Posted by Ameriborn

I already have a .22, which is why I wanted the Air Pistol. Plus, I like shooting cans with them more, since I can shoot a brick of 22 in a day, and it takes me at least a week to get through all of the BBs.

However, I have decided I would carry the .22 with me now.

Have any of you saw the TV show on the Versus network where the guy shoots wild hogs with an air rifle? He uses dogs to corner them and then shoots them in the head and they die. On one he even shot it in the vitals and it died. He said he shot it there just to slow it down, but it died soon after he shot it!

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Originally Posted by BaerClaw

Sorry I forgot trying to survive in the woods after an apocalypse or in a war zone isn't wilderness survival.......... try thinking next time!
would you want to give up your location to man with a gun trying to feed his family too or a group of soldier trying to kill you!?! to truly be prepared you must try to plane for every survival situation. scout motto "always be prepared"

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I have seen the air gun show and while the Hunting Professor does a god job I get the impression that he is a representative of the Gamo company and that his shows are carefully edited to so mostly clean one shot kills.

I see your point about being low key but if there are bogies about I would put out snares and leave the heavy air rifle put away and replace the wait with a substantive defensive tool and ammo.

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Originally Posted by HOP

I have seen the air gun show and while the Hunting Professor does a god job I get the impression that he is a representative of the Gamo company and that his shows are carefully edited to so mostly clean one shot kills.

I see your point about being low key but if there are bogies about I would put out snares and leave the heavy air rifle put away and replace the wait with a substantive defensive tool and ammo.

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yeah I agree i would not want it as my defensive gun but with a AR15 haha and im also not talk about a heavy air rifle Im talking a fairly lightweight air pistol and a 1000 rounds in coffee cup size container. the Ruger 10/22 with a lightweight barrel and stock is the gun id use as for a hope to be found survival gun.

here is the air pistol im talking about. plus i love air guns there so much FUN! if i got this id probably use it more then any other gun i have! haha
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...questid=118541

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Originally Posted by BaerClaw

Sorry I forgot trying to survive in the woods after an apocalypse or in a war zone isn't wilderness survival.......... try thinking next time!
would you want to give up your location to man with a gun trying to feed his family too or a group of soldier trying to kill you!?! to truly be prepared you must try to plane for every survival situation. scout motto "always be prepared"

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You are trying to compare apples to butterflies!

Lets not forget that I am a former U.S. military Combat instructor, E & E instructor and Wilderness survival instructor. I also have several years of experience in military operations in harms way. As well as 10 years of subsistence living caring for my mother and siblings.

I have some questions for you.

1) Are you in the military?
2) Are you or are you likely to be in a war zone?
3) Do you really believe you will be in the aftermath of an apocalypse?

There is a big difference in surviving in a war zone and surviving in the woods of Minnesota.

If you are in the military then you know you can't carry unauthorized weapons.

If you are not in the military. Then you are not likely to be in a war zone.

If you believe you will be in the aftermath of an apocalypse then you are watching to much T.V. and spending to much time listening to conspiracy radio.

Being prepared is a good thing. Spend time preparing for a really bad winter, or being unemployed for 6 months.

Preparing for a group of soldiers trying to kill you and you are not in the military or in a war zone or an apocalypse is nothing short of mental illness.

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Originally Posted by BaerClaw

try thinking next time!

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Seriously now. You picked the wrong guy to say that to. If I had to be marooned in the Alaskan wilderness or somewhere up near Great Bear Lake, there are only a handful of folks on here that I'd want with me (No, they don't get a vote on whether I tag along). Klkak would be one of them. But, hey, it WAS funny.

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Originally Posted by BaerClaw

Sorry I forgot trying to survive in the woods after an apocalypse or in a war zone isn't wilderness survival.......... try thinking next time!
would you want to give up your location to man with a gun trying to feed his family too or a group of soldier trying to kill you!?! to truly be prepared you must try to plane for every survival situation. scout motto "always be prepared"

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You need to think next time, and maybe do a little reading up on who your criticizing! klkak is one of the few people here that you would want with you in any survival situation. Besides for that, I have been in war zones, did two tours. NOT ONCE did I see a combatant with a silencer on his weapon. You watch to many movies about covert ops. :rolleyes:

if you guys say so. he said sh## about my idea so i gave him sh## back. plus dont act so tuff i fight competively and me against you klkak wouldnt even be sport. if you were more respectful in your comments you wouldnt get such snippy comments back.

make the choice for the right reasons. ; )

some ppl just like air guns dam##! haha

you shouldnt be trying to make enemies. so you go to my profile klkak and see im in my 20's so you list all the things youve done knowing it will be more then me because of my age. to make you look good to everyone well remember because of your age time, speed, strenght, and endurance are on my side. and im willing to learn from you if your willing to get off the pedestal.

also im sick of guys how can give it and cant take it. think about it next time just because hes your friend he can say what ever he wants to new members but the new guy gives him a little sh** back and every one jumps in behind him. more like a pack of school girls an wolfs

Jeeez. Who twisted your petticoat in a knot? Chill out, partner. You might try listening to what some of the old men have to say. You just might find yourself learning something.;)

Well I'm not in my twenties, I'm in my fifties.

I don't fight competively, when I fight it's for keeps.

I didn't need to read either bio to know whom I would prefer to have on my side in a tough situation.

Pack of school girls???? Good luck seeing your thirties.

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Well I'm not in my twenties, I'm in my fifties.

I don't fight competively, when I fight it's for keeps.

I didn't need to read either bio to know whom I would prefer to have on my side in a tough situation.

Pack of school girls???? Good luck seeing your thirties.

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bring it ill show you keeps...

You know, when you first came to the forum I thought you were welcomed rather warmly and that you had some valuable information to share. My opinion has changed a bit. If you want to play billy bad azz, find some other place to play.

BaerClaw - If you keep this up we WILL send this girl to your house. She takes no hostages. Just be forewarned.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/shared-...dia/wedgie.jpg

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

You know, when you first came to the forum I thought you were welcomed rather warmly and that you had some valuable information to share. My opinion has changed a bit. If you want to play billy bad azz, find some other place to play.

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I did to and wanted to! but didn't realise this site was a remake of grumper old men. i never wanted for anything to start but thats hard with every one in my face.

nice dictatorship you guys call a forum i wont be logging in anymore thanks.

RICK you see him crashdive123 threaten me then warn me!?!? wtf

Serious lack of survival skills there BaerClaw. It's called thin skin. If you can't take a few sour words you certainly couldn't last long in the wild. Sayonara!

what about every one geting pissed at me they have thick skin? hahaha your funny

What? Are you still here? I thought you left? Well, then. Welcome back.

I can see that you have honed those survival skills to.........how did you put it.........I mean you said it so eloquently........oh yeah.......you have honed those survival skills so well that you get chased off by a pack of school girls.

If you would like to stay, then stay. You probably have a lot to offer, and might learn a bit as well. If you decide to go, then go. Either way you do not have to announce your intentions. Like the sportswear slogan says, just do it.

I just read the edit that you did to your post.

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RICK you see him crashdive123 threaten me then warn me!?!? wtf

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If you felt threatened by any of the posts in this thread, then it is probably best if you stick with the little school girls --- not as scarey as a bunch of grumpy old men.