yup agreed always like to try stuff out when i have some spare time. As i said before: easier read then done
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yup agreed always like to try stuff out when i have some spare time. As i said before: easier read then done
Not knocking the way you learn at all. Books are good! And Scouts might not have been right for you. As Crash would say, "If it works for you, it works for me".:D
the only problem that you could ever run into with books is that they can complicate stuff for example: gutting a deer, somebody could write a million books on gutting skinning and butchering a deer. but really all you have to do is sit back and think: ok the guts are in the deer now and they need to be outside the deer when i'm done. everythings complicated in some way but the only way to learn is try. watch how somebody else does it. that's another way i've learnt alot of stuff.
I agree, respect for the wilderness is a great thing to have, but in my opinion, kick, punch, bash, cruch, swear, beat and kill all you ned to if it means survival. While I agree not having respect for the wilderness is not nessicerily(sp) a good thing, I think he did the right thing, by smashing and killing everything. Assuming this is the case I think it is.
ryleyboy, based on what you said, here's a couple of thoughts:
1. I don't know what you know or don't about tracks, but having water in them means they're fresh if it's seepage, had it rained or snowed around you lately?
2. About 99 times out of a 100 if someone's lost and they keep moving, they get more lost. If it happens again, stay put. Following animal tracks, fresh or old, is only going to lead you to where that animal wanted to go.
3. You had an axe, big plus, you could have made a lean-to of some kind out of all those logs you were chopping on.
4. While I appreciate flandersanders enthusiasm, when you're lost you're going to have to think about food and energy displacement. That thing about how long a person can go without food is all well and good, but you can't go more than a couple of days and still function effectively. That's the difference. Don't waste your energy chopping the crap out of things for no good reason.
5. For future reference, any time you and your buddy decide to go a-frolicking in the wilderness, either leave blazes on the trail or just make note of landmarks and check behind yourself as you travel every few minutes. That way you know what your trail is supposed to look like on the way back!
it didnt rain for about 3 days.. but the trail was beside a swamp so the ground was really moist. we did mark trees buy chopping the bark a little but kinda lost that sfter awhile.. i know we should have stayed were we first found out we were lost but if we hadnt wondered we probably wouldnt be back yet. its heavy bush up north and much of it/
Well OK then, I'm wrong. I am, however, beginning to understand why the adults weren't out looking for you. I promise not to offer any more of my foolishness next time you ask the experienced people here for advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryleyboy
Careful there Trax - you're about to be added to the Crash and Rick pfffffft crowd.
Then I'll be in dang good company bro. You know, I saw those postings and I'd recalled offering that kid some pretty friendly advice on something once before all that and kinda thought wtf? well....wtf! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Ryleyboy,
No one here is trying to offend you or upset you, the people answering your questions are experienced in the wilderness, Trax lives in Canada maybe not near you but the wilderness where he goes is alot like yours.
You were in a survival situation and did what you thought best, good and better you made it out. But LISTEN to them because they are actually helping you with this information. Scouts (good idea btw) or not you need training in the wilderness, you can read all ya want but you need to practice these skills, try it at home first in the back yard or near the home, for safety reasons.
since it was close to home KNOW YOUR SURROUNDINGS, by this I mean get a map of the area and study it, being young I would put it in your pack, yes pack, make one up that you take with you when ever you hit the wilds in your area. Learn the creeks, rivers, and waterways around you (from the map), learn the trails and mark them on the map, land features too (mark them on the map). In this way until you know it like the back of your hand its a quick guide for you.
Take a whistle and light, maybe a mirror or bright panal of cloth (yellow or blaze orange) just for signaling. A few food items (not candy or junk food but protien bars), water bottles, some rope (550 cord is best, about 50' minimum), waterproof matches, and some first aid gear. All this in your pack. THIS A BARE MINIMUM AT BEST SINCE YOUR LEARNING.
But I think you need to find someone to teach you the wilderness and its ways (the mountains have their own ways pilgrim), and stop cutting on trees and killing the animals, so what if there's too many gophers, you're 13 or 14 and its not your problem, glad you wanna help but learn about nature first. I'm sure there are hawks around there, let them take care of the gophers for now and learn to respect, feel, and live in and with nature first. Not being all Tom Brown wilderness spiritual on ya but you need to be taught correctly.
Just my thoughts.
Beo,
And I did a whole posting on trapping, check it out it may help you... may not. beats smacking gophers with nail studded sticks.
If I'm wrong, I apologize but I find it hard to believe that a kid, any kid, would be "lost" for 4 days and an all out SAR mission wasn't initiated. If that happened then something is wrong with your folks.
I think you're just a kid giving us a lot of mumbo jumbo trying to fit in because a lot of what you are saying doesn't make much sense to me. For example, when talk turned to not hurting animals, your story changed to a less barbaric one. When talk turned to eating gophers you suddenly tried one. You don't have to do any of that. Just read through some of the posts and if you don't understand something then ask a question. All of us are willing to help out. But READ the response and try to absorb it. Trax gave you a LOT of excellent advice and you just tossed it aside. That will stop folks from giving you advice in a heart beat. Had you read his piece and actually thought about it you'd have seen some opportunities there that might have been worthwhile to learn about.
Again, if I'm wrong I apologize but I'm just calling it like I see it.
Very true, Weren't your parents worried about you? Why didn't the authorities get involved? And Rick's right no SAR (Search And Rescue) was sent out? I smell something that seems like bs... hmmm...
There is some of the best info on this site that you will ever get, I for one can say if you've been yanking our chain all this time I will ignore your posts. But that's just me, I tend to like honest people not ones trying to impress. Wanna impress me, be yourself, say I wanna learn this or that, search the forums for the info and then ask the questions you have.
I've been going over all his posts, and I think our chain is being yanked by someone. Rick can you check the IP address? Is it any where near the Saskatchewan Forest? Which he said was right behind his house.... :rolleyes:
Or does it match Sam Reeves or TheFreakinBear.... just curious.
Did he mean Prince Albert National Park?
there's lots and lots of forest in Saskatchewan, guys. I'm not familiar with the lake he named, but it sounds like the countryside in north-central, up towards Prince Albert.
From Wikipedia,
Emma Lake
Emma Lake is a combined campground, and lake. The area has a population of around 900 in the summertime, and 200 in the wintertime. Emma Lake is 45 kilometers north of Prince Albert, Saskatchewan and 5 kilometers from Christopher Lake, Saskatchewan.
Emma Lake consists of three smaller lakes and is located just to the south of the entrance to Prince Albert National Park. It lies within the Rural Municipality of Lakeland 521.
It's Saskatchewan Telecom. I didn't doubt where he was from I just think it's a 13 year trying hard to fit in and not doing it in the right way. No harm, no foul, Ryleyboy. Just don't try so hard.
I don't know . . . I was thinking this was a gimmick account, too, which is why I haven't really chimed in much on the boy. It is nice you guys trying to help him, but most of what he is posting is fantasy. If you really are a kid, R-boy, then listen to the advice others have given.
Looks to me like it's just someone seeing how much they can rattle the cage, though. Maybe someone still sore because Sarge chewed on his "I Gotz a Knife!" thread or something. (My hunch is based on the absolutely unscientific fact that he can spell Saskatchewan correctly, but flubs other things. Kids I work with that spell that bad and that consistently, booger up all words - even their own names and addresses.)
Let's ask Flandersander - they said they knew each other. Flandersaner, what's up with Ryleboy?