Hey, that thing could still raise a bump!
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Hey, that thing could still raise a bump!
i was 13 or so and it was just some dumb ole 25 pound splintery fiberglass bow with those target arrows. i'd say the arrows got up to about ahunnerd yards or so, and i had to do a lot of running around since they didn't always come straight down. that stuff was easy. now darts on the other hand...ok my buddy and i stood at opposite ends of the yard, each holding a broomstick(without the brush part), then through darts at each other, and you had to stop the dart by making it stick into the broom handle. only once did someone(he) get punctured, and that was just in the foot.(i threw a high-arcing lob, and he followed it right down to his foot and missed). oops! SHHH be QUIET! STOP YELLING MOMMY!!
You were in NO danger.
And you called the Environmental Gestapo on the firing range? Shame on you. I'll bet that gun club has been there for a LONG time.
Now, if you want a good 'man stopping' round and you reload your own shotty shells, try dimes.
Yeah, good old USA dimes. Use newer ones that are made of a 'sandwiched material', as the pre-1964 dimes actually have silver in them. Unless you are hunting vampires? But a small handful of dimes - call it $1.50 to $2.00 worth, depending on the length of the shell - will do massive damage on almost any target. And they don't get nasty until they have left the barrel, assuming you did your reloading job correctly. So your shotgun barrel will not be harmed.
Gives a whole new meaning to "keep the change" Thanks for that wallew, now I don't need to lay awake at night worrying about what to do with all that spare change. I can just go shoot someone with it! That whole bleeding to death slowly from the shrapnel makes it particularly inviting.
Yah, I've got some 'unusual' rounds I've developed.
Take any pistol round. Disassemble it (CAREFULLY). Drill the back of the bullet. Put it ONE DROP of liquid mercury (just in case some one comes back with "what about solid mercury"), then seal the end with a two stage epoxy.
Gives a whole new meaning to dying of mercury poisoning. And that person didn't even have to eat fish!!
The majority of my ammo if FMJ. Mainly military surplus. But that's only because I purchase used military weapons. So naturally I NEED military surplus ammo to fire them with.
That's MY theory and I'm sticking with it.
uh huh....and what exactly are you needing to shoot there wallew?
a friend of mine used pennies (same size as american dimes) in his 10 gauge , kicked worse then buckshot and inaccurate after 15 yards but if you wana blow something to pieces then why not. if you want some more extreme poison bullets drill wadcutters and put hydrogen cyanide (made with potassium cyanide) in the hole , epoxy works but i usually use liquid glass cement. thats a liquid one which is more dangerous but cyanide is one of the less powerfull poisons if you want something real dangerous buy a castor bean plant and grind up the beans / leaves and concentrate it youv got near pure Ricin which is one of the worst poisons out there. i alway wondered if you took a piece of spring steel in a lathe and turn it into a boat tailed .22 diameter bullet then hand loaded it into .22 short rounds to use in a ruger 10/22 would it be powerfull enough to go through a Class II or 2A vest....
If this stuff is so lethal how come you guys aren't dead? Just curious because...arrgggghhhhhhhh.
Trax,
Why Mutant Ninja Zombies, of course.
Rick,
Cause we don't shoot ourselves with the rounds. We shoot targets. After all, we are only TESTING this stuff.
I would NEVER use it on another person. ;)
Ah, but you do handle it.
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Sounds like somebody has been reading too many Paladin "How to" books. Sure, I can load a better man stopper but I don't give a rat's a$$ why you shoot somebody your gun and ammo will be checked. Sometimes the ME may even check if you killed him or he dropped dead from a sudden heart attack. You never should use handloads for self defense. Decent stopping ammo available for any centerfire and I have them in my 380, 38, 357,40, 45 & 44mag all factory ammo. I practice with handloads or cheap ammo. I don't bother to "practice" with a shotgun or rifle just shoot them enough to blow the dust out of the barrel. The words that should come out of your mouth to the LEO is "I feared for my life (wife, kids etc). I fired in his direction." You don't say I lined up and shot him between the eyes." You may have but the world don't need to know, and a slim chance he died of something else, but you say he was warned and given the chance to beat feet and you had no choice. Even a little tear might help. If you never pulled down on a man before after the "rush" you will know. If you have killed a human before I don't need to tell you anything, just a little friendly advice, nothing personal you can load and use whatever flips your switch.
AH, Grasshopper,
You are assuming that 911 will be called.
And during any SHTF, chances are pretty good that won't even be possible, because the police will be minding their own families safety. Plus even IF the phones and power are working, chances are pretty good that there will be long delays in the police responding to anything.
It's the old rule of S3.
OK, I defer to your experience with firearms. I will still stick with factory loads, I probably would damage the barrel of a decent shotgun by sticking coins in the barrel and shooting again. Blowing up a revolver cylinder in a semi-auto I would probably underload and jam or overload and have the case stick in the barrel. I don't think I have the experience for exotic ammo.
I've shot a load of money before but never through a barrel.
OWVC,
There are few things I know well. I have a degree in computers (circa 1981), then 16+ years in the field. Then got burned out and earned a second degree in gunsmithing (circa 1998). There's one load I developed more than ten years ago. It's now in use by cops. It's their 'door breach' round. It's small metal flakes in a shell. You get all the 'bang' because this round is used at very close range. But because there are no large pieces, the energy is disappated quickly and does not endanger either the officers on the outside or the perps on the insidebut it does make a mess of a door at less than three feet. I've still got several large containers of metal flakes for reloads. Almost ANY machine shop has tons of scrap metal such as this. I got mine at gunsmithing school from the machine shop section.
Plus cars, my whole life. And motorcycles, again my whole life. Photography and journalism since high school (a long time ago). Paid and published.
I've slowly added things to my skill list.
Gardener. Canner. Cook. Emergency Medic. Philosopher. Janitor.
I'm not shy about jumping in and attempting to help anyone who needs help. Even if all I can do is hold a light while the experts do their thing. But I'm always willing to help.
You have a nice resume. Only one problem, I don't impress easily so don't try. Most folks on here don't even try. We pass information that answers a question or make a comment. If you don't like what I post skip it. You are a computer expert so I am sure you can scroll right on by mine. I have nothing to prove and if you do, well there's that old Bobby Bare song "THE WINNER" read the lyrics and learn.:rolleyes:
OWVC,
That's not my resume. That's my life, at least one part of it. And I didn't list it to 'impress' anyone. THE ONLY PERSON I HAVE TO PROVE THINGS TO IS GOD. Not you or anyone else on earth.
I've found in my 55 years, there's always someone smarter, quicker, better looking, richer, etc than I am. And there's always someone less than I.
And yeah, being a computer whiz, I could even add you to my 'ignore' list. But why?
I was just responding to your post. That's all. You seemed to infer that I didn't know anything about firearms in an offhanded way. I was just trying to explain that was incorrect. Perhaps you should take your own advice. If you don't like what I say, SCROLL ON DOWN...
Perhaps you should go listen to 'Turn the Page' and 'Same Old Me' ...
I already know 'The Winner'. Can you say the same about my choices?
I am truly humbled by your presence here but I could care less, I read all posts I get a chance to read, still ain't impressed so best leave it there.
two words to end your argument , crossbow and shovel.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't that three words? If you were going for the count it would have been something like: crossbow; shovel. You didn't mention punctuation so I guess you can include as much of that as you want.:D