Kidding you about what ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Omid
I just picked up 2 twin packs of the fuel for $.40 ea twin pack ( $.80 for 4 cans) :D
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Kidding you about what ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Omid
I just picked up 2 twin packs of the fuel for $.40 ea twin pack ( $.80 for 4 cans) :D
I agree. But for 3 generations now Americans have been trained to buy it from the store, instead of make it. With more lay offs and higher prices (which means less buying power) I think we will see people start making a few more items themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
Personally I am very interested in making stuff from household items, or "junque" (that's French).
Uh... yep, I just bought one at K-mart for $7.89 plus tax. I also got the twin pack of fuel for $6.99 plus tax. Price is going up alright but I figured that these items were easier and more compact to carry than the canister gas powered single burner 'campers' stove I have and a lot safer too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot
Thats nice if you have the resources to make all this stuff from junque. Much easier to buy it ready made, if affordable.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulrush
I made a pop can stove, took a little time to do it. The plans called for putting a wad of home insulation inside, to soak up the fuel I guess, It didn't work as I could not get it to light even by following instructions about heating the can with over flow fuel on the outside. Waste of time, threw the whole thing away after taking an hour to make it. In the wilderness in a survival situation, that might have been a costly mistake to try and make one of those.
What I try to do is go prepared with proven methods, skills and equipment, that way I stand a better chance of surviving and it is much more of an enjoyable duress.
Even if your pop can stove didn't work the way you wanted it to (flames coming out the jet holes), you can use it in a survival situation. Just the cuo-off bottom of a soda can with some alcohol in it can act as a heat source. It may not look fancy, but if it'll boil your water, heat your food, or keep you warm - it's good enough.
One of the best deals I ever scored on an alcohol stove is the Trangia Swedish Army Cooker. I paid about $8.00 for the Trangia stove, cooking pots, wind screen and plastic alcohol bottle. The Trangia Westwind stove sells for $24-$25 alone. I don't carry the pots because they are too heavy but they make a great car camping cooker and the Trangia stove has a screw on cap that prevents the alcohol from leaking out. I understand they can run on Denatured Alcohol, Gas Line Antifreeze (HEET), Pure Methanol or Ethanol, or Rubbing Alcohol. All I've ever used is Denatured Alcohol.
Those of you in the UK can buy them all day long. In the US and Canada, you can still score deals on eBay if you keep an eye out.
There is a trick you can use in alcohol stoves to prevent them from sooting your cooking pots. Add about 5% water to the alcohol!
I have a small one can sterno camp stove and it has proven to be well worth the $8.00 (with tax) I paid for it. I used it extensively during the aftermaths of Hurricanes Andrew and Wilma. No power for over two weeks after Andrew and almost a week after Wilma. A total of 4 weeks usage that used less than a half of a can of sterno. Best part is, no one seems to think of sterno as a hurricane/emergency supply item. Store shelves empty of candles, charcoal, brick wax, propane, and even duralogs ... sterno just sits there for some reason.
The stove is slow to heat (sterno is not the hottest burning fuel, alcohol based, unpressurized) and boiling water can take some time, but a single can seems to last a long time. A Wiki article estimates that a 7 oz. can will burn for just over 2 hours. I love my little stove though. It folds up nicely (6.75" x 6.75" x .5") and has a windbreak hatch door to insert/remove the fuel can.
Rick, I agree 100% on the Triangia stove. Mine works great. The one I have has the simmer ring so it's easy to adjust. I tried using it with red Heet and didn't think it burned as well as denatured alcohol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
those stoves are great. 91g-dub, try the heet in the yellow bottle it works better. the best fuel i've used in mine is pure grain but its expensive.
I tried to boil water with sterno and got tired of waiting after 30 minutes. But alcohol stoves like the Whitebox or Trangia boil water in 4 minutes. Theyre both alcohol so why the big difference ? Sterno is ok for some cooking and warming but it seems like flames from alcohol should be equal.
You got me. Sterno is denatured alcohol and jellied alcohol. Maybe the jellied alcohol consumes some of the energy to get it to burn? You'd think the methanol would make up for it.
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