Welp... I've had it.

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Originally Posted by Flavor Bear

That's a given. From now on I'm getting drunk at home like a respectable alcoholic. I was paying attention and taking all the care I would walking through the city sober, actually. Avoiding the dark underpasses, careful on the curbs, no eye contact with the crazies, I had all my mental faculties about me, just not the physical ones.
And the one precaution I did take paid off. I left my knife at home because I didn't want to mess around with it while I was out drinking. If I had it, I probably would have pulled it and the guy probably would haven taken it and stabbed me.

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the key if drinking in the city is to get a buzz, but not get drunk. Learn how to maintain that buzz. I'd rather be drunk stumbling around a camp site where the biggest danger is falling into that big glowing hot orange thing over there than drunk walking around the city where there are all kinds of predators about. And no offense, but if you were drunk enough to not have your physical faculties about you, I seriously doubt you had full use of your mental faculties, either.

WE - That's why the rest of CCW!

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Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper

the key if drinking in the city is to get a buzz, but not get drunk. Learn how to maintain that buzz. I'd rather be drunk stumbling around a camp site where the biggest danger is falling into that big glowing hot orange thing over there than drunk walking around the city where there are all kinds of predators about. And no offense, but if you were drunk enough to not have your physical faculties about you, I seriously doubt you had full use of your mental faculties, either.

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Well, this is what happens when the rube goes for "al-kee-hall" in the city.
Because I really don't know how to be drunk in the city, that's true.

But you try and say no to beer that other people are paying for.

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Originally Posted by wareagle69

have the 1000 yard stare

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haven't heard that term in a long time. My DI's used it if you were spaced out and staring off into the void, though.

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Originally Posted by Flavor Bear

Well, this is what happens when the rube goes for "al-kee-hall" in the city.
Because I really don't know how to be drunk in the city, that's true.

But you try and say no to beer that other people are paying for.

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lol. Not calling you a rube, dude. Just saying, when I was in my late teens I used to run around half blitzed. Spent many nights talking to cops because of it. I'm a good fighter anyway, as I enjoy it, so I can usually hold my own even if I am falling down drunk against one or two guys. However, before I was even able to hit the bar scene legally I came to the same realization that Wareagle pointed out earlier; I don't like not being in control of myself. So if I do choose to drink, I do it lightly. Was just trying to pass on some wisdom that took a couple nights in a drunk tank and some fines for agg. assault to figure out and make stick. :)

I've never bought into not looking others in the eyes. I look all in the eyes, kind of keeps them a little edgy.

Reasons I don't drink at home. I have two 5 year olds, if something happens, I want to be able to react.

Reasons I don't drink in public. I have two 5 year olds, a wife, I am the only money earner in the family and the last fight I got in, almost lost my freedom and it cost a good bit of money.

One other reason I don't drink. Alcoholism runs in my family.

So, I go through life enjoying it sober. All the while, laughing at those that need alcohol to socialize.

As Sgt Major Daniels use to say, "if you want to get high, go run 3 miles or swim a mile."

Nah, I was calling myself a rube. The folks I was drinking with were calling me a rube.

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Originally Posted by FVR

So, I go through life enjoying it sober. All the while, laughing at those that need alcohol to socialize.

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I'm pretty much of the same mindset, I rarely drink. Which is why I was much more intoxicated than my brother who keeps a few handles of vodka stocked in his fridge at all times.

I just don't look the crazies in the eyes. Make eye contact and they'll think you want to talk to them.

flavor bear you just said something that doesn't sit well with me you said try saying no to people buying the beer. it's easy just say no and mean it, i have never fallen for peer pressure if you don't like how i live my life then you don't get to be my freind not the other way around, stand up hold your head high and be your own man people will respond to that.

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Originally Posted by wareagle69

flavor bear you just said something that doesn't sit well with me you said try saying no to people buying the beer. it's easy just say no and mean it, i have never fallen for peer pressure if you don't like how i live my life then you don't get to be my freind not the other way around, stand up hold your head high and be your own man people will respond to that.

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What I meant is that I am a cheap opportunist. I'm a stubborn SOB, I don't fold for anyone.

there ya go then good for you..

I stopped drinking many years ago. I will now and then but never to excess. Out of all the guys and gals that I worked with I was the only one that didn't drink. It was available, it was free (the company picked up the tab) but I still chose the diet coke or an O'Doul's because I do like the taste of beer. I know there were nights I had way more fun watching them make fools of themselves or trying to keep them out of trouble. And I KNOW I felt a whole lot better the next morning. (I actually got out of a couple of financial presos because the boss was sick the next morning! Sweet!).

You don't see anything wrong with talking to mentally unbalanced homeless people?
And I'm the one who was unprepared for an urban environment?

hey at one time i resembled that remark mr

You raise a good point, remy. I don't think I've ever heard anyone referred to as "mentally balanced with home".

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Originally Posted by Flavor Bear

Yeah, an environment where the streets are filled with hundreds of other bar patrons milling about. He didn't pick up on anything, he was just some teenage ***** who went after the smallest guy around. The guy who fell on his car was 6'4 and strapping.

Society is entirely to blame as far as I'm concerned. That is, the upper echelons of society where the most privileged have a sense of entitlement that makes them think they don't have to treat others with any amount of respect.

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well bet next time you will be more aware and you say that he was trying to pick on (the small guy) and not trying to tangle with a bigger man well thats life as we know it happens in the wild also so get ya some training and remember what happens when you drink to much
sry that stuff gets my goat dont run do something to make shure your not a victim dang use this as motavation to DO something not complain cuz next time it could be worse

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Originally Posted by remy

By the way...when was the last time you heard of a "mentally unbalanced homeless" kill someone like you ?

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Admittedly not often, but that's not to say they don't bite or shank people.
Which I hear about frequently.

They aren't house broken either.

My philosophy, treat everyone with respect.

The "crazy's and homeless" don't know their story, have not walked in their shoes. Who am I to judge.

Back in my younger, dumber days I guess I hit every bar in most towns, especially Baltimore (loved the Block) and 14th St., NW in DC. One below Quanico in Woodbridge named Caesars that a lot of Marines fresh out of boot thought they were tough. You gotta know when to keep your mouth shut and you can't get so drunk you lose it. If you can't hold it, don't drink it. I have been in a few, none that I started, but didn't wait for the other guy, I liked the big thick ashtrays myself and always had men with me that I could count on. If you see you are gonna tangle don't wait, use anything you can get your hands on and don't carry in a bar. If you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch.