MOON Landing FLAG. ROTFLMAO Too fake!!!

Please....I hope that nobody buys into the Rosie argument that fire can't melt steel. Steel is born of fire and can certainly be melted by it. http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html The properties of an accelerant and the temperature that it burns at are only part of the equation. That's what starts the fire. Think of a coal fire......add a bellows.....get the picture. Another example that is etched clearly on my mind is the shipboard fire fighting training that I have done. A small half gallon container of diesel fuel with a rag hanging out of it lit on fire. Smokes like heck. Once the hull insulation caught on fire (less than 60 seconds) the temperature of the compartment went from 100 degrees to over 2000 degrees. It wasn't the temp of the diesel, but everything that was burning.

If Rosie O'Donnell told me I had a crack in my @$$, I wouldn't believe her.

I just offer to let them stand in a room with a thermometer. I'll pour gasoline all around the room and toss a match on my way out. When it's done burning, they can tell me how hot it REALLY got inside the room.

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Originally Posted by Rick

I just offer to let them stand in a room with a thermometer. I'll pour gasoline all around the room and toss a match on my way out. When it's done burning, they can tell me how hot it REALLY got inside the room.

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Gasoline, Your thinking to small scale rick, We need to open a bucket of sunshine up in there and see how hot it gets

God people are dumb.

You can get a power telescope and see the moon landing site, do you disagree with your own eyes?

Likewise, idiots like Jesse Ventura who claim a third building went down on 911 that didn't get hit by a plane... well **** Jesse, do you think maybe, just maybe, the combined concussive force of 2 100+ story massive skyscrapers probably including millions of tons of building materials falling to the ground could possibly weaken the structural integrity of a building right next door? That is like saying an asteroid falls to earth and hits one building and thinking there is a conspiracy because the building next door goes down too.

Then people saying you cannot melt steel. Dude, a ****ing jet flew into the buildings and you think they shouldn't have fallen? Do you live in a trailer in some patch of wilderness and have never seen a jet up close? Do you not know how big they are? Did you flunk out of school before taking any science class where they teach you that force is mass x acceleration? Do you not know how fast jets fly? I think it is amazing it took a couple hours for them to fall. And then again, after the first one fell, don't you think all that mass crashing to the earth right next door probably contributed to the second one falling?

The simplest answer is most often the correct one. What do you think is more likely? There is a vast government conspiracy to kill our own citizens and crush our economy to get foreign oil we could have had at the drop of the hat? And that all the thousands of people who had to be involved have kept their mouth shut? Or that a couple ticked off muslims hijacked some jets and flew them into a building?

It also pisses me off when people start claiming it is all about foreign oil. Read a book, educate yourself, don't get your news or history from people like Michael Moore, Rosie ODonnel, Sean Penn, etc. Morons.

Do you not remember anything that happened in the 90s or up until 911? Nothing at all, selective amnesia? Do you not recall that there was an Iraqi oil embargo, the only oil out was allowed through an oil for food program? Even so we were still getting Iraqi oil, you can look it up. Even in 02, we were getting Iraqi oil. Do you not recall that France & Russia, who had sweetheart deals with Saddam, twice tried to get the UN to repeal the embargo, twice, to be vetoed by us and the British? All we had to do if we wanted more Iraqi oil, of which we were already getting much, is to allow them to repeal the embargo. We didn't though, because Saddam was shooting missiles at our fighters patrolling the UN mandated no fly zones on a more or less daily basis. Additionally, as the only sitting country head in the world who had used weapons of mass destruction in the past (google Anfal), we feared giving Saddam more money would just lead to more genocide in his country.

Furthermore, all US oil imports are a matter of public record, and while we do get a good deal from the Saudis (as the world's biggest oil reserve, it'd be hard not to), in general our oil comes from other places. Why? Well, the middle east is far away. We get oil from Nigeria, which is decently far, but a straight shot across the Atlantic, canada, mexico, venezuela, etc etc. You can look it up. http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petro...istorical.html

And yet idiot Charles Rangel, the democrat from the asylum, went on the Today show when Nigeria was having civil unrest and said "If Nigeria had oil we'd be there already." I wanted to kick him in the head. Ditto for places like Venezeula, etc. People say our foreign policy is entirely predicated upon oil, and yet.... Obviously not. The international community begged for months for us to get involved in Nigeria, I think eventually we did send like 200 peacekeepers, but we certainly were not in a hurry. We get a ton more oil from Nigeria than Iraq, and have for many years.

Anyways. This forum is not meant for this kind of discussion. I'm closing this thread and any more like it that pop up are going to be closed, and the thread starters may get banned. No more politics, no more religion. If you want to go talk crazy conspiracy theories and government hate, I think Moveon.org has a forum, you'll find more of your ilk there.

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Originally Posted by BraggSurvivor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fCxRQJS9M

Defies logic, no atmosphere. No wind.

Conspiracy? :D:D

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It was actually filmed by Elvis Presley, Bruce Lee, John Kennedy, the other gunmen on the grassy knoll, Adolph Hitler, John Lennon........:rolleyes::eek::D