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Maybe in the distant future the Cockroach and Rat will become the new intelligent species on this Planet.
You can only wonder if they would do a worse job than we did.
In the meantime, the good news is that "The Survivalist's Rat-N-Roach Cookbook" is now available on Amazon...... Bon Appetite !!
I have no doubt the planet would be a healthier place if this did happen, humans are so smart they are stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kudos
Still amazes me the lengths people would go to to prepare for armaggedon of sorts but ignore the simple life changes that would ensure they survive things that are actually in their power to survive.
I just don't get it, I really don't.
So.....even if I knew that a nucular winter was coming.....would be no time to do anything about it at this point.... as most anything that is cultivated need 50- 90 days for harvest anyway........Are you gonna be able to last that long....starting today?
It about 0 degrees today.....so if not prepared for temps, ...shelter/clothing....water in 3 days, food there after......gonna be kinda out of resources.
I'm thinking that I spending my resources to cover,.....storms, (normal) fire, power outage, supply breakdown, sickness, and the stuff I can realistically prepare for.....
A lawn chair and some brewskies will cover anything else.
Me thinks too many people are living the dreams of movies and novels and oft ignoring reality.
It is always good to have an "exit" plan.
So are you one of those "BOB and Black Rifle" guys that are going to be marauding the countryside looking for other people's supplies, or somehow planning on moving in? Neither will probably go over too well in your post-apocolyptic world.Quote:
Another consideration, I will be looking out for places that have lights on and the smells of cooking, wood stoves etc. as will most everyone else...Jus' Sayin'
My exit plan is pretty simple. Here today, dead tomorrow. I'll let others take care of the leftovers.
Seriously though, in such a situation, I think I'd rather just hoard, huddle, and wait. Even nuclear winters pass.
That, or all learn to live off mycoprotein (food you don't need sunlight to make).
Then there are fish, if only blue light gets through the atmosphere or whatever, guess what? It is also the only light that penetrates deeply into the water so most aquatic plants that don't reach the water's surface are used to photosynthesizing mostly just it. So the kelp will still grow, and the fish will still eat the kelp.
Yep. I swallowed a nickle once and the Dr. said this too shall pass. Nuclear winters will too. I didn't look for that nickle. I know some of you were wonderin'.
Hmm. I second the thought of raiding local tanning salons. Or, you could just get a bunch and set some aside, just in case :)
You could also grow things that do not need UV light... mushrooms come to mind. I would imagine there would be plenty of wild game to be harvested in this type of event, as they would all be dropping dead with nothing to eat.
Rick: you have been ruled dead in this scenario. Three times your responses doomed you to certain death. As an admin you should have embraced the scenario and shown the troops how a pro does it.
Heres the deal; you are in a situation of finding electricity to farm, or you and your family are dead. A true survivalist would find it. Nature does not negotiate.
Ps: venus is in a perpetual nuclear winter. There are no nukes on venus.
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Originally Posted by hunter63
What is the point of prepping if it only means you will die a year later than everyone else? I raised the gardening issue because following a nuclear winter there would be no seed left. Hopefully the masses starved before they used all the gas so you can still run some lights. Or.......
Solar cells would still work in a nuc winter. While the clouds would ruin grow spectrum light, it would still leave some usable photons for solar power. Maybe not as fast as nomal, but you take what you can get.
You missed it. The masses starved. That means you and me. We aren't immune to whatever hits "the masses". So, yeah, like a pro, I accepted my fate in a manly way. Head on and without regret.
Unless you had seeds saved.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyOh
Heard of this place?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault
I think the seed vault is awesome! What could an average person do for long-term seed storage? Just stick 'em in the freezer? Maybe in mylar bags with o2 absorbers? I normally have seeds left over every year (my eyes are bigger than my garden, unfortunately).
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Originally Posted by Chris
You can put them in the fridge. You need a place that is cool and dry and the fridge is perfect for that. I've had seeds remain viable for 4-5 years or longer keeping them in the fridge. You will begin to lose some individual seeds after that long but a lot will still be fine.
CThere we go! Chris hit the nail on the head. We prep like crazy but what about renewable resources? Do you have any idea how easy it is to sock away a couple of bottles of hydroponic solution and some essential gear to farm in the house. Keep in mind that 2 of the worst disasters in recorded were famines. India lost a mission or more due to the east india trading ********, and ireland had the potato famine (once again brought to us by the Brits)
If something happens like venezuela, you will need to supplant your diet, but covertly or people will come for your crops. Just imagine the results of a wintertime embargo by a few of our trade nations. We could be seriously ****ed. In the indian famine, the people starved while east india trading company continued to export food stuffs out of india (when all was said and done the EITC actually pulled a profit despite killing some 1.2 million locals)
As for ricks question about electricity...i have solar power. 48 panels cover my roof and almost completely offset my electrical bill. In the winter i bank energy with the power company, then when summer comes around i use it up (and a little more.) My folks have generators and i can built a windmill generator out of an old electric motor. There are dozens of ways to find energy if u really need it.
Dude we can be blamed for so many things that are biting western culture if not the world in the arse its just not funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyOh