No and why do you think I need to?
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No and why do you think I need to?
LOL I probably put in that many miles a day in my job...need to get a pedometer:eek:
Depends on terrain and weather. Honestly, 15 no problem, 30......I wonder.
we've heard from the pro's(good dvice and ideas) and we've heard from the joes(you know who you are)
frv thats what i like about you we agree on the over dependance mentally on the edged pacifyer, i do agree that i would bee naked if w/o a knife but trying to get ppl past the idea that sh.. happens and what would you do if? they can't do it.
now in that situation if hikiing in my terrain, there is plenty of deadfall, would be easy enough to build a lean to. if a light rain there should be enough dry wood around to start a fire, even some damp/green stuff would be good to help signal rescue.
pack wise if i was going out for a 30 mile trek i would bring my overnight set up never know could develop a serious blister to slow me down or come across some one else in need of help or most likely just don't want to come back, i have a 24hr plan with my wife if i don't show up tonight don't worry maybe found something i wanted to explore.
also with cell phones it is really hard to find an area where you won't have a signal, unless your trek is up everest or the middle of the amazon or the sahara but then it wouldn't be just a day hike.
even on just an overnighter i have bought a outer shell for my bag that is water proof so i could just jump im curl up and sleep with the moose.maybe norm will find me and rescue me..
Wareagle: There are plenty of places that don't have cell signals: forests, national parks, BLMs. Just about every time I go out I lose cell service.
i agree but then to me you are going out on more than just a day hike, we have places up here when you go in you may not see any on for the whole trip and every summer some one paddles out for 3 to 4 to 5 days looking for help, but fvr scene suggested to me a day hike. at least up here i would have coverage unless i drove 3hrs north then went hiking. but i see your point
About half of my road has no coverage,it really sucks to pay that much and cant depend on it if something happens on my way to work (3:30 in the morning usually) so I have a cb back up also,but that only works if there is someone out there with their "ears" on.
Here is actually alot of area in this county with no coverage,grrrr.
I lose my verizon signal across the street. When I go back into Pine Log, it's gone most of the time, unless I climb Hanging Rock or Pine Log Mnt.
Cells are great, but they should not be 100% depended on.
Man, I need to get out.
I have verizon also FVR,totally unreliable as far as I am concerned,and I pay about $150 a month for the luxury of not being able to talk to someone,or only being able to hear about half the conversation through the static.
You can take a day hike, backpack or just cruise along skyline drive in your car at Shenandoah and you won't be getting any cell service. Your phone is worthless there.
From the nps site.
No visitor facilities are staffed on the mountain from December until late March. Although Skyline Drive is normally open 24 hours a day, severe weather may necessitate closure at any time. Skyline Drive is also closed from dusk to dawn during deer hunting season, mid-November to early January.
* Be sure your gas tank is full before you enter the park.
* Have warm clothing and/or blankets in case your vehicle becomes disabled. You may have to wait for assistance.
* Cell phones do not work from many areas in the park. Leave an itinerary with someone at home.
In Shenandoah, your phone is just added worthless weight in your pack, regardless of the fact that one is in a massive population center.
Nell,
Actually, verizon over here in Ga is far better than all the others. I've had three other services off and on, and I can't even get service at my house. Many who visit, don't have service here.
FVR,
Same here,but I still cant get reliable service from them ,although they are far better than the others,they just do not have full coverage in this area,and in my house,(yup a mobile home) reception is pretty much limited to 1 room in my house,the bathroom!
Stop it! You guys are making me all weepy eyed. I retired from Verizon (land line company). Cell phones use a radio frequency that is line of sight. That means a direct path from your phone to the tower. Place something in between, a building or a mountain for example, and the signal strength goes down or disappears all together. Your cell phone must communicate with the cell tower. What I mean is there is a two way conversation going on between the tower and your cell phone. "Are you there?" "Yeah, I'm here" sort of a conversation. And they communicate on different frequencies. Your cell phone receives on one frequency and transmits on another. If anything interrupts either frequency, guess what? No dial tone. Here's a wiki article on line of sight radio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of...ork.2C_then.3F
Here's a nice article on urban problems associated with cellular but the same applies to those of you in the sticks.
http://scienceline.org/2007/04/13/te..._phone_signal/
If you are on the outer fringes of reception, you could consider a cellular repeater. They are expensive, however. Typically in the $900 range. The are most often used inside large office buildings but can be used in a home as well. Here's a link that explains them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_repeater
Ooops. Forgot to add. I agree with Frank. Cell phones are great safety devices but not the be all, end all for safety and security.
:pHey Rick? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW???:p
I .....can.....you sound ......fine ......me.
yup that is exactly what it sounds like:mad:
yep you can have 'em Sarge,just make sure you are in range before you break down,or have some other kind of trouble!