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No specific time or place in mind other than the woods miles away from a town. I'm trying to get some ideas for a pocket survival kit. you never know when or what events could take place where you would be forced to survive with only what you have on you.
I don't think I have a lack of imagination, and I do my level best to not place myself in a survival situation. Personally I would not be driving a vehicle without supplies. On top of that, the best shelter you probably have if you do break down is your vehicle. I think I understand what you are looking for though, and that's cool. This thread contains a lot of information about survival kits....some big....some small. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1256Quote:
Originally Posted by minuteman
I agree that nature provides, however with a few items surviving in the wild might be little easier and more barable. Out of curiosity what type of hunting weapons have you made with out cordage or with out a knife? I know there are ways. Did you flint knap a blade and use some type of vegetation for cordage. How did you acquire food? wild edibles or hunting game? Have you actually survived this way? or just making false claims? If you can do what you claim, please share in more detail how you accomplished those things. Thanks
I spent a weekend camping and had the opportunity to meet Erunkiswldrnssurvival. It is my opinion that he is very knowledgeable about wild edibles and making things in the wilderness.
Sounds cool. A true survivalist can do just that, live off mother nature. I havn't quite reached that point yet, but I will. Until i learn to flint knap I will keep my pocket knife. I plan on attending a survival school in the near future. Years ago I found myself in a survival situation and know how difficult it can be surviving in the wilderness without much, but that it can be done. I don't try to put my self in survival situations, but to be prepared for one if it does happen. Case and point; the mind is ultamatley your best tool. Thanks
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Originally Posted by minuteman
So maybe I don't understand.....To me you are saying survive for how long .....38 years...? With just the stuff in your pockets you can survive for only 29 years. I mean surely you not talking just six months right. We are talking 30 or 40 years....right.....??????
I learned what off grid Really, really means. So what do you mean when you say survive....? How many years....come on...???
Honestly, true to myself, I believe I have the knowledge to at least survive in northeastern woodlands without anything. I have a few years experience with flintknapping and almost all of the primitive wilderness survival skills. Im an efficient hunter and gather to. As with Jungle/ Desert/ Tundra, im not so sure, I have never lived in this type of terrain so I have more expierience with forest.
well minuteman (hope you didn't get that ten dollar handle from a female) most of us folks here would never be caught w/o a kit in the vehicle especially driving down a counrty road miles from nowhere thats why we all belong here
second what i carry on my belt and in my pockets would get me thru most situations the favorite tool i would say being my pocket sized folding sierra saw can get good sized wood with it for shelters and fires next would be my swedish firesteel, then my fixed blade buck knife my leatherman wave is useful but more for work that survival but thats just me
What part of the world?
What type of terrain?
What weather conditions?
What length of time?
If you are going to ask a question like that at least provide some parameters!
I smell a NUMPTY! NO! I have NEVER been in a "Survival Situation"! Why would I want to?:confused: I stay prepared enough that the odds of that ever happening are very remote; which is what ANY Survival school will teach you!Quote:
Originally Posted by minuteman
I think you're talking through your hat!:cool:
sarge even the prepared can end up in a survival situation. really old timer ya gotta reign it in sometimes, being prepared just means you have a better chance of making it thru the emergency better
When I go out of the house I carry my 72 hour pack. Listed below are things that are in it. Critique it if you'd like, I prefer it actually. I've needed this on more then one occasion and it's saved my rear!
72 Hour pack B.O.B. (bug out bag)
To be packed in a civilian type backpack or military style assault pack. Subdued in color, black is acceptable.
1.Poncho liner or tarp: one or both, these will be your 3-day sleeping bag/ shelter.
2.Space blanket or casualty blanket or both.
3.Lensatic compass w/pouch: USGI
4.Face paint camo: 2 colors, civilian or USGI type
5.Individual First Aid Kit: 1 tourniquet, 2 field dressings (pressure bandages) 1 sm roll adhesive tape, 6 assorted Band-Aids, 1 sm tube antibiotic ointment 1 bottle over the counter pain reliever. Additional items such as triangular bandages are highly recommended. ****I actually carry more than this****
6.550 cord: 2, 50' foot lengths or 100' minimum
7.Gloves: 1, light pair or 1 heavy pair (weather dependant) subdued in color, black acceptable.
8.Combat type knife: 6"-10" inch fixed blade.
9.Hygiene kit: 1 toothbrush, 1 sm tube of paste or powder, 1 roll floss, 1 roll toilet paper, 4oz bottle hand sanitizer, 1 wash cloth, 1 sm to med towel (both subdued in color) and 1 pack disposable unscented towelettes.
10.Fire starting equipment: 2 bic lighters or similar, 1 sparking device, 4oz of pre-made tinder in waterproof container.
11.Utility Pot: Canteen and cup.
12.Water Carrier: 2 one quart canteens or 64oz Camelback
13.Rations: 4 full 2,000 calorie meals. MRE's or homemade.
14.Small mirror: 2"x 3" min. For signaling or hygiene use.
15.Clothing: 2 pair socks, 1 worn 1 in pack. 2 t-shirts, 1 worn 1 in pack. 1 full BDU uniform (woodland camo), 1 top 1 pants 1 boonie type hat (can be what you are wearing but not recommended) 1 pants belt. 1 pair boots, Gortex lining recommended, subdued in color. 1 M-65 Field jacket (liner optional)
16.Flashlight: 1 with red, blue and green lenses. Extra batteries.
17.Documentation: personal I.D. (optional) 2 black or blue pens, sm notepad, Michigan road map. (store in zip lock bag)
18.Other inclement weather gear: Can consist of any cold/wet gear determined essential by weather projections for 72 hours and must be carried on person or in pack.
19.Other optional items: 1or 2 smaller pocket knives, digging tool (e-tool or garden trowel), any prescribed meds, small hand crank radio, 1 sm eye dropper bottle of iodine, 1 12"x12" heavy duty clear plastic sheet, sleeping bag (proper for weather conditions, must be able to secure to pack) 1 sleeping pad. 1 survival fishing kit.
I also carry a couple of those $1.00 type poncho's in blaze orange for emergencies if I'm lost and need to be found.
The only thing i might say against you kit is that you dont seem to be packing much spare clothing. Only 1 pair of socks and 1 t-shirt seem to be spares. For 72 hours that to me could pose a problem. What if you fell in a lake or similer ? You would have nothing but wet clothes other than a pair of socks (Cant ever be too much of these) and a dry t-shirt to change into (which would only get damp from the wet clothing placed on top of it.)
Just my thoughts.
Why the camo face paint?
Because he's a ninjaQuote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
I don't know. Ninja's don't need no shtinkin face paint!
Because the guys in the movies wear it???Quote:
Originally Posted by mitch.chesney
I dunno... when adding facepaint to your BOB is like saying, "CNN just said the bomb's been dropped. Time to put on the warpaint!" I'd rather have the extra hundred or so .22 rounds.
.......or it could be payback. "Hang on Honey, I'm putting my face on."
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Originally Posted by mitch.chesney
Yeah, that's right! How did you know? This pack serves a few different purposes. I use alot of this stuff when I'm out hunting. I use the face paint for breaking up my BIG WHITE FACE. Your face and hands are very visible if left uncovered (like ya'll didn't know)
Mitch.Chesney says-"I'd rather have the extra hundred or so .22 rounds. "
I deleted that part out of the list for posting. I carry plenty of ammo for my rifle and/or sidearm. The camo compact is very small and takes up virtually no space. I carry a bit bigger rifle than a .22.
Is that all you guys do is bust b@lls or what?
When I asked why you carry it, I was quite serious. We've had some come here and tell us all about their plans to bug out or in set up some sort of military command post and kill everything in sight. The other side of that was camo for hunting.Quote:
Critique it if you'd like, I prefer it actually.
Don't think anybody was doing that, but rather having a little fun with my question.Quote:
Is that all you guys do is bust b@lls or what?
Yea, if we were really busting balls, you'd know it. Anyone care to link back to our two friends who wanted to go into the bush with just a knife? lol
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Originally Posted by crashdive123
Nope, not planning on setting up a military style compound and killing everything in sight. I use it for primarily hunting purposes. Unless of course I have to hide for some reason?
OK then. Looks pretty good. Might I suggest adding some $$$, or at least a roll of quarters?
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Originally Posted by crashdive123
Never thought of that, that's good idea. Thank you.
I'm gonna use this as an opportunity to say what I keep on me at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by minuteman
Clothes!!! unless of course I'm taking a shower or :eek: never mind.
Riggers belt
Leatherman supertool 2000
3wat led flashlight
Benchmade folding knife with 2 3/4" blade
Dakota carabiner watch
Very small swiss army knife (for cleaning fingernails and picking teeth)
Rediedge knife sharpener
Cell phone
Firesteel
Chapstik
Wallet
Keys
I'm beginning to dislike the term "survival kit"! I don't carry a survival kit with me every waking moment.
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Originally Posted by minuteman
NO Problem.......I NEVER...EVER....have any survival stuff in my pockets. Pockets are for earplugs and ammo....period. I have survived just fine for 62 years, with empty pockets.
must not be a plumber:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by klkak
kevin the term survival is commercial to me. even i the great eagle in the beginning bought many an item with the word survival in it it caught my eye and like two moose making love under a full moon i would just stop and look and the usually buy witht the thought of using or reading someday
hope don't take this the wrong way cuz i like you i really do but for some reason latley(must be the time of year) i keep pictureing you as ebenezer scroooge(or even scrouge mcduck)Quote:
Originally Posted by hopeak
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Originally Posted by wareagle69
Just telling it like it is. I kind'a feel like a trader to the forum. But I have never packed survival gear day to day. And I think people with multiple survival gear neck-less, plus an in back-pocket kit, plus belt kit, and maybe stuck in their.....:eek:...Need some help. You don't need multiple on'body kits.
Having survival gear on a boat, car, aircraft or in-home makes sense. Maybe even one small kit on you.
However some of these people are sleeping and showering in full battle dress, complete with pistol, 24/7.
In full disclosure: I hoard food, not on my person, but I am phobic about lack of food, for that reason I grant you'all survival kit nut'jobs some slack and allow for one on'person kit.
i am not overly fond of the word survival, as i have already stated i have many a time fallen for that marketing ploy, but what i carry at all times on my person or even in my halversack is to me just common sense for someone living the lifestyle that i do, more of a conveniance kit than survival kit
I take what is needed to complete the mission. To the Outhouse I take one roll of butt'wipe and a firearm.
For a 3 hour hike I just carry some extra ammo, and a snickers bar.
For a day hike I take what I might need, depending on time of year, that days weather, etc.
But I do not own a survival kit per'say. I'm going to put some small kit together for my new "Man Purse".:o:o:o
Yeah, I hope Could survive. I keep a Leatherman Micra, Spyderco Endura, Dorcy Flashlight, and about eight feet of paracord.
Given that answer I don't hold out much hope for your chances.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by tacticalguy
My "pocket survival gear"= An old sharp Barlow pocket knife (been with me for 30 years), pipe, tobacco and lighter (yup I am one of "those" smokers). I can sit down when the SHTF, have a smoke, clean my finger nails , study the situation and then act accordingly. No sense hurrying, good things come to those that wait.
This might be prove interesting and maybe a little entertaining, too.
1976...I was about 12 and my "first" survival kit was a metal Band Aid brand rectangular box.
I punched 4 holes thorugh the back of it and threaded paracord (most likey it was cheap cotton cothes line in those days) through the holes to make a "belt loop." I crammed as much "survival gear" into it as a kid could imagine.
In those days, every survival "expert" advised packing those little aluminum foil squares of beef bouillon so I added them along with matches, a candle stub, chapstick, fishing line, hooks, .22 shells to make sinkers, a fire, and a whistle, etc...
It was July/August in eastern Kentucky and I decided to "inventory" my gear. Imagine my surprise to dump out the contents only to find one big nasty, melted glob of semi-useless crap!!!
Thankfully, I grew wiser as the years passed.:D
I'm trying to put my first survival kit together. What I'm looking for, which is probably unattainable, is one that is
1: Comprised of parts that can be found at stores
2: Costs less than $100 dollars
I already have some equipment I carry everyday on my belt, and/or have stashed in my closet including
Gerber multi-tool
Case pocket knife
Inova x5 flashlight
50' 550 para
Swedish Fire-steel
US canteen with little bag cup and cup stand
Gerber fixed blade knife
I know I need alot more stuff, and more importantly knowledge. Thanks in advance,
Matthew
Interesting that you picked $100 dollars. Interesting in that there is a thread about preparing a kit for $100. Here's the link.
I just picked $100 as a nice round sum. I forgot to search for threads I'm sorry, my mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
As I get older I seem to forget more.:eek: Try this one.:D http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=4953