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I feel my point was lost...I mean there' s 32 pages of this...
I think you mean 33! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by trax
See that! It's your fault!
On a serious note (who would've thunk it)....those two shows, and others like them are probably what drive quite a few people to this site, so naturally there will be a lot of discussion on the shows.
i like both the thing about bear is he shows you the army way of survival like you need to be always on the move and not stay in one spot for too long and move at night, and les shows how to use what you have at that time and just wait if have to move
Well Bear's philosophy is to get out while Les's is more along the lines of staying put and waiting for rescue... or if that's not possible, THEN navigating out. But Bear takes this to the extreme by rappelling off cliffs, crossing lava bridges (WTF!! Some kid might imitate this! WTF were they thinking), etc.
rather like the wolf mills episode of running around for no apparent reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by yukon55
This show is on at 7:00 on channel 411 on bell express view every day. just to let some of you know. the channel is called OLN i belive.
Channel 441....? That must be an "AM" Radio station right. But my radio only goes down to 500 AM.....do you have a special radio.....?
nope. bell express view. Satelite tv. it is on outdoor life network, and so is man tracker, another favorite.
Wonder whatever happened to that woman from the mantracker show, she quit coming around.
I stopped watching Man vs. Wild last season. Too sensationalized and a bunch of doo-doo. However, before MvW was a show, Bear climbed Mt. Everest at 22 years of age! At the time, he was the youngest Briton to do so. His story recounts the events that took place in 1997, a year after the horrific accident that killed 8 (not sure the number, but many) climbers on Everest. It's a good read. After reading that book, I read Into Thin Air, which is a retelling of the 1996 climb.
While I don't care for his show, Bear Grylls has done some amazing things and I respect him for that.
Has anyone read Les Stroud's book? I just put in a request for it at the library, and I'll be anxious to give it a read.
I just finished Les' book. I thought it was pretty good. Lots of good info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurelius95
I really don't want to bust too many bubbles here but it takes money to climb Everest. I did it in my early thirties. If a person has money, is in halfway decent shape, and wants to go, they can. While yes, there is danger, it's not the feat we like to think it is. The mountain is mainly a garbage dump now and not as dangerous to climb as many other much smaller mountains. Climbing it doesn't make anyone a great survivor. It makes them rich enough to afford the oxygen supply to get up there.
shuck
Well said! What's a permit cost to attempt to summit Everest from the same side as Jon Krakouer did today? last I heard it was 50-60 K!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Swamp Shuck
The one mountain I'd like to climb is "Mt. Marcus Baker" In the Chugach range of Alaska. I've looked at it a thousand times and wondered what it would be like to look back from its peak.
could this be true
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSl...eature=related
I remember last fall on one of the main streanm media channels, they said he was sleeping in motels when he was supposed to be sleeping in the jungle
Coincidentally the Jan 2009 Backpacker magazine has a piece covering this very topic.
http://www.backpacker.com/return_of_...n/skills/12479
You'll have to read the article to see what the writer's opinions were. This back-reference might give you a hint as to "who wins" though (heh).Quote:
Originally Posted by that article link
In the Backpacker December 2008 issue there was a quiz question of;
Les Stroud is (blank) as cool as Bear Grylls.
The Backpacker magazine answer was "twice".
This thread is so long that I confess I have no time to read it. Maybe some day......
If you ask me Les is more practical. But hey.to each his own.
Survivorman.
bear is just a big damn fake
les is out there doing the real thing
my 2 cents
Whatever your feelings about either guy, why don't you head on over to the Introduction page, and tell us a bit about yourself?
Bear Gryllis is an idiot and Man vs Wild is barely a survival show... its a drama show. He takes unnecessary risks; he makes things more difficult than they really are; and he misleads you about how to survive in the wild.
Survivorman is more realistic; however, he often makes VERY poor/inadequate shelters or chooses poor locations for shelters. He also, at times, seems to make amateurish mistakes intentionally... when he should be showing the best way to do a particular task. Overall, though, his show is far superior to Idiot vs Wild.
Well, now that you've told us all about them, how about heading over to the Introduction section and tell us about yourself. Thanks.
LOL... done deal! If you want to find more about me, just GOOGLE search my user name: wildography. Or, just ask!Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
i dont like how survivorman ended. i think it was good show. y wood he end it? he only got 3 seasons in i think, thats not that much. he got me into surviving.
I think it was taking a toll on his body half starving every episode.Im wondering if the producers held him back from running a proper trapline.
Soooo, you're saying that prior to watching the show you were just planning on dying?:confused1:Quote:
Originally Posted by polishpunk
no im saying that hes the reason i like to go hiking wenever i can. i still havnt gone out and survived off the land but i want to for the most part
Ya know, I don't know if you're Polish, or just a Numpty! Nobody in their right mind goes out & deliberately puts themselves in a life & death situation, & I don't believe that you will either since, on another thread, you tell us your running away from your girlfriend! Oh you're bad alright!:innocent::cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by polishpunk
Has anyone else watched the Man vs. Wild podcasts? His own podcast debunks any lingering though that he's anything but a stuntman in an outdoors environment. The size of the crew, the number of consultants, the safety measures they take on each sequence has nothing to do with survival in the wild. I used to despise the show, but since figuring out that it's just mindless entertainment, I've actually learned to enjoy it. He's no Survivorman, but once you stop making the comparison and just enjoy it for a stunt show, it's much more palatable.
While I agree with your assessment of the show, what bothers me is that they portray it as something it isn't. Bear is an extermely accomplished individual with skills. Unfortunately, to many that watch the show and do not realize that so much is staged - there is the potential for harm coming to those that try to mimick what they see.
Now THAT'S QUALITY CONTROL! And GREAT Advice!!! :thumbup1:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Les has better technical real world survival skills. Bear is more entertaining I think though.
We'll see which show stays on the longest. That will determine who the survivalist is.:lol:
Yeah at the beginning of the man vs. wild show it says something about it being pretty fake( I forget what it says). I even read an article about him and his crew sleeping in a hotel during a survival week. But you do have to give it to him for eating a nut out of bear feces and drinking his own urine.
Oh, good Heavens, No. That's just crazy stuff. Drinking your own urine is just plain dangerous. Never do that. There is a whole thread on that on the forum. And wait until someone eats an acorn or something out of bear poop and contracts E. coli. If anything, he's getting worse.
That's why many of us intensely dislike M. v. W.; because he shows dangerous examples of what NOT to do.:cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Really? I mean what if it was absolutely necessary? I heard about people doing it in concentration camps, etc. Could you link me to that thread, please. I tried searching a few things but nothing came up at all. If you could go through the trouble it would be much appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Evan - here's a thread where it was discussed. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...drinking+urine
Evan, Bear Gryls probably isn't really drinking it. I'm a magician & we fool people into thinking we do all kinds of crazy crap! Check out the US Army Survival Manual on the home page pf this website! I believe it's chapter 6, it's the chapter on finding water.:cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by evan2