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I was gonna say it,but I thought better of it LOL!
Karate chop a rabbit? Huh! Well what next?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf65
I guess I just don't get out much. I really will have to start watching these shows.
I have been hunting fishing and traping for quite some time and have stayed in the wilds for extended periods of time.I have yet to find
anything in survivor man or man vs wild that would actualy benifit
someone in a true life or death situation.dont believe me ,tell a friend
what your doing get a personal gps locator head out to the nearest
state or national park and try some of those so called survival skills
youll be home by dark with a whole new idea of what SURVIVAL SKILLS
really are.
I can watck the first 2 seasons of man vs. wild and I can watch sivorman any time but man vs. wild is less reelistic because he only has a knife and stuff but not enough to be reelistic. :D
ive heard that 'bear' stays in a hotel every night
Okay, both you guys go back and read the thread. Realistic and hotel are covered....to death....
This link says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j_LkdCt2P8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is
Wow, just wow.
I randomly come upon this page, and had the misfortune to read Elkchsr's post on the previous page, without reading the posts responding to it.
VERY long story short, anxious to see what "Les" said, I read THE ENTIRE THREAD up to the last pages, where I find out he was incorrect
/wrists.
Anyhow, now that I've devoted this much time and effort to this thread, I feel it's my duty and right to register and share my $.02 with y'all.
I'm in advertising, so my survival experience doesn't go much beyond two-week long hikes way back with my father in semi-tramped areas like New Mexico and Suwannee. I'm a pup compared to some of you grizzled vets, but I've spent a lot of time reading countless books on survival, with a focus on North American edible plants, which I've always found fascinating.
Heck, they found me qualified to instruct nature walks at the local YMCA sleepaway camp when I was younger, so I'm not a total babe-in-the-woods.
From advertising standpoints, both Survivorman and Man vs. Wild have a certain implicit agreement with the audience of what will be shown, just from the name - A man roughin' it, going one-on-one with nature.
Les doesn't always make it, but he keeps the agreement clean by sharing everything - the triumphs AND the setbacks - with the audience.
When he steals dog food, he lets you know. When the crew tows his dingy in for the night, he lets you know. Knowledge is power, and he really seems earnest in helping you learn from his success AND failures.
I have to admit, after questioning the show (skepticism) I finally watched it at the urging of a friend, and I am very impressed by the respect Les has not only for nature, but his audience. As long as he keeps to the agreement and continues to show me the truth, I'll be content to call his show the 'true' reality television.
Man vs. Wild, on the otherhand...I see him doing things that no one, in their right mind, under ANY conditions, should ever do.
I mean EVER.
Who climbs down a waterfall? It's not just a bad idea, but it's insulting to ME.
Well, if this thread rises from the dead maybe someone will read this and go
"I see..."
Thanks for the discussion and the interesting links, some of you people seem to have real personalities.
And personality is the #1 most imporant factor in survival :D
Welcome to the forum arpeggio.
i can't believe this thread has over 400+ posts :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I can't say I've ever watched this show all the way through. I've glanced at it for a few minutes while surfing only to comment to my wife that it's basically entertainment and not to be taken seriously.
The other night I was flipping around and caught it for minute only to find the guy on some tropical beach somewhere making some sort of spear gun from the elastic from his Scooby Doo underwear.
Now mind you, my wife thinks it is hilarious that she buys me Scooby Doo boxers as Scooby Doo is one of her favorite old cartoons. When she saw the guy destroying those "Scoobies", she was about ready to write in and read someone the riot act.
"And that's all I have to say about that."
Survivorman is more realistic I think, yet Man vs. Wild is better entertainment. In practicality, I think you can learn a lot from both, however, like I said, in reality I think if you spend your time lost in the wild like Survivorman that you're more likely to survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by mamab
Well first of all Survivorman is more ideal. Everything that Bear (Man vs Wild) does is 100% stupid.
Eating Fish raw is the worst thing you can do! And when it is alive..! Something that no one here has mentioned is that Beqar gets a huge paycheck. I wonder how much money he got for eating that camel crap, or snake, or scorpion!
Survivorman is more ideal for learning. It shows that not everything works out how you planned. Many times what you try to do does fail! Even if you never spent time out in the woods for a night, you'll know that if you just go fishing!
Survivorman's tactics are smart, interesting, and won't get you possible killed (much unlike what Bear teaches you).
What Bear does is going to get you hurt. And if you are hurt in a survival situation you could possible die!
Survivorman is helpful, and Man Vs Wild is ONLY entertainment. I wonder how many digits are in his paycheck...
Omid - Welcome to the forum. How about scooting over to the Introduction section and tells us a little about yourself. By the way, you don't actually think Les does that for free do you? I think there's a little in the way of renumeration for him, too. :D
Has anyone seen Survive Alaska? It was on last night and it stars Les Stroud. Last night's episode covered the cold water dunking we talked about a couple of months ago and had the doctor on the show that gave us the info. There was also a segment about snow shelters. I didn't get to watch all of it but what I saw was pretty good. The snow shelter piece had Les and a native Alaskan (Inuit? I don't know). Anyway, he had frozen white fish and seal oil. He said it didn't create thirst like other meats. The seal oil contained the fat and the frozen white fish contained the protein that you need.
I saw about 5 minutes or less of it. Unless I was watching it for the scenery, I just can't get into something that I know is either phony or staged and trying to be passed off as something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I, personally just can't find any entertainment value in it.
The part I caught last night had a certain ethnic person(s) on there and I find them tromping around in the wild supposedly "alone" or with one or two people, as believable as me going to the south side of Chicago dressed in an Armani suit and making it out with my wallet.
It wasn't trying to pass off as something else. It was an educational show. How to's. That sort of thing. They did some staged stuff like some goofy wreck with a snow machine to show what could happen but then they went into what to look for from natural shelters and the various things you need to know to build a snow cave. It wasn't exceptional show material but it was good and solid.
Didn't mean for my post to come on so strong Rick. My wife hates when I watch t.v. with her because I find every flaw, boo-boo and unrealistic shot that's there and when it comes to any kind of reality or semi reality show, I just shake my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I saw survival Alaska too... There was one built by Survivorman and one build by Man vs Wild.
Ya I remember seeing Survivorman and his crash test dummies under an avalance, etc.
my .02= Gryllis is a whimp. Stroud has the fortitude of an elephant.
Stroud has earned my respect.
Who would have thought these guys would have earned over 400 posts?
i can't beleive this thread is still open
Kind of fun to read through it when you're day dreaming and taking nothing serious.
anyone know when the new season (3) of Survivorman is airing?
les gets my vote for sure not as exciting but more realistic
Man Vs. Wild is a better show IMO. Not as a Survival show in anyway, but Some of what he says is very helpful. The things he does I am not so sure about. This one is for entertainment, anyway. Survivorman is much more realistic and gives more tips. Though, I do find some of the stuff he does really stupid. (Not stupid like Bear, just stupid - like when he wastes his only food as bait)
Bear Gryllis? Entertaining? Stop it! You're killing me.
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The thing that bothers me most about M v. W isn't the fact that he stays in hotels instead of the wilderness, it isn't that he ties up wild animals and then pretends to stalk and kill them, it isn't the fact that when shooting a rapids using inflated pants for floatation but really is wearing a life vest under his shirt......what really bothers me is that alot of what he does is dangerous and stupid, and for the novice that watches the show and says -- "Wow, cool, I think I'll try that".....somebody is gonna die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ameriborn
ok these guys would bo alot better by their viewers (especially the ones who think there's more than about 10% useful info in any given show) if they would at least start out by telling what you should take if you even think there might a chance that your little day hike could quickly turn into a survival situation. common sense ain't so common anymore. and i did see one episode where stroud built his shelter about 5 yards from the edge of a roaring river and it had been raining non-stop since he arrived at the location. that's just asking to get caught in a flash-flood. and lo and behold when he woke up the next morning the river was alot closer than when he went to sleep. i think anyone who has any possiblity of being caught in a survival situation owes to themselves to be as prepared as possible. prior planning prevents piss poor performance as my drill seargent once told me. just my two bits. :cool:
Bear Grills is more daring but not always in a good way. He just shows you how to get out of bad situations. I think survivorman is better.
You seem pretty wise for your years Snakeman. Just remember that a lot of what Bear is doing could put you in danger rather than get you out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by snakeman
one of man vs wilds epsoides i saw a resort in the distances.
probably wasn't all that great of a distance....Quote:
Originally Posted by yukon55
Blasphemer!!!!! Bear mocker!!!!! Dost thou think we wouldst believe thine lies about Brother Gryllis? Hang on......I'm back. Had to bite the head off a wolverine. Where was I..Oh, yeah. Blasphemer!!!!!
yeah i know but it was funny because it was like on the 2nd or 3rd day
Anybody watch the new MvW last night?
Was it on one of them TV thingies, I have no TV. But I have something much better than TV. I have a LIFE. Try it you might like it. How you like them apples.....?
wow 22 pages....
Uh, click on Page 3 of 22? If that's what you're asking.