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...I like the Condom with the Viagra; nice touch.:D The piece of pencil is to write your will. Seriously though, why are we always "downsizing" important gear? Is this a Survival kit for "Yuppies"?:rolleyes: I prefer a day-pack-sized SK if I'm any where out in the woods, even with my car nearby.:cool:
This ain't 10,000 years ago and way I remember it the 300 Spartans lost. Is that lil thing a joke, come on maybe good for GI Joe (kung fu grip included) but wouldn't last a day in the wilderness even in lil ole Ohio.
I try to carry two survival kits, One is a backpack size and then other in a small tin, Also i carry on my person essential items, Compass, map (THE two most important things, knowing your way means not getting lost in the first place) phone, firesteel, some tinder (Charcloth, but cotten balls in petrolium jelly work nice), First aid kit, Whistel (Underated by newbies) and of course kinfe and so on,,,
Go back and read through this thread:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1256
You have a good start but you need a lot more. Greece doesn't have frigid weather but you need a backup to your matches and some other items as well. Read through the post linked above and see if you can't come up with some ideas.
Hey! Maybe Ranger Rick might like this thing if he puts the razor blades back in!:rolleyes: Who was it that posted pictures on this site where they cut the crap out of there hand with a razor-blade? If memory serves me right it was even a "single-edged" razor blade. Also, who remembers that guy who was going to a survival school were all he was going to be able to carry was a match & an egg? we never did hear from him again. Hey, maybe he died....from Sol Manila!:rolleyes:
Strange since we told him how to cook itQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
for the razor blades, just put masking tape on one of hte edges and that will keep it protected and then when you need a sharp side, just put the tape on the old side. granted this kit isnt as inclusive that one should be... but many people just dont want to carry a big bag with them, so somethings better than nothing
Tony, Unfortunately you're right about the Whistle, even if you just drive off the road behind some trees, and somethings wrong, hurt, heart attack, whatever, you can use that Whistle better, longer and louder that your voice. Let alone with the Whistle, 3 blasts and it's a call for help. But I guess newbies think it's not macho.... Newb's, buy a pea less one, it won't freeze up. Smaller kits are not better!!! I have a backpack one, a smaller one (9"W x6"H x 5"W with a detachable shoulder strap, that I carry if I am not going to be far from my van. And always on my belt clip key chain is a small knife, a Sparky 1 fire starter in its leather case with lint in it, a P38 or P51 can opener/striker (it's the most versatile tool there is! see list) a Howler Whistle, and a Photon 2 led. I also always carry either my Wave, or my Junk Yard Dog 2.
Hi again from Greece,
I carefully read your comments. You are helping me and I really thank you.
Gray Wolf: I understant what you say about the whistle. I think there is space in my kit to add a small but powerful one. My kit is not a joke my friend.
Sarge: Of course someone can write his will with the tiny pencil but the size of the 2 pieces of paper is not so small (about 1,5'' x 4''). He can also draw a path, write notes, write a telephone number or an important message if he is wounded. In the next version of the kit i will include a night sky map and instructions (first aid, survival). Also a small paper with personal information like my blood type, telephone number etc. Why you are laughing on the condom?. It is not the first time a condom is included in a survival kit. And I am not downsizing any important gear. The size of the condom is the bigger available!
Christos - Athens
Christos - I think the night sky map is an excellent idea. I have one in my 1010 Pelican kit. I cut it to fit inside the lid. I'm decent at reading the night time sky but a map always helps. I would recommend the Howler whistle. I carry one and it is fairly flat. Whatever you decide on make certain it is a pea less whistle. You can also wrap some duct tape around your pencil so you will have some in tape in your kit.
Yes, I know there are tons of threads about survival kits on this forum, but this one is a bit different. I will start w/ a list of basic items that should be in a survival kit, and you guys tell me what to add / subtract from the list.
I will edit this first post with the suggestions, so instead of having it spread apart in 10 pages on posts, it will be here. This way it will be easier for people so they don't have to read through tons of posts for a good idea of what to include.
Keep in mind that this is supposed to be a basic survival kit, not specified for any circumstance in particular, but something you would keep in the trunk of your car in the event you need it.
Survival kit- Rope
- Fishing line
- Ziplock bags
- Garbage bags
- Waterproof Tarp
- Dried food
- Water purification tablets
- Band-aids, iodine / antiseptic wipes
- Metal cup
- Sunglasses
- Sweatshirt
- Waterproof matches
- Small lighter
- Paper / Pen
- Pocketknife / knife sharpener
- Signal mirror
- Whistle
- Compass / regional & country map
- Paperclips
Again, if you think anything else should be added to the kit, just post and I will gladly add it (unless someone else thinks otherwise, in which I will let you guys debate it out or make a section for "maybe" items)
AP - How is this thread different that all the others? See:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1256
It has 19 pages of information. This thread is a sticky for anyone wanting to know about survival kits.
Besides, every kit is going to be different depending on the person, their activity, level of knowledge and skills, as well as their duration spent in the bush. There is no one perfect survival kit.
Here's the deal, 1st off, you crossed over into another thread trying to insert info about a Survival Kit that belongs under the same "sticky" as the "Wolf-Pack Survival Kit" thread; (see Rick's response on that one.) Next, you say your looking for....what? advice? Comments? ooohing & ahhhhing?:eek: It's a Survival kit and if it works for you then great. Most of us have "been there, done that, got the t-shirt". Don't expect us to all stand up & cheer because you passed "survival kits 101". Also, I wasn't kidding about the condom, but the "Viagra". It's a joke, don't they have humor in Greece? Start paying attention to protocol and 1st read the "sticky" on Survival kits where all these new Survival kit threads are going to wind up shortly. Just jumping into a forum with a topic that's been done to death without properly introducing yourself is considered rude.:cool:
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!! :D
Like Rick says! This stuff is getting old! wading through all the other posts would've had to happen anyway if you're studying. Let's do it right, Ok? You could have added your question on at the end of the "sticky" and nobody would have to go any further than there to respond.:cool:
alright. I suppose you guys have a point. I just thought it would be convenient not to have to go through lots of pages of posts, and have it all be in the first post (I would edit it as other people added stuff) since often threads get off-topic, but oh well.
Threads get off topic in here? Nonsense. :D :D :D Personally, I think the most important item in your "survival kit" is a really nasty attitude about making sure you stay alive, you'll pack what you need if that's your thinking.
Hi Sarge,
I think that now I am in the right thread. Here is a 3rd version of my Smallest Home-Made Survival Kit including fishing lines (thin-thick), 4x fishing hooks, 3x weights and shoap (in aluminium cover). I changed the pencil with graphite wrapped in tape. I included also a photo with everything packed in the small metal box.
About me: - I am 36 and I love outdoor activities. x-scout troop here in Athens now I am spending weekends in sailboat races (participating in the local championship) and flying with gliders.
Of course my kit is not like the survival kits you will find in the survival shops. But it is still very small portable and extremely useful. And you can survive with something like this in the deep forest - a good knife is always needed in any outdoors activity.
But it can be useful also in the city - i have this kit with me every time - because of it's size it will be also useful in the summer where everyone is moving from one beach to the other wearing a short, a t-shirt and holding a packet of cigarettes in his/her hands.
I have it also with me when flying.
Here in Greece where we have a long summer and a very short winter, small forests and water almost everywhere - a kit like this can help very much.
Of course before going out to the wilderness someone may use a bigger survival kit - this is part of the good planning of any outdoors activity. But in everyday life where everything can happen a kit like this can definately save lives.
Have a nice day,
Christos - Athens - Greece
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Please check the v.3 of the Smallest Home-Made Survival Kit
C
You might consider something for water purification. I don't know how clear the streams are in Greece but if water borne illness is a possibility then something like water purification tablets are necessary. I don't think your tin kit is large enough to boil water in (just judging from the pictures).
http://www.aquatabs.ca/
Thank you very much Rick
C
what do you bring in your survival kit, or in your gear that youcan use for survival...
me.
in my kit
emergency rain poncho
emergency shelter
emergency blanket
extra bic lighter, matches, and flint. in different sealed bags
instant light coals(to help start a fire fast in a moist area)
extra maps of the areas i tend to hike(in a sealed bag)
compass
photon light
prusik cord
extra knife
all in a large coffee can that can double as a bowl or cup.
water purification tablets(25 quarts of water worth)
on me or in my bag
slip on shoes(the jail kind). for if i have to walk across a stream, and the rubber soles make a great black signal fire if needed.
Rock climbing shoes (sometimes) same purpose with the signal fire
braided leather belt
7" knife
a inflatable sleeping pad that can fill up to the size of a 6' tube so carie my gear or me across or down streams. allso can be cut open and used as a A frame tent.
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what i plan on getting
loud whistle
multi tool knife
hand ax
YOU?
Since you're new to this forum the proper thread for this post is here:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1256
We've just been down this road with some other new-comers so please understand that redundant threads are not nessesary, OK?:cool: Thanks.
i wasnt asking what to put in a survival kit... i think i know most of what i need.. i was just wondering what kind of unique stuff people useQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarge47
as you said on another thread, learning tricks from people
i like on that site about the trash bags though... i and a friend once hiked up a local mountain. because of our stubbornness we ended up finding ourselves 7 miles from my truck in waist deep snow 1/2 mile from the summit the sun seting and geting cold. our boots at this point were soaked, so we took our boots and socks off. wraped our feet in extra shirts i had then put them in bags... i think if i hadent had those bags we both would have had some minor frost bit
That's been covered and done to death, that's why this thread is going to be merged into the sticky. Everybody's Survival kit is pretty basic except in the areas that are specific to each individuals needs. READ THE STICKY! thanks.:cool:
Having spent countless hours reading about survival kits and what are the best items to have on hand, I have come to the conclusion that not all kits are created equal. Most kits on the market have less then adequate supplies. I came across one kit that I was impressed with because the contents, quality of the items and the pricing. The kit is the Deluxe 2 person kit from http://www.survivalkitsonline.com
One of the most important aspects of a survival kit are quality components, which appear to be lacking in this kit. There are a couple of items in there I might keep as backups but, personally, I'd chuck the rest. Read the book Build the Perfect Survival Kit by John McCann and you'll have a pretty good understanding of what I mean. There is also a ton of information in the other 425 posts on this thread. This type of kit is designed to make money, not keep you alive. But any kit is better than no kit.
You need to go to the introductions section and introduce yourself. Thanks and welcome.
Now I know this was posted quite a while back but Im new to these forums and this is the first Im reading of this. A few weeks ago I went out in the woods behind my house and spent a day and a half just practicing starting fires and building shelters in the cold, rainy, and snowy michigan winter. I used a can (I think it was an empty can of fruit) to boil snow into water and cook rice in. I had almost finished the rice when I got a mouth-full of a chewy white plastic like stuff and I looked down to see that the bottom of the can was full of it. There was no sign of it being there before, infact, I had boiled water in it twice and changed the water just to make sure it was sanitary before I cooked the rice, yet, apparently, it didn't remove this "plastic". I haven't had any ill effects ( that I am aware of ). So is it harmful that I may have consumed it? How do I avoid this if I end up needing to use a can as an improvised pot in the future?Quote:
Originally Posted by carcajou garou
From the numbers I've read, about 85% of cans made today have a thin polymer applied to the inside of the can to prevent the contents from reacting with the can. Acid foods, like tomatoes, generally have a white polymer applied. However, depending on the manufacturer and the type of can the polymer (some manufacturers like Ball or Rexam call it a lacquer) can be a transparent film.
The next time it is convenient compare a can of green beans to something like tomatoes and you'll see the difference. Same with acidic fruits. Without the polymer, the acid will corrode the can over time.
Even aluminum beverage cans use a spray on film to prevent the can from influencing the taste. Us old guys can remember tinny tasting beer from the old metal cans.
I have no idea what effects ingesting the polymer would have. I doubt you would actually digest it since it is a plastic base. It will probably pass on through.
The only thing I would ever use a food or beverage can for is to boil water. Never to cook in. I won't even heat a can of beens on the fire because of the coating. As you've learned, the water prevents the film from becoming hot enough to melt but cooking food inside a can will transfer the heat into the polymer and cause it to melt.
I don't think the same is true of coffee cans but that's only from my personal inspection and I haven't seen anything in writing one way or the other. I use my mess kit and/or canteen cup to cook in.
If I were in a survival situation I guess I would burn the inside of the can first to try and melt any coatings and burn it away. Not even sure that would be a good thing. But I'd rather eat soot and residue than the actual plastic coating.
Here's a site that offers a video showing how the film is applied:
http://www.rexam.com/sectors/index.a...4&sub=internal
I've heard that flipping the can upside down and burning out the plastic is the was to go.
I use a Heineken pot for cooking and it has a plastic liner in it. I never have had any problems with it melting. Two things will cause that plastic to melt... no water in the pot or the pot got to hot. If you have thick soup and do not stir it, can cause an air bubble in the bottom of the pot. Which will cause the plastic to burn. I have been using my Heineken pot for several months with no problems. Have heard of people using the same Heineken pot for ten years with no problems.
I have a Heineken can sitting on the bar. I just whacked the top off it to take with me on my next outing. I wanted to try it out. Did you wrap yours with wicking or did you leave it "factory"?
I wrapped it with wicking. I you don't have wicking material, use a glove.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
I cook the Freezer bag method, so I only boil hot water in my pot. This cuts down on the chance of burning my pot and no cleanup. The only cleanup I have is wiping my spoon off and folding up my freezer bag. Then putting them back in my pack.
Thanks! Good info. I had read about the freezer bag method some time back but had forgotten about it. As I indicated above I won't cook food in any type of can but will boil water. The freezer bag solves all those issues. Good stuff!
Don't you carry any fire starters? ....just kidding... Nice set up. What kind of can opener is that? I've never seen one like it.
I see these long handled p-38 can openers at most stores that carry out-door/ camping gear. Around $1 each. Good leverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Hey Remy, (hope I spelled your name right) what do you use for a water container?
Thanks Guys, I feel a little better knowing that. I suppose I can avoid this in the future by cooking my rice on the stove ( although I like the smokey flavor ). Guess I can just use a pot. Also I was just wondering if anyone had tried making a makeshift heater using a cardboard toilet roll tube, rubbing alcohol, and a coffee can ( As described in Field And Stream ). I dont have any rubbing alcohol right now or I'd of tried it myself. Just make sure to have adequate ventilation if you try it.
Coldkill - I haven't made one with alcohol but I have made one with paraffin. Go to this thread for my write up. It's post 17.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ht=shoe+polish