Im with you on that!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsitenha
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Im with you on that!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsitenha
well,, 5,000 rds would require that I be issued a junior troop to haul it :) . But 40 rds is a reasonable load to carry. And I dare say that would be more than enough for a normal walk in the woods. And was an ample amount for some "social engagements". I guess it just depends on your needs and comfort level.
I can dig it!
The reason I suggest that many rounds was that somebody had described a scenario of an extend period - months to a year. But hey, if it works for you, then it works for me.
My bad then,, I would need several troops to lug in that amount :) Or talk the wife into being a bit more cooperative :).
Well, I must say that is very nice of you and I will take you up on that offer... but: If you would send me your address I could send you some token of my appreciation. And humble humiliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopeak
No worries. My ideal situation would not be just one weapon, but in a survival situation small game is likely to be on the menu more frequently than larger game - hence my choice of the 22 (haven't used the word hence in awhile - feels good - go ahead and try it)
Last time I used the word hence, someone took my temperature :) A .22 does make sense. I guess I hold to my old ways , "bigger is better"
I would have no trouble carrying 5,000 rounds of 12g..............(in the back of my truck!)
Was a SS M6 Hornet .22/410 (someone's enjoying it), now a Savage BV(.22 lr) then the Savage .22 BSVT stainless steel bull barrel w/ lamanent thumbhole stock.
gosh i left NH to go back home and do a little deer hunting (with a .30/06, not a .22 lol!!!) and there were 34 posts...now there's 189! nice to see such interest in a thread started by the new guy, appreciate all the posts guys! keep em coming, im really liking this place so far!
oh n hopeak, enjoy your winnings lol!
-cory
My winnings have been given to a fine young man.
One of the problems is that all the Bloggers, Gun Magazines, and yes, "US" use the words "Survival Rifle" which is confusing, and misleading.
"Subsistence Rifle" might be a better title for the firearm. It would NOT be a perfect hunting rifle, it would NOT be the perfect battle rifle, it would NOT be a perfect home defense weapon.
My understanding of "Subsistence" is just enough to stay alive. Maybe a mouse one day, maybe tree bark the next day. The objective is to live one more day. To subsist. To me implied in subsistence is hunger, your going to be hungry.
There are many types of solutions that did not get mentioned, like sleeves, or chamber adapters. Or switch barrel firearms like Contenders or H&R.
I do feel the the firearms industry has never fully embraced this market. H&R with its survivor firearms may be a starting point.
The firearm needs to be simple, with the least moving parts, and the ability to function with out oil, grease, or lubricants. Maybe all parts would be Teflon coated.
The .22LR with it variants, .22Long, .22short, .22CB Cap, .22BB Cap, etc. is versatile, but still limiting. However it could be a chamber adapter for a .223 Remington, or .22 K-Hornet "Survivor" Subsistence Rifle.
I agree in concept with hopeak. A simple design is best. Few parts, easy to maintain. I would submit that a "Drilling rifle/shotgun" maybe an ideal compromise. You can select caliber and gauge combo depending on your needs. http://www.apachego.com/drilling/index.htm
Unfortunately all I have seen, are extremely expensive.
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Originally Posted by Pal334
The SAVAGE Model 24 used will run $250.00 to $495.00 depending on cartridge/gauge. The .222 Remington over .20 gauge can be reamed out to .223 Remington for cheaper ammo.
Thanks hopeak. Was not seeing the forest for the trees :) . Now this is a good "compromise" to my compromise. I try to be a "KISS" (Keep it simple stupid) guy. The Savage design is as simple as it gets.
Thanks again
if i could tolerate carrying shotshells then id go for it. the contender is a great firearm and ive shot quite a few lately as they've gotten awful popular. but after following this thread im really into the idea of picking up a 10/22 to pack around.
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Originally Posted by fishpole
You might also look at the 10/22 Charger. A 10/22 with a 10" barrel and comes with a scope base and Harris Tripod. Cute set-up for a back pack/day pack.
Many on here, including me, own the 10/22. It's a great "all-purpose" rifle. I wouldn't call it a "Survival" rifle though; more like Hopeak said, a "subsistence" rifle.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by fishpole
new to the sight , but there being leagle issues as to caliber ,i think of it this way atlatles are not leagle for hunting deer in most states ,but our ansesters fed us deer from those same primitive wepons. as for the ruger ,a well placed shot to the heart ,lungs, or head and you have your deer .:)