Among the taxes, conspiracy theories, anti-gun movements, censorship, hoarding laws, etc. it now appears you REALLY do have to worry about the NSA snooping;
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...ustopnewsearly
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Among the taxes, conspiracy theories, anti-gun movements, censorship, hoarding laws, etc. it now appears you REALLY do have to worry about the NSA snooping;
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...ustopnewsearly
The only good thing about this. They increase the "volume" of information and it is added to the pile of other "undigested" information, so you do still have a certain anonymity. Down side, real important stuff is being ignored due to the volume. A bit more accountability is need for the collectors.
I disagree. With a simple text manipulation program like perl I can sift hundreds of gigs of data in a very short period of time. I understand the amount of data they are pulling in is gargantuan, probably 100's of Terabytes if not more, so with today's technology sifting the data for a list of keywords and phrases, even "hack speak" and other forms of code can easily be picked out of the millions of people being monitored and set off a flag, which then passes that "account" over to the guys who give greater scrutiny to individuals. For the most part, the initial collecting and sifting will be all automated and handed to a larger cluster of servers. I wouldn't put it past the NSA to have one or two of Google's mobile datacenters, those big CONEX's full of nothing but storage and processing power.
Snooping, cell phones are the worse. No wiretap approval required. Using open airwaves. Lot of electronic technicians can listen into your cell conversation at any time. In the early 80s I learned this watching some techs scanning frequencies and listening in on certain calls. I can't remember the piece of equipment used but it was not very large and simple to operate. Able to listen in on both sides of the conversation. Watch what you say on the cell.....
Crashdive123, you may be more familiar with the gear than I am. Can you offer any more insite?
I'm not familiar with the civilian side of it, and I'm sure there have been many, many advances in technology since I retired in '96. I was pretty heavily involved in passive electronic counter measures (ECM). Yeah, if it was transmitted, it could be intercepted. Decoding it was always the trick.Quote:
Crashdive123, you may be more familiar with the gear than I am. Can you offer any more insite?
$50 for parts and a quick google search for schematics will get you what you are talking about. Decoding a signal isn't hard for a cell phone. They transmit in plaintext. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Schleprok
I've talked about this before and Coot can back me up on it. If anyone thinks their phone call is private then you need to think again. Phones are monitored daily by your local phone company employee (for quality reasons of course). The farther your call travels the more likely it is someone in an office somewhere is going to hear at least part of your conversation.
Now, I will admit, that the time spent monitoring calls for quality is usually directly proportional to what the conversation is about. I've been privileged to more than one phone call that nearly burned my sensitive and young ears. So I was forced to remain on the line just so I could condition them. Frankly, I didn't even know you could do some of the things described. Really!
Time to go back to the tried and true methods. If the whole world is into technology then the best way to beat is through primitive measures. Face to face conversations and using good ol' pen and paper to communicate.
Nice. Real nice. You just gave some agent monitoring this site heart palpitations. Way to go.
Oh come on....they don't monitor this site. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
That only works if they don't have your RFID ID implant # and .... oh, wait. nm. :cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by doug1980
But seriously, if they are already watching you due to something you said over an electronic medium, (i.e., this forum) it doesn't matter. They will still listen to your conversation, it just takes more effort. You have to be inside of a faraday cage or a lead lined bunker wearing a tinfoil hat to keep it from happening. Best just to not do anything that would make you a target for surveillance. :innocent:
That's not true... government spies are everywhere! Besides writing letters don't work. They all get opened and read and then resealed. People are always listening to your conversations. Government spies! We must continually panic!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by doug1980
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Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper
So what you are saying is.....WE"RE ALL DOOMED!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MatthewnOK
Someone finally understands!!! Yay!!!! We must now begin panic...Quote:
Originally Posted by doug1980
You Okies are strange..... Course I married one so I guess I'm strange too. :)
Someone finally understands!!! Yay!!!! We must now begin panic...
You panic, I'll drink. Neither one will get us any where, but at least I won't remember it.
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Originally Posted by tennecedar
No one told him about the subliminal reprogramming device we stashed in his house? You just think you won't remember it. Not only will you wake up with a hangover, you are going to be admitting to doing things even *I* wouldn't have done...Quote:
Originally Posted by tennecedar
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Matthew - at your tender age, I do believe the lack of caffine and sugar from trying to kick your soda habit are getting to you. Now I would never suggest that a 13 year old take up smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol.......
Your saying I shouldn't be paranoid? They'll get you first! :cold::cold::cold::cold::cold::cold::cold::cold::c old::cold::cold:Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
So the Feds are monitoring, who cares? Look what we talk about on this forum. Giving "atta-boys" to the Navy Seals for a job well done; A plethora of ideas to keep pirates off of American vessels; How to avoid a Super Mod coming onto you while he's wearing a Twinkie suit...well, that one may come back to bite us in the butt!:online2long:
Think maybe you watch too many movies. Like "Enemy of the State" perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by MatthewnOK
Matthew - what makes you believe that I'm not the one doing the watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by MatthewnOK
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I just got a pair of mini-binoculars and a mirror. I'm gonna keep an eye on myself for you guys. Everyone can rest easier now.
This is old news... Like any of us have any real privacy these days. They just busted a couple guy locally for stealing a bronze pig statue at 5:30 in the AM. How were they caught, you might ask? The local ATM machine was taking video of them the whole time they cased the pig, and videoed the backing into it with a pickup and throwing it in the back. Got their faces, their cloths, and the license from the back of the truck...
Not only are you being listened to, you are being watched...
Mohammad Jihad!:creepy::creepy::creepy:
Many people are deluded if they think their lives are so very interesting. If anyone wants to listen to my phone calls then go ahead. They will find out about how my kids are doing in school or what I ate for dinner. Or they can read my email with this forum and learn about treehouses or planting pumpkins or some other information which the NSA is dying to know about. Face it, despite how interesting our own lives are to us, the govt. has other things to worry about than what some guy who lives in the woods is doing all day. The biggest threat to many people is not the NSA or CIA or bilderbergs but the stroke they will suffer if they keep worrying about all of this crap. The threat from the terrorists this electronic surveillance is trying to combat is far more serious that the supposed threat that someone is eavesdropping on your phone call. And if what you are saying on the phone is that interesting to the NSA then perhaps they should be listening to you.
Well, I'm sure that many of the telephone conversations that I have would be of great interest to many of the Federal alphabet agencies and to many state and local ones as well. If they are listening, they are violating someone's Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendment rights because those conversations are privileged conversations. The Constitiution gives me and my client the absolute right to have such conversations without the government listening in.Quote:
Originally Posted by chiangmaimav
If they listened to very many of my phone calls they'd show up at the house in no time. They'd feel sorry for me and offer me brochures of fun spots around the country just to try and get me to have SOME kind of life. Poor, poor, pitiful me.
Ok, so you live a completely boring life out in the bush and no one has any reason to pay attention to you. Gotcha. But for all you know one of us may be running guns for the IRA and another is helping the Somali's, so yeah, maybe the NSA does have reason to watch them. But I think you're missing the point. Simply having an account and posting on "extremist" type boards will get you monitored. Is this board as "extreme" as some of the others out there? Not a chance. Is it still on the list? You betcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by chiangmaimav
Oh great. After that post I'm sure to be monitored. Hey, who's that at my door on a Sunday morning?
Just this guy. He's taking a little vacation.......Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Sorry, hadn't had enough coffee to think clearly. I fixed it. Cool?Quote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
Ummmm - I was joking. Really, I am not worried about it or else I never would have posted a picture of the Rambo Super Deer Slayer Deluxe.:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpine_Sapper
Ken - that looks like job security to me.
He's a local landmark. Kinda' like the Citgo sign near Fenway Park. His name is Nibbles Woodaway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibbles_WoodawayQuote:
Originally Posted by crashdive123
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Originally Posted by crashdive123
lol. right, right. Like I said, caffiene deficiency. And I'm surprised they haven't already contacted you over registering your Deer Slayer....
all i can say about this is who cares, come get ya some *itch but ya but ya better bring a lunch cuz the more time that goes by the better prepared i become
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