My wilderness survival class was hoping to go to the desert this year. We were wondering if there were any good places in california to practice desert survival? An area with at least one permanent water source is required by the class.
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My wilderness survival class was hoping to go to the desert this year. We were wondering if there were any good places in california to practice desert survival? An area with at least one permanent water source is required by the class.
When this year?
Dig a hole and cover yourself...
Serious - they had 810 earthquakes and a few or some were undetectable last month... Some bright *** discovered to sacrifice 72 virgins at the moment of the eclipse would stop the slide into the Pacific and the gods would be pleased. They had a hard time finding virgins in California, So the disaster will happen shortly. :closedeyes:
oh I forgot this was the good news from CNN.
Hunter63 Saying Hey and Welcome...From Wisconsin.
There is an intro section to say hello at:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...-Introductions
What desert were you thinking about?
If you have a permanent water source are you really in survival mode or just camping in a hot place?
29 palms get the best survival training they will let you stay for 4 years and pay you to do so if you can make it past the 13 weeks of pre training in South Carolina
Surely the head instructors, and more experienced higher guys would go through there prior for scouting ?
I mean we always do before deciding to attempt "surviving" an area for days. weeks.
Think about it Anthony.
The OP just joined. This is a first post.
The leader or the group does not have enough experience to know of a possible training site or the ability to locate a site on their own.
Plus they are in California and they do not know where the desert is located, when half of California is desert or Savannah shrub getting less than 10 inches of rain per year.
There are a dozen different State and Federal parks located in the California desert or just across the borders in Nevada or Arizona.
More then 1/2 the total land mass in that area is owned by the government and managed by the Forest Service or the Bureau of Land Management. You can pay a $20 fee, find a box canyon and park an RV in the desert and use it for a get away for a year.
I know that much and I live in Kentucky, 2500 miles away, and took a vacation to the Sonora Desert in Arizona a few years back. We checked out several desert parks and explored some beautiful desert country.
Apparently they never considered typing in California, Nevada or Arizona desert parks or desert camping.
http://www.visitcalifornia.com/ca/fe...e-desert-parks
I really do not want to go camping with this group. I think they might be connected to the two people we discussed a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...-In-The-Desert
Been singing this
https://youtu.be/Tm4BrZjY_Sg
I lived in Los Angeles for 36 years and I and several friends went out into the various desert areas near there, the Mojave, Death Valley, even the high, remote desert of northern Calif., Lassen County, bordering the Nevada state line .I assure the o.p. that "permanent" water resources are very few and far between. We always took water -- and a whole lot of it -- with us. We did not go to "survive," but to explore the great American desert areas. Very interesting and fun so long as you're prepared, know what you're doing, and don't act foolish.
I suggest to the o.p. he do a good bit of research before heading out into the desert to "survive."
Just my opinion.
S.M.
Clearly Logic does not apply to the OP.. I dont even live in the US or know it at all.. and have a bit more logic than that...Quote:
Originally Posted by kyratshooter
Damn its like really that easy? wow... But I am sure if they googled (researched it themself) they would not need to ask silly questions.
Their "school" is just Silly and sub par. goodness.
Desert IMPLIES little to no water and or rain fall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seniorman
Its logic.
I have lived in the eastern Mojave Desert for 30 years and exploring,camping.hunting for 50+ years, I know of about 15" permanent " year round water sources and you could go visit any one of them right now and they might be dry or just soggy soil, I know the Mojave river runs above ground in a few places the rest of the time its under ground. the point being water is limited , you should do some research on line, there are wilderness guides to the Mojave that have GPS locations of water sources most will be in the Mojave National Preserve or National Monument area and most places will be a fee or permit area and may even limit the size of your group, have fun be careful but I think it would be best to take your water with you ( as a backup ) just my opinion:sweatdrop:
Thinking '''Drive-by"
Maybe dust devil.
Look out! Tumble weed coming through.
Now that right there is funny. Thanks for the chuckle.
In sub-Sahara Africa, in our deserts..
The Khoi-san Bushmen Had a very interesting, yet smart way of Finding The hidden Water sources...
What they used to do is Catch a monkey
Tie the monkey to a tree, and feed him salt, and keep that monkey there for a few days..
Then they would release him, and follow the monkey (as his 1st instinct was to run straight to water from dehydration)
It would be just my luck to capture the one monkey that would want revenge the moment I released him.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uHfQuyUFt...-9_468x343.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonyraison
Are you pulling our leg? (I'l thinking maybe?).......
How does one catch a monkey...LOL
Are there monkeys in the desert?
https://i.imgur.com/CwgwR8Z.jpg
KeeKee and Mona (monkeys sitting in a tree on the desert (My desert has a tree)
Mona says "Aw crap here come the survivors again...How many this week?"
Kee Kee says.. "Yeah, 6 so far.... getting to be a PITA....you would think the would bring their water with them, ..Wouldn't ya?"
Mona Says, "Your turn to go get caught,.. get the free salt.......then go get them lost".
KeeKee ......."Oh, all right.....See ya in a couple of days'
With a monkey trap silly, jeezz everyone knows that.:banana:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert Rat!
Bhohahahaha
The old banana in a bottle trick.....yeah... that would work......
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...pscqzhvxqd.jpg
nope....Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAB6nKRW-XQ
LOL.......That came to me after I posted that...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonyraison
Haven't you ever read "Summer of the monkeys" https://www.amazon.com/Wilson-Rawls-...of+the+monkeysQuote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
That was one of my favorite books as a kid.
Having lived in Southern California, and out here in the west high desert... I am with KYRS. It is way to easy to find a spot to "survive". Just look for BLM land. In fact, the best way is to go to the BLM office near you and look through their map offerings. All of SoCal is desert, so that should make the "finding desert" part easy. The easiest way to find where water is, is look for a town. Towns in the west were located where water was. No water, no town. I always carry my own water. In fact even if I am just driving through and not planning on stopping, I carry 6 gallons in the trunk.
My advice, pick a spot and bring a water buffalo. For those who don't know what those are. http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m149.php I am sure there is a word for them in "civilian".
I think a greenhorn would call it a water trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by finallyME
Or.......at buttload of water that you pull behind your Prius.
its a high school that has a part time elective wilderness survival class.
Are teaching it?.......or does the school has an instructor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoyce
If it's a legitimate class for credit....should have a syllabus......lesson plan and study guide with goals.
If it a bunch of buddies on an adventure....the advice given is still valid.
An area for practice should have been found and presented....along with all safety measures, (including water, first aid, emergancy services, permission slips etc etc.)
Something still don't seem right about this. Darkoyce, please explain the whole shooting match.
sounds even more strange.. if its a high school they should be even more extreme on making sure the area is safe enough..Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoyce
100000000% on you with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter63
You guys are correct of course.
At high school level this "class" would need all these things plus one other not mentioned, a teacher certified by the state to teach the course.
And I will bet a buck that California does not have a certification for "wilderness survival" in its accreditation system.
Probably "Health and Recreation" is as close an anyone could come. I used to hide both simple prepping and recreational camping in the "Life Skills" course which was a requirement of my state.
The late Ron Hood came as close as anyone in California to having a certification in the field and he had a great deal of difficulty getting the mentor team of his Phd effort on board for his doctorate dissertation. He had to change it to a more mundane topic they could understand.
They no longer just assign a teacher to a class with no training or interest so they can sit and read the newspaper while the kids kill time. They have testing scores to worry about and no time to waste.
Probably in the performing arts. Firebuilding to eclectic renaissance music or something along those lines.
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