So who watched Apocalypse Man? and what did you think?

[SARKY]

I thought it was better than those numb nuts who survived the night before. But it was just too little. This is one of those topics that 9much like our forum here) needs to be an ongoing thing.

[Sourdough]

Shallow. I can't help thinking of people for whom this is their first exposure to this subject. I see them sitting there saying: wow, I am 110 pounds over weight, I'll need some heavy rope.

[crashdive123]

Now I know for sure that the world is coming to an end. Sourdough is commenting on a current TV show. Quick! Everybody take shelter!

[Rick]

That is just so wrong. It's like God telling off color jokes. It's just not right.

[hunter63]

I guess it was a different goal than I thought it would be.
Bottom line seemed to be, find others?

So would this be y'all goal?
I do agree with meet others on your terms.

As far as tips go, I didn't really have a problem with most except maybe using his flash light when there was a wreaking bar available....Unless he left it on the bridge?
Anyway was interesting

[Bladen]

nobody is gonna mention " this is not a persons house" or whatever he said?

i thought that would come up right away

[Rick]

Lots of advantages in finding others. Synergy, knowledge, protection, resources. You won't rebuild society by yourself.

[Pal334]

Although is a good concept. I was a bit put off by his "Bear" approach. By that I mean, he always seemed to be running, jumping over stuff, taking too many physical risks. Example, Why in the H**l would someone dive into an elevator shaft to grasp 3 or 4 greased cables to make an descent? If you are alone in a survival situation, I doubt that there would be any advantage to running, jumping at the risk of getting injured (unless you are being chased by the Pink Bunnies). I do admit, I only saw 20 or so minutes.

[2dumb2kwit]

I agree with Pal, and I didn't watch the whole thing.

He kept talking about having a secure place to stay, and be able to defend it.
He also talked about finding other people, but seeing them first, so that you can judge if they are friend or foe.

When he made that comment, about that not being anyone's house anymore, and bashed in the locked door, I had to laugh.

What if someone was living in that house? Not being obvious about it. What if they had been watching him....running, jumping, hiding behind stuff, until he got to the back of their house, where he busted in the door.

I don't know about y'all, but I would have considered him a threat, and dealt with him accordingly.

[SARKY]

Speaking of fuel amd diesel fuel in particular, There are many places to find diesel rather than make it. Any of the city or bus line compounds, most of them have their own fuel farm. Then of course there is the airport JP-4 (jet plane fuel) is more or less diesel. Since he has a car and batteries, why not wire up a spare electric fuel pump to pump fuel out of the tanks or tractor trailer gas tanks?
Speaking of no one's home, what if it was booby trapped.
And why send a blind message? when he picked up all that radio equipt., I was wondering, where is the speaker so you can hear if someone is responding. To add to that, why break the window on the drivers side? and why not grab a spare CB radio to put in the car???
Just not very well thought out. I was under whelmed with Bear lite.

[Pal334]

Also, advocating use of the sewer system for travel in what is apparently a minimal or no threat situation (he was running up and down the roads with out being "popped")is not a great idea. I agree it is good to be aware of, constant use confines you too much and exposes you to health hazards unnecessarily . Use of this type of "expert" does not do much justice to the subject. From what I gleaned, he has served his country admirably, and undoubtably would be a handy guy to have around, he takes too many risks for my taste. I may watch again for entertainment, just do not see very much of value being learned from it.

[Winnie]

Sounds like I'm missing some entertaining progammes.

[DirtyApe]

Although is a good concept. I was a bit put off by his "Bear" approach. By that I mean, he always seemed to be running, jumping over stuff, taking too many physical risks. Example, Why in the H**l would someone dive into an elevator shaft to grasp 3 or 4 greased cables to make an descent? If you are alone in a survival situation, I doubt that there would be any advantage to running, jumping at the risk of getting injured (unless you are being chased by the Pink Bunnies). I do admit, I only saw 20 or so minutes.


This.

Way too many risks ala Bear Grills.

Oh, and I thought it was a 1 episode thing? There are multiple episodes??

[pocomoonskyeyes]

I lost interest fairly quick. I thought the guy had delusions of ninja-hood. Made me think of paintball gunfights. The only interesting thing he said that I ABSOLUTELY disagree with is that no one will go to the Libraries! That is one of my first stops in an event such as this(was before the program even). I don't care what statistics he had backing him up.Maybe I just think differently or something.
Anyone ever been in a sewer before? They might be different in a large city but the ones I've been in you can't move like that,if at all.You would have to crawl or duckwalk to move in them.

[rwc1969]

I just barely caught some bits last night after hearing about it by reading thru this thread. i don't want to jump all over the show without understanding what it's full intent is. Plus, I didn't see it from the beginning.

But, ....

Things that jump out at me, like pal said, is him running and jumping throughout. I think he may have bashed his head when jumping up and doing the ape hang to pull down that fire escape ladder. i liked the idea of sticking to the rooftops though.

Another thing, and your mileage may vary, is I tried using a bicycle air pump to siphon gas and the seal immediately failed. Gas went everywhere but in the container and the thing only pumped enough to get the air out before it failed. He looked like he was having the same problem, but they tried to cover it up. I swear I couold see it in his eyes and facial expressions. Anyway, I don't think those pumps are designed for liquids or solvents.

I could see trying to establish some form of communication, but the extent he went to seems like a waste of energy and resources. Siphoning what to me looked like a couple ounces of gas to run a huge industrial generator for 5-6 hours? I'm not so sure about that, and for the sole purpose of trying to charge a battery that he found lying in the weeds on cement. It's not likely that battery would be good. He's gonna use the security cameras to monitor the entire hospital for what? 5-6 hours?

The part where he tested the CB or scanner to see if it worked, what did he use for power to test it? The flashlight? I didn't get that part, but I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention.

Trying to find "Heet" and Lye to create the cooking oil fuel might prove a challenge too. According to his measurements, 1 part heet to 5 parts oil, you need one bottle of Heet for every quart or so of cooking oil. Hopefully there's a gas station nearby with a good supply, because it's gonna take a whole case, or 12 bottles, just to make 3 gallons of fuel. Driving that suburban or whatever with the 6.2 L diesel isn't gonna get him far. How did he end up going from a quarter to a full tank of gas? I sure didn't see him siphon, filter and scrounge that much. A whole tank in that beast is probably at least 20+ gallons, most likely 30 or 40. I didn't even see that much cooking oil in the vat he was dipping from.

I can't equate him to bare grills, but I would equate him to someone who tells you what should work without having actually proved it. I'm not a bare fan, but I think bare would fair much better than him in a real situation.

[hunter63]

So, I gotta ask, you have already found you self a hide, layed in some supplies, and saw this guy running, sneaking, darting form doorway to door way, in out of sewers.

You just happened to be there covering your position with your scoped .270, and he was getting closer, would you drop him?

[2dumb2kwit]

So, I gotta ask, you have already found you self a hide, layed in some supplies, and saw this guy running, sneaking, darting form doorway to door way, in out of sewers.

You just happened to be there covering your position with your scoped .270, and he was getting closer, would you drop him?

LOL...see post #10.:innocent:

[hunter63]

LOL...see post #10.:innocent:

OOPs, Guess I missed that last part, guess we are sorta on the same page?

[Winnie]

OOPs, Guess I missed that last part, guess we are sorta on the same page?

Wow! You'd better move quick, H, being anywhere with 2Dumb is likely to get you into allsorts of trouble!:innocent:

[2dumb2kwit]

OOPs, Guess I missed that last part, guess we are sorta on the same page?

Yep......in that enviroment, it seemed like he was doing the very things that would get you dead.:smash:

[2dumb2kwit]

Wow! You'd better move quick, H, being anywhere with 2Dumb is likely to get you into allsorts of trouble!:innocent:

Heeeeyyyy!!!:blushing:
Dang....I thought me and you, were OK! Sheeez! LOL:innocent:

[Winnie]

Heeeeyyyy!!!:blushing:
Dang....I thought me and you, were OK! Sheeez! LOL:innocent:

That's beside the point:)

I knew boy at school very much like you, he was lovely, a great friend, but trouble followed him like a dog and that dog very quickly became attached to everyone in the viscinity:innocent:

[Batch]

I posted about swinging and shock loading his rope. Busting out the drivers window was stupid as well. Besides keeping out the elements it also is a barrier between you and someone trying to get your ride. I would have busted out a passenger side window. That would give you some swing room and of course lock the doors even if the windows busted out. Might give you time to get a second shot off...

My son came in and was talking to me. Did I see this guy put a pry bar in the door and then bust his shoulder through the door??? He even talked about force multipliers as tools. Yet, he used a lever as a what? LOL Damn sure not to gain mechanical advantage.

Still, I will watch it again...

[DirtyApe]

So, I gotta ask, you have already found you self a hide, layed in some supplies, and saw this guy running, sneaking, darting form doorway to door way, in out of sewers.

You just happened to be there covering your position with your scoped .270, and he was getting closer, would you drop him?

I wouldnt act unless he was too close for comfort. Why give away my position and waste my rounds if hes just passing by. Oh and it would be my scoped 30/30!:m107:

I have also had about enough of these studly dudes with Spec ops backrounds showing the average citizen how to "survive". My wife looked at me and said, "if I gotta climb up buildings and jump down elevator shafts to survive I guess Im screwed". Shes right.

What I'd like to see is a show based on a family of 4 (husband, wife, 2 youngins) like me. Lets see how they can come up with a good survival show based on that situation.

[Rick]

No....They need to come up with a show the demonstrates how to protect your home by using the remote control and how to prepare survival food with the microwave. Heck with that pounding wheat into flour crap.

[SARKY]

I lost interest fairly quick. I thought the guy had delusions of ninja-hood. Made me think of paintball gunfights. The only interesting thing he said that I ABSOLUTELY disagree with is that no one will go to the Libraries! That is one of my first stops in an event such as this(was before the program even). I don't care what statistics he had backing him up.Maybe I just think differently or something.
Anyone ever been in a sewer before? They might be different in a large city but the ones I've been in you can't move like that,if at all.You would have to crawl or duckwalk to move in them.

I too would pick a library, but one of the old heavy stone masonary ones. Makes a good fortress.

[crashdive123]

As completely disgusting as this sounds, a library would also provide a large supply of fuel. I hate myself for even saying that :)

So would a bank vault. I hate myself even more.:blushing:

[SARKY]

And survival TP

[Pal334]

As completely disgusting as this sounds, a library would also provide a large supply of fuel. I hate myself for even saying that :)

I think I saw in a movie once that if you just burn copies of the tax codes, local building ordances and law books you would have sufficient fuel. Besides who would miss that kind of stuff :)

[Scoobywan]

The only interesting thing he said that I ABSOLUTELY disagree with is that no one will go to the Libraries! That is one of my first stops in an event such as this(was before the program even). I don't care what statistics he had backing him up.Maybe I just think differently or something.

I too would hit the library, me and my wife actually discussed this part of the show in some detail. Basically after you think for a minute, you'll realize that most of the population probably wouldn't hit the library. People have become to accustomed to getting online to find info, and most people's second choice would be a book store of some sort (barnes and noble, used book stores, etc..). I think it would take a while for most people to even find the local library anymore... next time you're shopping or stop at a gas station just ask some people where the closest library is, and you'll feel a lot better about the library choice. I only say this because I was on my way to a linux user group, that just happened to be at a library on the other side of the city from where I live, I stopped at 5 different gas stations 1 of which was directly across the street from the library and nobody could tell me where it was.

The part of the show that got me was when he decided to eat the cans of food. If you didn't know where your next meal was coming from, would you really open all of the cans at once, in my head some rationing might be in order. Also, while he was eating and going off into his being lonely speech, his sterno was just burning away next to him, once again I'd think an easy fire source would be a good thing to ration.

The part I did like about this show, along with all the other shows that're going on during this "apocalypse week" the history channel is having, is that it did get my wife thinking quite a bit more about the what ifs.

[Rick]

Having grand kids, you know where all the libraries are. The library has some great programs for kids. At least around here. You can check out DVDs at the library, too.

[Rick]

Tonight is the:

7 Signs of the Apocalypse at 8:00 Eastern
Life After People: Wrath of God at 10:00 Eastern
Apocalypse Man at 11:00 Eastern

Here are the description for anyone interested:

http://www.history.com/schedule.do#

[hunter63]

I have been watching "doom and gloom" week off and on and I swear some of the stuff is propaganda.
But as with anything else, it's up to you if you want to watch, gleen anything usefull, laugh/get pizzed at the rest and move on.

BTW my latest BOV is diesel, purchased with the idea of possible manufacturing of fuel.

[Rick]

I flipped on Apocalypse Man last night. What garbage! What was the swinging from the bridge stuff? How many folks do you know that would do that? Find another bridge or get a boat if you have to cross. For cryin' out loud.

He pulled a tire iron out of his pack and proclaimed what a great tool it was and you should carry it with you. What pish posh. If you need a tire iron get it from one of the abandoned vehicles.

When will Hollywood make a survival show that is both entertaining AND fact based? Sheesh.

[crashdive123]

From the sounds of it, I'm glad I didn't invest any time in it.

[Batch]

Rick, I was talking about the show to my helper and I said the same thing about the swinging on the bridge. I would just take a boat.

[SARKY]

One thing I did notice about gloom and doom week, They just had to interject global warming everywhere. And this after the exposed conspiracy of the pro global warming scientists(sic).

[2dumb2kwit]

One thing I did notice about gloom and doom week, They just had to interject global warming everywhere. And this after the exposed conspiracy of the pro global warming scientists(sic).

I changed the channel, on a couple of those shows, for that very reason.

[Rick]

Oh, sorry. I'm a bit out of breath. I've been busy running around and climbing up things. I didn't have an elevator shaft to test my escape and evasion skills so I tried the pulley on the barn. I've made a note that I thought I should pass along. It's a good idea to either tie the other end off before you jump out and grab the rope OR have a weight tied to it that weighs slightly less than you. In my case, that would be the John Deere tractor. Did I mention the ground is frozen?

[SARKY]

and hard too!

[Rick]

That guy was like spider man. He was crawling up the side of everything.

When he climbed up the rope on the bridge my wife looked at me and said, "I am NOT doing that."

I doubt many will, dear.

[SARKY]

Yeah, and he started scooping out that nasty oil out of the dumpster, I said I ain't doing that with plenty of fuel every where around me.

[Winnie]

One thing I did notice about gloom and doom week, They just had to interject global warming everywhere. And this after the exposed conspiracy of the pro global warming scientists(sic).

Global Warming? that's old news over here. I think "they" have noticed we're having the coldest winter in 40yrs and so has Joe Public, so it's now "Climate Change" But not to worry, it's still our fault!

[2dumb2kwit]

[QUOTE=SARKY;182572]One thing I did notice about gloom and doom week, They just had to interject global warming everywhere. And this after the exposed conspiracy of the pro global warming scientists(sic).[/QUOTE

Global Warming? that's old news over here. I think "they" have noticed we're having the coldest winter in 40yrs and so has Joe Public, so it's now "Climate Change" But not to worry, it's still our fault!

The funny thing is...when the polititians talk about what to do about it, their solutions don't "outlaw" the "evil ways", they just make someone give their money to someone else. Hmmmmm.:sneaky2:

[Stony]

seen about 30 min of the guy with a dirty face running about in a black hoody.
i think that show s a filler for slow times in the doom & gloom chanel.

how will he keep this big flashlight going once the old mono-cells are used up?

[canid]

well you see they will have these large underground pig farms overseen my Angelo Rossitto and Tina Turner, and then... oh nevermind. i was thinking of a different program.

[2dumb2kwit]

well you see they will have these large underground pig farms overseen my Angelo Rossitto and Tina Turner, and then... oh nevermind. i was thinking of a different program.


Mmmmmmm....pig farms mean bacon! Mmmmmmm.:innocent:

[nell67]

well you see they will have these large underground pig farms overseen my Angelo Rossitto and Tina Turner, and then... oh nevermind. i was thinking of a different program.
Just watched this movie a few nights ago,for the first time,you could say I'm a little behind on movie watching!

[Rick]

I've even more behind than you. What's the movie?

[crashdive123]

Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome.

[Rick]

Oh yeah....forgot about that. Thanks!! That movie just proves that a giant with a little person on his shoulders ain't all that tough.

[dscrick]

All in all it wasn't too bad. A little bit much on the drama. And I question the wisdom of risking a trip into a city, especially to "Establish a base". I mean he tells you in one segment to avoid people, then the whole premise of the show is to go to a population center? kind of contradictory

[ClovisMan]

I like how he quickly shows how to "hot-wire" a car and assemble a short-wave radio and expect the average viewer to know how to do this....

[Rick]

I've been practicing but I don't think I'm there yet....

http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10b/burnt_Photo_103006_005.jpg

[Themeek]

I didn't catch the entire show, but just a bit after it was over my mom gave me a call wanting to discuss some of the survival suggestions they had.
The one that sticks out in my mind the most at this point (I didn't see it but mom said he did) was when he recomended a good source of drinking water being car radiaters.
Mom may have been mistaken on that, but if she wasn't, I don't think it would be such a hot idea.

[Themeek]

I too would pick a library, but one of the old heavy stone masonary ones. Makes a good fortress.

I have to agree as well. They built a new library here a few years back. A really fancy "Artistic" number, lots of window and open space.
The Old Library? The turned it into the new bank!

[nell67]

I didn't catch the entire show, but just a bit after it was over my mom gave me a call wanting to discuss some of the survival suggestions they had.
The one that sticks out in my mind the most at this point (I didn't see it but mom said he did) was when he recomended a good source of drinking water being car radiaters.
Mom may have been mistaken on that, but if she wasn't, I don't think it would be such a hot idea.

That would be the LAST place to getdrinking water from,I mean come on,would you REALLY drink water contaminated with anifreeze/coolant???

Rdiculous that they would even suggest such a thing .

[Themeek]

That's pretty much what I said. Mom replied, "Well he did It."

I just have to hope she missunderstood what they were doing... Either way, she know's better (now) and I sure won't be trying.

[Rick]

I honestly didn't catch that on the show. But that would be so funny....

"I've just managed to drive over 60 miles without being spotted and I'm dying for a drink. I'll just slid under here, open the pet cock on the radiator and let it drain right into my mouth." ............................Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

(Way to go, bear)

[rwc1969]

ya, and don't mind all that rust either, it's just extra iron your body needs for proper development anyhoo. gulp, gulp, gulp...

[Batch]

What about the antifreeze? :tongue_smilie:

[Themeek]

I suppose it would weed out some of those who only made it that far by accident or pure luck.

[neondog]

It tastes sweet and many vehicles in warmer climates have coolant so dilluted that it would take a several ounces to do you in but once antifreeze is ingested it never leaves. It does irreversable damage to the brain and would only be an extreme last resort (drink or die.)

A toxic dose requiring medical treatment varies but is considered more than 0.1 mL per kg body weight (mL/kg) of pure substance. Copied from the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol_poisoning)

[Themeek]

Even then it's a lot of risk.

[Batch]

What advantage would it have? Drinking alcohol in a survival situation only tends to exasperate the situation. Would you gain enough hydration to offset any risk?

[hunter63]

What about the antifreeze? :tongue_smilie:

Ya, dare, hey, gud stuff, drink all ya want, (snicker, snicker, woudering how much of your stuff I can carry when you keel over).

So why have water heaters been completely ignored?
Just about every dwelling has one, and I dought anyone would think of it.
Beats the carp out of anti-freeze, even a little bit??????

[SARKY]

Wait, Wait, WAIT!!!!! This guy is a former Marine and the only weapon he has is his flashlight??? Between this show with spiderboy weaponless and the other show "after apocalypse" where the main characters are throwing weapons away .... what gives???
How stupid are the writers? Or at the very least, how uninformed are they? Or is it as I truly believe, it is just more propaganda!

[brunoorz]

Stony: I agree with the flashlight bit not only that but it was a standard maglite and not an led upgraded one which would be much better brighter at least. also did anyone else notice that that tyre iron he had wasnt a tyre iron at all but a pry bar which is a heck of alot lighter than and more functional than a tyre iron and i can assure any local big box or hard ware store has more pry bars(or similar bit of metal) than people so need to carry it unless you really need to.

[dscrick]

I was just catching up on this thread. Seems like the verdict is "Overly dramatic nonsense" across the board. I concur

Drinking water from a radiator? Suicide. Instant guaranteed kidney failure if there is any ethylene glycol (antifreeze) in it.

Almost as bad as watching Bear Grylls squeeze liquid from elephant turds into his mouth. What an idiot. Try surviving the dehydration dysentery is going to give you

These guys should definitely NOT be teaching survival. I watch the shows out of an almost perverse pain I feel from observing the horrendous mistakes these guys peddle as "Skills".

Taking unecessary risks (jumping off cliffs, swimming frozen lakes when you could walk around them, swinging from drawbridges and doing other questionable stuff) is contrary to survival. Unless you are being pursued, I can see no reason to take those risks.

STOP. Stop, Think, Observe, Plan. Make preparations and practice with your equipment. If you might get in a gunfight, have a gun.

Common sense prevails every time

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