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cavecooker
12-27-2009, 03:56 PM
I'm new so unsure if this is OK. In May 2008 I came across Land For Sale next to the Bella Coola River BC Canada. I was going there anyway for the 1st time. So I took a chance & placed a bid offer, & dang if I didn't end up with it. Having a "basic" river cabin being built now & info on my Facebook. Wife & daughter have no interest, & I was there first time Aug 2009 for over 2 wks. Like to find others to make a group. Now you must check out Bella Coola BC on Youtube & the Net. Must get to it by boat. It's within Great Bear Rainforst, Wilderness, bear country, no food can be stored or cooked inside cabin. I have a guide take me because I'm not river skilled. I thought from the beginning, later, solar power can provide even internet usage, lighting, & much more these days. Right now, Coleman Lanterns, small Generator, wood heater later, outhouse being built, no electrical power to it. Only, to large degree, is the Green Tin Roof & plywood floor from Pro Hardware there. Trees are milled into lumber for the cabin being mostly Red Cedar. I'd be thrilled to have guys & gals skilled in things such as canoe,raft,cayak, wilderness skills, & such. I do take & allow beer. Must see to believe, it's on 160 acres & river is listed historical, & no motors allowed- gasoline or electric. Please ask for more info is interested. Note- I live 3K miles away, & only go once a year, so others could possible go at other times if we all agree to agree. Bear Spray a must & I carry rifles allowed by 909 Non-Resident Firearm Declaration. If you like the wilderness, this is IT.

Sourdough
12-27-2009, 04:15 PM
Question: What is a "Cayak"........?

Camp10
12-27-2009, 04:21 PM
Question: What is a "Cayak"........?

I tink is a kinda bote

pocomoonskyeyes
12-27-2009, 04:22 PM
Well that is a generous offer being made in an introduction. But I believe I'll hold off for now.

@ Sourdough - Kayak is what I believe he meant.

Camp10
12-27-2009, 04:27 PM
The place sounds like it has alot going for it. I will have to agree with Poco on this though. I've had a tough enough time with the camp of mine and I knew the others very well that I went in on it with. I bought them out a year ago just to keep them as friends.

crashdive123
12-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Seriously? You are seriously inviting people on an internet forum that you've never met to an isolated retreat that must be reached by boat? You have no skills, but want people to show up that do? Oh, and you'll allow beer?

Well, I too will have to pass on that. Good luck. Welcome to the forum.

Rick
12-27-2009, 06:27 PM
Just out of curiosity, what do you intend to do if one of the folks that takes you up on your offer is a serial killer?

pocomoonskyeyes
12-27-2009, 06:35 PM
Just out of curiosity, what do you intend to do if one of the folks that takes you up on your offer is a serial killer?

Could be he's the Serial Killer? Just saying..... But in a way that would be a good thing cutting down on some that are short of brain cells..... Just sayin'

NightShade
12-27-2009, 06:39 PM
Generous offer, I'm lookin for something a little closer to home though.
Welcome to the forums

Rick
12-27-2009, 06:45 PM
Well, I'm not trying to poke fun at him. We get folks on here from time to time with the same idea. I just don't understand taking that kind of risk and I'd like to hear his reasoning for shopping on the net. There may be a valid reason for doing it but I can't see it.

LowKey
12-27-2009, 07:07 PM
Weird to advertise the location/description of your camp on the net.

NightShade
12-27-2009, 07:53 PM
Anyone wanna come up to my cabin for vacation?... Well its not exactly mine, but the guy who owns it is never there...
He lives 3k miles away... I hear we can only get there by canoe.

pocomoonskyeyes
12-27-2009, 08:18 PM
Anyone wanna come up to my cabin for vacation?... Well its not exactly mine, but the guy who owns it is never there...
He lives 3k miles away... I hear we can only get there by canoe.

That is a good reason for not going. It might be his, it might not. I would hate to go and someone else show up saying - "Who are you and what are you doing in my Cabin".

Stony
12-29-2009, 06:30 PM
Cavecooker, PM me please.

oldsoldier
12-29-2009, 07:19 PM
As we paddle up in our " cayaks" to the scenic shore:whistling: we are awed by the sight as the music from Deliverance plays softly in the background:eek:

hunter63
12-29-2009, 08:19 PM
Seen a lot of projects come and go over the years.

Mostly it seems the owner makes the rules, and wants labor/money etc because he can't do it on his own.

In the end seems it does work out for the owner, but the partners, kinda get the shaft.(this can be taken any way you want)
So welcome, and good luck, but I have enough with my own Homestead/cabin/BOL, thanks for asking..............

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 06:55 PM
Seriously? You are seriously inviting people on an internet forum that you've never met to an isolated retreat that must be reached by boat? You have no skills, but want people to show up that do? Oh, and you'll allow beer?

Well, I too will have to pass on that. Good luck. Welcome to the forum.

I'd have him checked out & feel comfortable or not include.

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Just out of curiosity, what do you intend to do if one of the folks that takes you up on your offer is a serial killer?

One of us will die---don't you think. If he is so into going into the wilderness & trying to kill me, I'll be into the same thing & intend to kill him first. I'm not worried. I have a Nuxalk (new-hawK) Reservation 2,640 feet down river & he or them would never got out, get away, nor loose a group of Nuxalk. If he intends to go & take such risk, he's must be tough, but he will not get away alive or dead.

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 07:00 PM
Question: What is a "Cayak"........?

From a man who never made a type-O.

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 07:05 PM
Seriously? You are seriously inviting people on an internet forum that you've never met to an isolated retreat that must be reached by boat? You have no skills, but want people to show up that do? Oh, and you'll allow beer?

Well, I too will have to pass on that. Good luck. Welcome to the forum.

I might add, I have lots of Nuxalk Indian friends there. You can't get to the cabin except by river. No motors are allowed on this Historical listed river- gasoline or electric, so he must go down river. The Great Bear Rainforest my 160 acres is on, is "all" wilderness & extremaly thick with everything including a carpet of mulch that's been falling for 1,000 of years. The Nuxalk, if you check the history, actually found it easier to pole up the shallow glacier fed river rather than go by land.

If I don't like em, my Nuxalk friends will carry him out right away.

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 07:17 PM
The place sounds like it has alot going for it. I will have to agree with Poco on this though. I've had a tough enough time with the camp of mine and I knew the others very well that I went in on it with. I bought them out a year ago just to keep them as friends.

You sound like the kind of person with possibilities & could possibly fit in. I could, you could, check each other out. I do not blame anyone for being extra careful.

Bella Coola BC tourist are mostly European. I believe this place will catch on. I only purchased it, being ever once going there or seeing the 160 acres, to put my cabin on. Last August 2009 while there, for the first time, my Nuxalk & other friends asked if they could try & make a "sport" Pacific Salmon fishing place out of it & I said sure. I'd like to find a few salmon fisherman to make it a yearly thing more or less. Actually I'd like to go and still 30 - 60 days, so there could be a number of folks that could join me at different times. I'm not fearful of making new friends, and if I don't like them, they will not be scaring me. Screwing with me in the wilderness isn't an idle place with all the other Nuxalk friends just 2,640 (1/4 Section Square) feet down river. There's limited ways of getting into Bella Coola- flying into the 4,200 ft runway, seasonal ferry service on the Queen of the Chilliwack, or Hwy 20 also called Freedom Hill or The Hill which has 18% hills, single lanes in places, no railing, & much of it gravel from William Lake BC with is 300 miles. Bella Coola is small & no many can come & go without being seen. Getting away even is the Nuxalk don't get you------you can't. Dying isn't my main concern. If dying is his main concern, his going to have big problems.

Rick
01-01-2010, 07:23 PM
If you've only been there once, how did you make all those friends?

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 07:25 PM
Weird to advertise the location/description of your camp on the net.

You, them can go to the place, if you can. River is dangerous & you will be spotted. You can't get away with it. He would go to jail for sure. Come on if you think it's worth the risk. You could destroy the cabin, but you pay a higher price than I. My cabin would be replaced. If you burn it down, & the rainforest burns too, you'd be staying in jail a very long time. Last August or 2009, while there, there were "over" 800 Wild Fires in BC alone. Helicopters were flying in Bella Coola all day long & they had two flight crews for each copter. They brought in a barge for the fuel. It was extra dry last year. You can see some info on YouTube. After I left BC, after almost 3 weeks, there were still over 700 Wild Fires in BC. Info off the radio. You start a fire in that country & it causes wide spread damage, you can hang up freedom.

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 07:37 PM
That is a good reason for not going. It might be his, it might not. I would hate to go and someone else show up saying - "Who are you and what are you doing in my Cabin".

I can present the Land Title, just like I do at the Canadian Border, right now. I also have to stop at both American & Canadian borders coming & going to present my 909 Non-Resident Firearm Declation Form for my
Mossberg Pump 12 ga that holds eight 3" slugs- last year the Canadian border guys said- "This is an assault weapen" & I didn't hesitate & said- "Your damn right, if a grizzly assault me, I intend to assault him back". He didn't say anouther word.

CZ550 .375 H&H Mag Rifle loaded with Federal 300 gr Cape Shock Sledge Hammers - Last year the American border guard pull it out, looking over it closely, points out this tiny stain looking thing-e & said- "What's this?" I knew he was thinking blood. It was no blood & I knew it. I said "I have no idea" He had no other questions for me.

The Canadian Border Guards asked me for the Land Title, maybe thinking I didn't have it, but I damn sure did. I carry lots of paper work. When they ask me why & what, I say I own 160 acres in Bella Coola & sometimes they look at me funny. Last year the Canadian Guard said- "That's alot of land" I said nothing---don't have to.

pocomoonskyeyes
01-01-2010, 07:47 PM
Cavecooker, I think that your offer is very generous. However I think that what most are trying to say is that regardless, you might want to get to know people first,before making such an open invitation. There is nothing wrong with being so generous. Yet when we see the news stories about this or that happening we all tend to be a little cautious of such an offer. Stick around,get to know folks,let them get to know you and see where it goes from there.

No offense but I always meet someone I have met on the internet in a PUBLIC place first, and get to know them better before I would even think of going somewhere like a wilderness area. Trust me you stick around, get to know people,let them get to know you, and you will have some take you up on your offer. Thanks for being so generous, and I hope understanding.

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 08:03 PM
If you've only been there once, how did you make all those friends?

I was at the cabin for the first time last August 2009. I bid on the land which was being advertised by Century 21 Nanaimo, BC & the realitor was acting as a duel agent meaning Seller could not know buyer (bidders) & Buyer could not know who seller was, but my Victoria Atty told me we could find out. Seller only listed a number & a surrey, BC address which I looked up on Map Quest but it only showed Interstate Hwys coming together & bridges. Strange huh. I thought the same. My attorney found out he was with a big logging company & his title was "Director" what ever that is. I can prove all this & take all bets. I found out, by email, seller accepted my bid on May 22, 2008. There is so much more to all this, I/you could write a book. There is much more related to the Nuxalks (check net) taken a stand against the logging in the Great Bear Rainforest & a numer of chiefs were arrested. Green Peace was there & another conservation groups with three letters but forgot name. Opra, I read, even had some folks there. The logging was stopped, the canniery closed, hard times there, land value went down, population dropped when many had to leave Bella Coola. I arrived, first time, in Bella Coola August 2008 & Century 21 arranged Leonard Ellis bcgrizzlytours.com to take me to the land to see it for the first time, but Leonard was out of town & my Nuxalk friend Barry took me. I/we were only at the land or about 2 hrs. I left "everything" up to Barry know he knew better than I or anyone where to put the cabin. The cabin site, when I/we went first time was up river a ways & we never walked there then. Fact is, it's so thick, we followed bear trails & only walked over maybe 200 ft square area. I still haven't seen more than 400 ft square area around cabin. I met others there including Jim & Rose Mary Smart who own Eagle Lodge, Tom & Kathy Moore who own Moore's Organic Foods on Grant Rd & more. One has email, & they build, take photos & email them to me, & repeat this process. Check out Leonard Ellis who sold over a million dollars of land & can send you that link too, & why he sold. Tom told me I had done well getting Barry a Nuxalk because you just about have to have the Nuxalks to do anything in Bella Coola. Most people there are Nuxalk. The land transferred officially into my name in June of 2008 & can provide proof. I have a numer of friends the, & with Barry being my friend, he has great contact with other Nuxalks in the Nuxalk neighborhooh called 4 Mile. You're damn right I have friends there. I do "everything" from right here in my shop/office. I, amoung other things, make money leasing commercial property. If you try to put something over on me, & get ugly, doing it in the wilderness would be an unwise place to push your luck. I can be a big SOB.

cavecooker
01-01-2010, 08:12 PM
If you've only been there once, how did you make all those friends?

I guess I made a mistake thinking most folks here would be OK, but there are wise asses everywhere. If I said something you don't like, you're wasting you feelings, because I have none for such issues, & feel it's a waist of time. I'm not like everyone, maybe un-normal, or ab-normal, but many great people were not like you either. I'm not saying I'm great, I'm just saying indeed I'm probably not like you. I have had folks from here to there say they couldn't have done what I did, buying without ever once seeing, but some are spending the same amount of money on a damn vette vehicle & that's not my thing. Land is something I have more of then just Bella Coola. It dangerous & I take out Life Insurance each & every year I go & intend to go into the wilderness. I'm worth more alive, but I may be worth more than you dead, & if you're going to try to kill me, be damn sure I'm not sucking any more air when you do it, or I'll remove you whole f------ head & toss it into the river.

BENESSE
01-01-2010, 08:15 PM
A bat cave called...it wants it bat $hit back.
Jeez!

crashdive123
01-01-2010, 08:16 PM
Cavecooker - it is obvious by your lack of maturity that most folks here were spot on with the assessment of your offer. Since you have chosen the path that you have, you will have to seek your fantasies elsewhere. Goodbye

Camp10
01-01-2010, 08:25 PM
But Crash......he said I would fit it! :) I need a drink...maybe a shower.

hunter63
01-01-2010, 08:26 PM
I guess I made a mistake thinking most folks here would be OK, but there are wise asses everywhere. If I said something you don't like, you're wasting you feelings, because I have none for such issues, & feel it's a waist of time. I'm not like everyone, maybe un-normal, or ab-normal, but many great people were not like you either. I'm not saying I'm great, I'm just saying indeed I'm probably not like you. I have had folks from here to there say they couldn't have done what I did, buying without ever once seeing, but some are spending the same amount of money on a damn vette vehicle & that's not my thing. Land is something I have more of then just Bella Coola. It dangerous & I take out Life Insurance each & every year I go & intend to go into the wilderness. I'm worth more alive, but I may be worth more than you dead, & if you're going to try to kill me, be damn sure I'm not sucking any more air when you do it, or I'll remove you whole f------ head & toss it into the river.

Quite the sales pitch.
OK boys, I'm for axing this post.

Camp10
01-01-2010, 08:35 PM
Quite the sales pitch.
OK boys, I'm for axing this post.

nah, I think it helps the thread go full circle. From a friendly invite to a decapitation threat.

crashdive123
01-01-2010, 08:37 PM
Cavecooker will no longer be posting here. He has been banned.

hunter63
01-01-2010, 08:50 PM
Now that was just scary.......Had to be in marketing, like the guy that keeps calling and telling me my credit card intrest is too high.............
Thanks.

Rick
01-01-2010, 09:25 PM
Well that's just great. I had my tin foil hat and my Magic 8 Ball all packed.

What was up with all the killing and head tossing and shipping you down stream with the Newalk stuff? Griminey.

crashdive123
01-01-2010, 09:29 PM
I guess he answered the question about whom (or is it who) is mentally unstable.

rwc1969
01-01-2010, 10:32 PM
Well that sucks! After the head tossing in the river part I was about to try and take him up on the offer.

gryffynklm
01-01-2010, 11:33 PM
Banned with 11 posts, never got out of his introduction. Makes you wonder exactly what he was cooking in that cave of his.

My invisible hand says thank you. Actually its a sock puppet but he doesn't like being called that.

Rick
01-02-2010, 11:12 AM
Oooh. A testy sock puppet. Careful with that.

Camp10
01-02-2010, 11:24 AM
If he was banned yesterday, how did he log in this morning?

Rick
01-02-2010, 11:35 AM
He can log in, he just can't do anything.

Camp10
01-02-2010, 11:37 AM
He can log in, he just can't do anything.

So it's like he is married to the site? :)

Rick
01-02-2010, 11:38 AM
Exactly. Part of the union but incapable of decision making.

NightShade
01-04-2010, 01:25 PM
Wow!... What did I miss when I was gone?!
The invitation to a camp turned into a threat of decapitation?!!!
Ha... There's 1 offer I'm glad I turned down!

Beo
01-04-2010, 08:28 PM
Just out of curiosity, what do you intend to do if one of the folks that takes you up on your offer is a serial killer?

Not fair I love cereal....

crashdive123
01-04-2010, 08:54 PM
Beo - Go eat your Captain Crunch.

Beo
01-04-2010, 09:01 PM
LOVE ME SOME CAPTAIN CRUNCH!!!!!!!!!! The original though.
Although being a cop I have found that crack heads prefer to eat Captain Crunk!!!! Lol.... Oh I ...CRACK... myself up!

Rick
01-04-2010, 09:48 PM
Hang on. Let me just toss this in the river. I'll be right back.

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trax
01-05-2010, 02:44 PM
I just hate it when these guys show up and then get themselves banned before I get a real chance to torment them. Spoilsport moderators....

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