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oly

12-19-2009, 10:12 AM

Wants me to start this project next weekend, If I refuse there will be surviving the situation and if I submit I just might live through it.
Oh my back and knees already hurt just thinking about it.
http://www.lumberliquidators.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1541

Rick

12-19-2009, 11:21 AM

I couple of thoughts. If you don't have knee pads...get 'em. You might also consider renting a pneumatic nailer or at least an assisted nailer.

http://img.diynetwork.com/DIY/2005/04/14/dktn406_2fc_lead.jpg

Your life will be sooooo much easier. If you haven't laid flooring before you want to make certain the sub floor is flat as a pancake. I wound up planing two floor beems to take the berm out of them. I laid down 20lb roofing felt on the sub floor as a moisture barrier, too. You want to run the boards perpendicular to the floor joists otherwise if there is a hump it will REALLY show up. Leave a 3/4 inch gap at the wall for expansion.

They also make wax pencils (like big crayons) that are tinted to match your floor. You can use them anywhere you might have to surface nail.

2dumb2kwit

12-19-2009, 11:28 AM

Am I the only one, who remembers people putting in carpet over those "cold and hard" Hardwood floors, in "older" houses???:blushing:

Rick

12-19-2009, 11:32 AM

Do you? How about you? Do any of you back there? No?

Yeah, looks like your it.

oly

12-19-2009, 11:41 AM

I am going with cork and do a floating floor. Is this a good thing or not?

your_comforting_company

12-19-2009, 11:56 AM

IME, floating floors are very LOUD. the cork might reduce that some, but seriously the best advice, Rick already gave... GET KNEEPADS!!.. OH the pain!!

a helper, to cut will also save you a lot of backache and time..

and make sure none of your butt-joints fall in the same place.

hunter63

12-19-2009, 12:05 PM

"Hello, floor guy?... Ya, say, can y'all come over and give me an estimate?"
"Just talk to the boss, she'll tell ya what she wants, OK?.....Ya, if y'all need any thing, I'll be in/at---my cabin/shop/blind/duck/fishing boat/recliner.....ya, go ahead sit a spell, y'all need need a beer?"
(be nice, right?)
I know I talk big but gotta/wanna do the floor at the cabin this next year.....knees hurt already.
Good luck

Ken

12-19-2009, 01:03 PM

I still like that wall to wall carpeting. It feels warmer. However, SHE who must be obeyed likes hardwood floors. :sneaky2: Something about having 4 dogs and 3 cats in the house.......:innocent:

HOWEVER, with so many other projects going at once, I managed to delay ripping up the last carpet - the one in the living room - and she's starting to like it more and more, especially when the fireplace is cranking and the 6 of us - her, me, and the dogs, are all lying in front of it. :)

Her compromise - which I must accept without question - was to place a small throw rug on my side of the bed, so my feet stay warm as I search around to see which one of the dogs has my slippers.

Well, I'd like to stay and chat, but I've gotta' get going. Word is we're getting about 18" of snow tonight through Sunday, and I have some checklists to go over. :innocent:

Rick

12-19-2009, 01:36 PM

Oly - I've never done cork. The only thing I've ever put down is natural wood. Anytime you replace textiles with some solid surface material like wood or stone it is going to be louder. There is just nothing there to absorb the sound. In fact, the solid surface will act as a sounding board to amplify it. It's not bad but when my four grandkids come over ....Yumpin' yiminy.....they sure are loud.

Talk to your sales person about dents and dings. Solid wood gets both. It's just inevitable. My wife calls it "character" but she didn't have to put the @#$ stuff down. It grates against my soul every time I find a new one now matter how small it is. You'll want to find out if cork will dent and ding and, if so, how best to repair them. Find out how easily it scratches as well. If it will scratch then just find some wood stain that matches the floor and you can use it to cover any minor scratches. At least it works well with wood.

Also, if it easily scratches then you will want to place pads on the bottom of your chairs, tables legs and anything else that will sit on the cork.

Rick

12-19-2009, 01:41 PM

Ken - I like carpeting as well. But there is something very nice about bare feet on a wood floor. My floors are red oak and the flooring is in different widths 2in then 3in then 4in and 5in widths and I repeated the pattern across the floor. It looks like an upscale barn floor I guess. Anyway, you can feel the seems when you walk across the floor barefooted and it's kind of like a foot massage. Kind of creepy but was a pleasant feeling the first time I walked across it, too. It's a pain in the knee if you need to get down to look for something, though. If I have to do that I generally wind up rolling around on the floor until the dog and my wife show up to rescue me. Round is a shape, right?

2dumb2kwit

12-19-2009, 01:57 PM

Well, I'd like to stay and chat, but I've gotta' get going. Word is we're getting about 18" of snow tonight through Sunday, and I have some checklists to go over. :innocent:

Pal has some extra milk, eggs, and bread..........oh, wait.:blushing:

Rick

12-19-2009, 01:59 PM

All we need are some of those balogna fritters and we're all set. We can haul it to Oly's house and watch him lay that floor. Show time!!

oly

12-19-2009, 02:01 PM

Thanks for your input and is greatly appreciated. I have a sample at home and will see how durable it is.

Rick

12-19-2009, 02:02 PM

I don't know which rooms you are laying it in but if it involves fire you might want to see how durable it is in that regard (fireplace, stove, etc.)

Sourdough

12-19-2009, 02:04 PM

Am I the only one, who remembers people putting in carpet over those "cold and hard" Hardwood floors, in "older" houses???:blushing:

I bought a three bedroom ranch in west Los Anchorage when I got married in 76' and it had the butt ugliest orange and yellow shag carpet. It was wall to wall, it was unclean-able. Prior to ordering new carpet, we checked to see if the pad was still usable and discovered wall to wall new hardwood flooring. It turns out that hardwood flooring was a government requirement on the builder.

Rick

12-19-2009, 02:06 PM

We have a lot of that here in the Midwest in older homes. Wood floors were pretty cold and the furnaces of the 50s and 60s weren't all that efficient so they covered the floors with carpet.

oly

12-19-2009, 02:06 PM

All we need are some of those balogna fritters and we're all set. We can haul it to Oly's house and watch him lay that floor. Show time!!

A cold keg is ordered. I hope light beer is OK, regular is too heavy to carry

Chiefman

12-21-2009, 09:30 AM

Sometimes I wonder if my brother has the right idea or not about the 'Honey Do List'. Every time his wife thinks about doing a list he finds ways that she needs to help. He say's the list quickly reduces to a manageable level.

Rick

12-21-2009, 09:37 AM

hunter63

12-21-2009, 12:56 PM

I told my boys the first time your Mrs. asks you to do a task screw it up horribly. It will set the stage for you and reduce the amount of "stuff" she'll ask you to do. I sure wish dad would have given me similar advice.

Mostly doesn't work too well, 'cuse she the one on the phone....
"Hello floor guy......., yeah, say... can y'all come over a and give me an estimate?.....Send the bill to the recliner guy over there..."

finallyME

12-21-2009, 02:38 PM

wow oly, your wife too. Must be something in the water. :smash:

oly

12-21-2009, 08:25 PM

Yea right "water".
I've been practising using my fire steel on the carpet, lounging around the house in my underwear and watching my waistline grow mentioning the fact my paints don't fit anymore ( i run with scissors ya know).

Water? No!
GET OUT OF MY HAIR AT ANY COST? Yes!

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