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stihl1911
12-18-2009, 02:20 PM
Anyone have onstar? I will not buy a GM with onstar,,,think about it, your car can be unlocked,and shut off by onstar, they know where your car is.??????..................................:cold:: alien:
Sourdough
12-18-2009, 02:25 PM
YOU, Just bought "Thirty BILLION Dollars" Worth. Sorry about that. (Note: and you did not even get a vehicle). But smile The "BOND Holder are good, The union is good, the tax payer not so good.
Camp10
12-20-2009, 08:26 AM
I guess I never really thought of the "evil" side of onstar before! I hope I can still get a basic, stripped down GMC pickup without it! My poor old 2000 is pushing 160K miles (and not the nice highway miles either) and I was considering replacing it.
Onstar is the least of your worries. Let's see, you have a drivers license, social security card, telephone number, address, probably a credit card. Yeah, folks are tracking you already. You might change your mind if you vehicle gets stolen or you lock yourself out of your vehicle.
Camp10
12-20-2009, 09:39 AM
Onstar is the least of your worries. Let's see, you have a drivers license, social security card, telephone number, address, probably a credit card. Yeah, folks are tracking you already. You might change your mind if you vehicle gets stolen or you lock yourself out of your vehicle.
Any worry is a legitimate one! I understand that there are already methods to track me but I dont care to have more. It might make for a boring day..watching me that is. I doubt very much that onstar is some kind of "tool" for big brother but the technology would be right there in the car for easy use and I will try to get a truck without it.
I was wondering when someone would mention onstar and being tracked. If they wont to waste there time tracking me, so be it.
Onstar is the least of your worries. Let's see, you have a drivers license, social security card, telephone number, address, probably a credit card. Yeah, folks are tracking you already. You might change your mind if you vehicle gets stolen or you lock yourself out of your vehicle.
Rick is this the only way you feel loved? By knowing you may have follower?:innocent:
Batch
12-20-2009, 11:38 AM
I have had people say that they would never have a GPS phone. Because, then THEY could track them. I explain that their cell phones are always polling towers and the service provider can use triangulation to locate the person quite accurately.
Google Maps with My Location is an application that uses a different type of calculation to get your range from towers to roughly determine your location so that it can give you more relevant search results.
If you were to bug out you might want to just leave or at least disable your cellphone. But, the powers that be would need a warrant to access that data. Ant contact with anyone is going to be a negative. But, it might be necessary and I would think a pay card type phone such as Boost might be the ticket. But, you'll have to pay cash and show no ID.
As for Onstar it is a use full tool. My daughter has on several occasions locked her keys in the car at the mall. A quick call to OnStar and she is safely in her car and driving away. I think that the benefits outweigh the risks. Unless you become a target of someone who can obtain a warrant to use OnStar against you.
I would then just acquire the knowledge of where the VCIM is and pull the three connectors going into the module. Its usually in the trunk on the passenger side wall.
Their are situations where OnStar is more likely to be a negative. In the event of a serious accident the opposing legal counsel may be able to subpoena certain information regarding the accident. i don't know how easy that is.
When the turnpike was put in down here a lot of folks were concerned with them using the time stamped ticket of when you entered tollbooth A and when you arrived at tollbooth B to issue speeding tickets. It never happened. But, I am sure some speeders took the slower roads to avoid detection. Now we have SunPass and the could easily take any of that computer data that is gathered and write me dictionary sizes (unabridged) stack of tickets. They don't, probably because then nobody would use the turnpike and they would lose money.
I would say that we are either at or very close to the day where all they have to do is punch in your tag number and the cameras will scan for your tag and show you general location and direction of travel.
hunter63
12-20-2009, 12:13 PM
LOL, all the more reason to drive a 1972 rusted out Dodge panel van.
You could leave it running, in the middle of the street, with a full gas tank, and nobody would steal it. They would just get in, pull it out of the way, and leave it there.
Anyway, in a SHTF scenario, I would guess that one of the first things that would go is the grid, hence power, hence a lot of the technology.
I'm sure that "Big Brother' would be pretty busy covering his own butte, to worry much about where I am.
As far as Onstar, I'm too cheap to pay for the subscription any way.
On list of 100 things to worry about, maybe 90 or 89.
Stony
12-20-2009, 01:33 PM
yes, stihl1911,
big broder federal government is out to get you!
as Rick already said: DL, SIN, Creditcard......
if I would be you, i would buy a used bike an vinnie's and use that as your main source of transportation.
no onstar there!
You're right, Camp10. If it bothers you then by all means don't get it. I'm a bit like Hunter, too dang cheap to keep it. Just turning your computer on leaves a trail for others to follow. I just don't worry about it. The agent they assign to watch over me probably takes naps as often as I do.
Oh, how wrong you are, Oly. I keep calling the White House and hanging up so they will keep the agents in the car outside my house. It must be working because I haven't been broken into......yet. It's not about love. It's about keeping a free guard service on duty.
Ole WV Coot
12-20-2009, 02:42 PM
I could be tracked by a position of my house this winter. It don't much matter to me now and I may need it to ask where I live. I understand all the utility vehicles are now being tracked and glad I retired before that. I have had many background checks over the years and could ask Uncle Sam if I wanted to know anything, especially after the security clearance checks I had. I don't think anyone has to worry, don't see any big deal for me. If you have been a "bad" person then I would understand your concern.
I already have a mark on my body. It's XXXXXL but that's just cause it's a man size.
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