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teamgreen
12-09-2009, 06:51 PM
I was talking to a wilderness survival instructor and she was telling me about this "chop the pole" technique for survival. I cant remember what it was but maybe somebody has heard of it before and can jog my memory
Hey, team! Care to tell us a bit about yourself?
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7813
??? :innocent: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21618357-952,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21618357-952,00.html)
http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/paddlin.jpg
The guy in the poster, that's a Rick. :innocent:
Sourdough
12-09-2009, 07:04 PM
Any lady starts talking. "Chop the Pole" around this cowboy, Me be backing up real quickly.
Pal334
12-09-2009, 08:33 PM
Well,, there goes another weak link in the gene pool
Sarge47
12-09-2009, 11:40 PM
Might want to be really careful using phrases like that around this bunch...just sayin'...:innocent::sneaky2::cool2:
klkak
12-10-2009, 03:14 PM
I think the guy was lying. He didn't really cut off his "willy". He just wanted everyone to believe he did. He even fooled the doctors.
Geronimo!
12-10-2009, 03:56 PM
??? :innocent: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21618357-952,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21618357-952,00.html)
" ...horrified diners in a busy London restaurant was today revealed as Polish"
I like how they slip in that he's polish, like they figured out why he cut off his willy
" ...horrified diners in a busy London restaurant was today revealed as Polish"
I like how they slip in that he's polish, like they figured out why he cut off his willy
They forgot to mention "Moderator." He was a Polish Forum Moderator. :innocent:
Oh, Sarge and Crash aren't going to like that snide comment. I've sort of reserved my ban button for important dignitaries and such or I would have just banned you for them.
They forgot to mention "Moderator." He was a Polish Forum Moderator. :innocent:
Oh, Sarge and Crash aren't going to like that snide comment. I've sort of reserved my ban button for important dignitaries and such or I would have just banned you for them.
I just read that he was promoted to "Forum Administrator" when word got out that he cut his own willy off. :innocent:
I've sort of reserved my ban button for important dignitaries and such or I would have just banned you for them.
What a difference a single word makes. :innocent:
At first, I was insulted because you didn't consider the Director of Quality Control to be an "important dignitary." :sneaky2: And then I realized that you had intentionally omitted the word "extremely" from your post. :blushing:
So it's good to know that your ban button isn't reserved for "extremely important dignitaries" (like the Director of Quality Control) and that you won't be banning me! :)
Sarge47
12-10-2009, 05:41 PM
Well, it WAS a resturant, & it WAS Polish Sausage...so to speak...! :innocent:
finallyME
12-10-2009, 06:19 PM
Chyba pan nie lubie jego kielbasa. Chyba bylo za duza (kielbasa to jest).
crashdive123
12-10-2009, 06:26 PM
Now that's funny. Nie obchodzi mnie, kim jesteś.
Camp10
12-10-2009, 06:42 PM
"We believe he's Polish and 35. We don't know if he has a history of mental illness. But he's clearly not a well boy," a police source told The Sun newspaper."
Best quote in the story!! Yeah, He clearly isnt a well boy!:) How did they figure out his age...counting rings?
Okay, back on topic! I hate it when you guys hijack a thread and go off-topic! :sneaky2: (Did I just say that?) :innocent:
Anyway, teamgreen, is this what you were looking for in your original question?
"Finding Water
The trick to finding water in the wilderness is to remember that it flows downhill, cuts grooves in the land and produces green growth wherever it's holed up underground. Water is often found at the base of a hill or beneath the lowest point of a dry riverbed. Another approach is to follow heavily trafficked game trails downhill, these typically lead to watering holes.
Look around tangles of alder or willow, reeds or palm trees, since this is the vegetation that grows alongside a waterway. In the tropics, you can retrieve rainwater from leaves and natural basins. To collect it, chop a bamboo pole in half and lay the two sides beneath your shelter roof to catch the run-off."
http://www.thecityedition.com/2012/Wilderness_Survival.html
finallyME
12-10-2009, 07:01 PM
Now that's funny. Nie obchodzi mnie, kim jesteś.
How do you type with polish letters? Jak ty pisie alfabet polskiego?
crashdive123
12-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Program tłumacz języka, a następnie skopiować i wkleić.
teamgreen
12-10-2009, 07:18 PM
Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.
Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.
Not if you live near Sourdough. :innocent:
crashdive123
12-10-2009, 07:23 PM
Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.
I would avoid - like the plague - any so called wilderness survival instructor that would give that advice.
I would avoid - like the plague - any so called wilderness survival instructor that would give that advice.
Because of the criminal liability? Or because of the ensuing forest fire it would cause?
crashdive123
12-10-2009, 07:36 PM
All of that.
And doing so will cause a loss of power. Now, whom will lose power? Maybe the home with somebody relying on a medical device. Maybe a home that is using electric heat (winter) or air (summer). Maybe the traffic signals in a town, possibly causing a wreck. Maybe the gas stations, possibly stranding motorists. Maybe ---- the list goes on and on.
A "wilderness survival" instructor that teaches this probably can't find his way across the street without a gps. How about teaching how to not get lost in the first place? Land navigation? Orienteering? Signaling?
Just a few thoughts.
Here's another thought. I know that tampering with a cell phone tower or equipment shelter is a violation of federal law (Homeland Security). I haven't checked, but I'll bet that applies to telephone and power distribution systems as well.
Anybody who's taken a survival course HAS to know which direction is which :innocent:, and anyone out there should have a good idea of the general location of towns in the area - unless they were kidnapped and blindfolded and dropped off in the middle of nowhere - or something like that. Why not just follow the poles back to town?
http://911wackos.blogspot.com/2008/02/woman-jailed-for-calling-911-about.html
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bKXlng-gpg0/R6RFlt1__LI/AAAAAAAACI0/EomJ5QwMqvU/S240/op-laff-2.jpg
"No, I'm sorry. 911 doesn't deliver beer, or cocaine, or pot, or rescue squirrels, or help with homework or pizza, or cook hamburgers."
Camp10
12-10-2009, 07:49 PM
As a lineman I've got to say that is very bad advice! The chances of you being "lost" near a distribution circuit is slim. The pole you would be hacking down would probably be a transmission pole and the voltage would be at least 34Kv but more likely 115 Kv or 345Kv or higher. That voltage going to ground looks like a bomb going off, whats more, the step voltage could be deadly out for quite a distance. It gets better because dispatch will "shoot" the line after it shows a fault and if you are still in the area you could take another shock. Yeah, you might get found but it might not be in the condition you would like to be found.
And if it happens to be telephone, you could be putting out the very 911 services that would summon a SAR mission to find you. Repair calls are not made until someone reports an outage unless it happens to be a toll or EAS cable. Then the loss of revenue could net you a hefty six figure bill plus prison time for willful destruction. That very cable could feed a hospital, an airport radar system, water telemetry for an entire community or someone talking to a suicide prevention hotline. And you thought we were just about dial tone.
I think your instructor needs instruction.
And you thought we were just about dial tone.
Noooooo, I think of you more in terms of an annoying phone call. :innocent:
Camp10
12-10-2009, 08:09 PM
Phone lines are also bundled with their own messenger and are very tough. There is a good chance that if it was phone and you cut it down it would still work and no crew would be dispatched. Now you are just a lost felon.
That's a very good point. 1/4 inch strand wire generally. All you'd have is a broken pole.
hunter63
12-10-2009, 08:57 PM
Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.
I guess I would not do this.
My luck would be they would show up, fix the problem, then leave me there to teach me a lesson, for being such a Mr. Dumas....................
Or get home and find out you knocked power out to your house the all the pipes froze and the venison in the freezer spoiled.
Or get home and find out you knocked power out to your house the all the pipes froze and the venison in the freezer spoiled.
Now what's wrong with this picture? :innocent:
Frozen pipes and thawed out meat???
http://www.red-hot-mama.com/images/uploads/TB.gif
Batch
12-10-2009, 09:45 PM
Now what's wrong with this picture? :innocent:
Frozen pipes and thawed out meat???
I was thinking the same thing. But, I know nothing of the kind of weather that will freeze your pipes. Maybe, he has a wood stove to heat the freezer in the case of a power outage caused by people chopping down power poles...:tongue_smilie:
Hey! It's my story. I can tell it any way I want. You're awfully snippy to a man with a ban button, you know.
crashdive123
12-11-2009, 09:56 AM
I was thinking the same thing. But, I know nothing of the kind of weather that will freeze your pipes. Maybe, he has a wood stove to heat the freezer in the case of a power outage caused by people chopping down power poles...:tongue_smilie:
I know you're in the south end of the state, but in the north end when the temps drop below freezing for more than 4 or 5 hours there are lots of burst pipes. All of those off-grade homes with absolutely no insulation around the pipes. One of the busiest times of the year for plumbers up here.
finallyME
12-11-2009, 10:08 AM
Program tłumacz języka, a następnie skopiować i wkleić.
Dziękujię bardzo.
You guys must have broken keyboards. Either that or your typing is just really bad.
Ole WV Coot
12-11-2009, 11:31 AM
Although my thread was hijacked, most likely because of the humorous title, I found my answer. "Chop the pole", not any pole, telephone or power pole if you are lost. Respective company should be there within a few hours to repair problem.
Not in the Eastern US. I can truthfully say you best have a tent plus food for several weeks. Unless the cable(telephone) is cut it can lay on the ground for years. Telephone maintenance splicers NEVER go in the woods out of sight of their truck.:phone:
aflineman
12-11-2009, 11:32 AM
As a lineman I've got to say that is very bad advice! The chances of you being "lost" near a distribution circuit is slim. The pole you would be hacking down would probably be a transmission pole and the voltage would be at least 34Kv but more likely 115 Kv or 345Kv or higher. That voltage going to ground looks like a bomb going off, whats more, the step voltage could be deadly out for quite a distance. It gets better because dispatch will "shoot" the line after it shows a fault and if you are still in the area you could take another shock. Yeah, you might get found but it might not be in the condition you would like to be found.
Pretty much my thoughts also. Not to mention the fact that many line crews can be on the unsympathetic side when they find out that you cut the line down. Nothing says they have to give you a ride home. I would more likely to just point you in the right direction and tell you to scram. (Sorry sir, I am not allowed to take noncompany personnel in my vehicle. If you walk that way about 50 miles, you should find the road). ;)
Stargazer
12-11-2009, 12:09 PM
I wonder how long it would take to cut through a pole with a SAK?
I have a friend that owns a telephone pole in town.She hit it with her car and the pole snapped.The broken piece just stuck in the ground supported by the wires.The electric company billed her insurance for its replacement.I tell Kate she should charge people for putting up yard sale signs on her pole.
crashdive123
12-11-2009, 12:29 PM
Dziękujię bardzo.
You're welcome.
Ole WV Coot
12-11-2009, 12:43 PM
I wonder how long it would take to cut through a pole with a SAK?
I have a friend that owns a telephone pole in town.She hit it with her car and the pole snapped.The broken piece just stuck in the ground supported by the wires.The electric company billed her insurance for its replacement.I tell Kate she should charge people for putting up yard sale signs on her pole.
Yard sale signs and the people that nail them on utility poles should be fined and
beaten severely about the head. I always enjoyed picking my way with hooks, not to mention a good chance of falling:smash::smash::smash:
crashdive123
12-11-2009, 01:01 PM
Did this "wilderness survival instructor" tell you how you were supposed to fell the power "pole"?
Did this "wilderness survival instructor" tell you how you were supposed to fell the power "pole"?
C'mon. That's a no-brainer. :innocent:
Hint: You can do it with a length of paracord and two sticks.
Telephone maintenance splicers NEVER go in the woods out of sight of their truck.
Unless it's to pick mushrooms or blackberries. And if you see a splicer headed to the woods with this month's issue of the IBEW Journal.....don't ask.
rwc1969
12-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Wow! 50 posts and only one serious response. Is that a record?
I think if the pole was wooden it might serve many purposes. Besides catchin the forest on fire, no need for a bowdrill here, and bringing water, eventually, from the fire dept/ forest service.. Maybe it has ceramic insulators that could be chipped into arrowheads/ spearheads. etc. The wire and/ or insulation might make excellent cordage too. Any metal pieces could possibly be ground to a point or used as hooks/ sinkers for fishing. The pole itself could be split and small pieces/ splinters would make great shafts for spears. Maybe the preserving pitch could be heated/ scraped out of the pole and used as glue, etc....
Not to mention all the critters that would be making haste to get out of the burning forest. You could set up snares and probably just club em as they ran for their lives confused by the smoke and flames.
aflineman
12-11-2009, 05:43 PM
Yard sale signs and the people that nail them on utility poles should be fined and
beaten severely about the head. I always enjoyed picking my way with hooks, not to mention a good chance of falling:smash::smash::smash:
I agree. Always seemed the worse ones were on the corner of the lot, over a durned picket fence.:sneaky2:
crashdive123
12-11-2009, 06:10 PM
Wow! 50 posts and only one serious response. Is that a record?
Obviously you have not visited the 2D2K vs Ken thread lately.:innocent:
Obviously you have not visited the 2D2K vs Ken thread lately.:innocent:
:confused1:
I agree. Always seemed the worse ones were on the corner of the lot, over a durned picket fence.
That has a pitbull that, of course, never bites.
Everyone that puts a nail in a wooden pole should be forced to climb it. They'd gain a new found respect in no time.
markhdteck
12-16-2009, 11:24 PM
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