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aflineman
12-04-2009, 03:15 PM
I’m rearranging my small hunting/walking bag, and am looking for a small stove to put in it. I’m talking small stoves to boil water for coffee, soup, instant meals. I built an alcohol burner that works well, but it kind of bulky for a small carry bag. Esbit is nice, as is the small hexamine tablets and a Ti wetfire stove. I have the canteen cup and stove as an option also. The alcohol stove will always bring a full canteen cup to boil. The small Esbit , hexamine, and wetfire tabs will not. I always carry the canteen stove, just too easy to keep it together. I am leaning toward making room for the alcohol burner/fuel, and just put it under the canteen cup stove when I need to use it. This is mainly for the times when I can’t burn stuff because of it being to dry in the woods, or I just want a quick meal/drink and don’t want to mess with a fire.

Any other very small stove ideas that I am missing? This will be in one of those small French bags (With a GI canteen in it) that I posted earlier from Sportsmans. I will try and post some photos, item list of what I carry in it so y’all can get an idea of the amount of space I have/don’t have. This also sort of doubles as a mini “get home bag” for short trips to town. I would really like to keep the canteen inside the bag (like I have it now), due to the compactness this gives me.

finallyME
12-04-2009, 04:09 PM
Did you use a windscreen for the esbit? That makes a huge difference in boil times.

aflineman
12-04-2009, 04:45 PM
Did you use a windscreen for the esbit? That makes a huge difference in boil times.

Yes windscreen, in canteen stove, and cup covered. I even did some tests inside. I may just be expecting more from just one. They are just so nice and compact, but I don't have to room to carry a bunch.

crashdive123
12-04-2009, 04:51 PM
Aflineman - I know you said your alcohol stove was a little too bulky, but you may want to check out one that Locorogue made. For its size, it may be just what you are looking for. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8207&highlight=micro+stove

aflineman
12-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Aflineman - I know you said your alcohol stove was a little too bulky, but you may want to check out one that Locorogue made. For its size, it may be just what you are looking for. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8207&highlight=micro+stove

Hmm... Now I need to find some smaller cans and do some burn tests. Thanks!

Mertell
12-05-2009, 06:12 PM
Aflineman:
I have a nice kit you should see. ( Sorry, I will not have a digital camera until Christmas). But I will be glad to post pics as soon as I can....

I use the burner (only) from the Trianga Westwind alcohol stove. I modified a candle-burning butter melter for a pot support. It is basically 3 legs with a ring on top.

The Pot is an Optimus (Swedish) .8 liter model with folding handles.
I drink coffee and soup right from the pot.

The best part is that it all fits into the pot!
Please remember that these stoves carry fuel for two light meals. By that I mean boil two cups of water. The mini stoves that are out there carry no fuel.

So: I have all this carried in a cook pot with folding handles. It is roughly the diameter of a 1 pound coffee can, but shorter: (5").

If you (all) like, I will post pics as soon as possible. I will be glad to answer questions, as these stoves DO have the usual pros and cons.

-Mert

aflineman
12-06-2009, 02:03 AM
Here is what I am trying to fit this in.
Picture of bag packed, and it's contents. (Starting fluid bottle for size comparison).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/AFLineman/DSC03249.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/AFLineman/DSC03252.jpg

crashdive123
12-06-2009, 09:16 AM
Another “small” option is this little stove. Any of the fuel tabs will work. Picked this up a while back from Cheaper Than Dirt for $1.98.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Emergency%20Gear/Stoves008.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Emergency%20Gear/Stoves009.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Emergency%20Gear/Stoves011.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Emergency%20Gear/Stoves010.jpg

aflineman
12-07-2009, 08:27 AM
It looks like I may have stumbled upon a solution. I used a combination of fuel tabs and alcohol in a shallow pan (metal lid from a Monster energy drink). This achieved a 5min boil for 2 cups of water. Now I need to see how/if this works in the field.

Rick
12-07-2009, 09:55 AM
Trianga Westwind alcohol stove

That is one dandy little stove and pretty inexpensive, too. If you look around you can generally find the Swedish cook set on eBay or elsewhere for like $20. It comes with a Trangia stove.

aflineman
12-07-2009, 01:27 PM
That is one dandy little stove and pretty inexpensive, too. If you look around you can generally find the Swedish cook set on eBay or elsewhere for like $20. It comes with a Trangia stove.

I actually picked mine up at the local Surplus place. $20 for 10 sets. I gave them out to some of the Scouts in our troop and kept one for me. Cookset is heavy, but the stove is what I use for my dedicated backpacking stove. Works well for how I cook on the trail. I need to build a simmer ring for mine. My kit was the only one without one. I figure that I can make something up for it.

Mertell
12-07-2009, 02:18 PM
There are two sizes of the Trianga-style stoves out there. The genuine Trianga is a tad smaller than the surplus knock-offs that sell for less.

They both work fine, but be warned that they are NOT interchangable.

-Mert

klkak
12-08-2009, 05:54 PM
I still like my JetBoil. The fuel can and stove fit inside the pot and it will boil 2 cups of cold water in 2 minutes at sea level. One fuel can has lasted me several days using it 2 or 3 times a day.

aflineman
12-14-2009, 07:29 PM
Well, this small Altoids tin looks to be the ticket. Used some mesh and insulation to form a "bed" for the alcohol. It boils 1/2 of a canteen cup (enough for instant soup or coffee) in about 6min with about 1-1/2 ounce of fuel. It will heat a full canteen cup to a usable temperature, but not a full boil.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/AFLineman/Photo_121409_002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/AFLineman/Photo_121409_003.jpg

This next stove made from a couple of V8 cans is nice, but just a tad to large for my use. It will boil a full canteen cup in under 8 min., and keep it boiling for 2 more. Uses about 1-1/2 ounce of fuel. I may put it in the car, just because it works well and is now built. These both use the yellow bottles of "Heet" for their alcohol fuel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/AFLineman/Photo_121409_004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/AFLineman/Photo_121409_005.jpg

rwc1969
12-14-2009, 10:41 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned or how well it would work as a stove, but you can take a roll of TP, stick in a metal coffee can, fill it with alcohol and put a lid on for storage. The medium can is a perfect fit. I don't know if they even make metal coffee cans anymore. LOL! But, It makes good heat for icefishing, doesn't spill or leak because the TP holds the alcohol in and is inexpensive.

aflineman
12-15-2009, 12:47 AM
Not sure if it's been mentioned or how well it would work as a stove, but you can take a roll of TP, stick in a metal coffee can, fill it with alcohol and put a lid on for storage. The medium can is a perfect fit. I don't know if they even make metal coffee cans anymore. LOL! But, It makes good heat for icefishing, doesn't spill or leak because the TP holds the alcohol in and is inexpensive.

I have done that before. Worked well when I was doing guard duty, and freezing.

Mertell
01-03-2010, 12:35 PM
This is my version of the mini alcohol stove. The stove and pot stand all fit inside the pot. And the pot, extra fuel and food all fits into a nylon military bag that is about the size of a large grapefruit.

The pot stand is modified from a candle-powered butter melter designed for seafood. The pot is OPTIMUS of Sweden, size .8 Liter.

For fuel I burn painters alcohol, but many fuels work just as well.

I do not carry a wind screen: I find that my backpack suffices.

The pot is secured by two rubber bands, which are letter at preventing rattling sounds than the original mesh bag. A lexan spoon and old leather glove for pot holder round out the kit. Two small aluminum canisters carry extra fuel.

Main entree is cup-a-soup with macaroni and dehydrated veggies. During warm weather, I carry canned chicken, but in winter, I am forced to leave it out, for fear of freezing.

-Mert

crashdive123
01-03-2010, 07:19 PM
Nice set-up Mert.

Rick
01-03-2010, 07:58 PM
Very nice. That Trangia is hard to beat. Just a great, tough little stove.

aflineman
01-03-2010, 08:04 PM
I wish that I could find a simmer ring for my Trangia. It is my dedicated backpack cooking stove (as opposed to the coffee stove I made), and it would be nice to simmer stuff sometimes.

Rick
01-03-2010, 10:39 PM
Google Trangia Simmer Ring. They are all over the web. About $3-4 bucks.

Mertell
01-04-2010, 05:45 PM
Rick and Crash:

Thanks for the compliments.

The set-up does work well for me. I paid dearly for that OPTIMUS pot, ($25) but it was the PERFECT size...... and well, you know the rest of the story....
(he digs into wife's kitchen fund) SSSHHHH hhh!

-Mert

truthseeker2015
10-13-2015, 12:06 PM
Nice looking stove you made there aflineman. Thanks for the pics.

Quietsurvivaalist
10-18-2015, 08:09 AM
My own experience of course is not anyone elses

I like the small folding butane stoves using pressurized fuel. The alcohol stoves are nice to carry, but here in Az temperature extremes are common, and shifts of 50-70 degrees are as well. I need a stove that lights every time with little warning or fuss.

1-2 pulls on the igniter crystal and its burning, and the water is heating . Hypothermia is more common out here than most believe because of how nice it is most days, but it still kills as many as heat does

Pepper13
11-05-2015, 07:00 PM
Great ideas here guys..Think I will probably toss my Esbit and rethink...

MrFixIt
11-06-2015, 03:03 PM
Great ideas here guys..Think I will probably toss my Esbit and rethink...

Don't toss it. Put it in the "extra" gear box. You never know when you may need a backup...

hunter63
11-06-2015, 03:42 PM
I never "Toss" anything.....and still have gear I used for many years......some one will get it when I'm done with it...?????

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