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Ken
11-21-2009, 03:36 PM
Here we go again! :sneaky2:

The damned fool in charge of NORAD, General Gene Renuart, USAF, is wondering if our air-space is over-protected. Now, they're looking at whether or not current "threats" justify the air defense systems put in place after 9-11. I guess these sh!theads have forgotten that everyone asked why we were caught with our pants down 8 years ago.

It appears that keeping our fighter planes on alert and on patrol is "too expensive." I guess that spending money bailing out corrupt corporations and funding bullsh!t "stimulus" programs is more important than our national defense.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MANY REASONS WHY I BELIEVE OUR GOVERNMENT IS FAILING MISERABLY IN ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE! Even contemplating such a reduction is gross incompetence bordering on criminal negligence.

These people have the memory span and the intelligence of an amoeba. If this reduction is implemented and one, JUST ONE, American life is lost as a consequence, the person or people responsible for making such a decision should face a firing squad.

Here it is. WATCH A NEWS VIDEO ON THIS BULLSH!T!

http://video.foxnews.com/11766170/overprotected-airspace
Ken
11-21-2009, 03:49 PM
Here's a news article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jYwvgVgDc8M8SEcGSm7LS1oCnwsQ
Pal334
11-21-2009, 03:50 PM
I am shaking my head. They will never learn and bend to the willy nilly wind of pressure. Maybe a degree in history should be mandatory for all in our national chain of command.

I am starting to spread a protest. I have been doing this for years, but would exhort others to participate. Refuse to shake the hand of any politician on any and all levels. I know it is a minor display, but is something easy to do, and will leave an impression (however fleeting) on the alledged minds of our elected officials. We need to start somewhere to get through to them.
BENESSE
11-21-2009, 05:51 PM
Refuse to shake the hand of any politician on any and all levels.[/COLOR][/B]

They are too thick-skinned and out of touch to care unless you're a big time contributor to their campaign.
Money still talks and louder than ever.

But if it'll make you feel better, why not.
Pal334
11-21-2009, 05:57 PM
They are too thick-skinned and out of touch to care unless you're a big time contributor to their campaign.
Money still talks and louder than ever.

But if it'll make you feel better, why not.

I am a simple guy, it woud make me feel better. Every thing good starts with one small step.
BENESSE
11-21-2009, 06:04 PM
Every thing good starts with one small step.

True 'nough, Pal.
Doing anything beats sitting on your a$$ and complaining.
Pal334
11-21-2009, 06:06 PM
True 'nough, Pal.
Doing anything beats sitting on your a$$ and complaining.

THere ya go!!
Rick
11-21-2009, 07:58 PM
Oh, come on, Ken. It costs $50 million a week! $50 million. That's a lot of money. How on earth are we expected to pay the estimated $884 billion dollars it's expected to cost for health care? If we scrap a few unnecessary programs like NORAD, and, say, the Navy and perhaps even, oh, I don't know, how about Congress, then we might scrape enough cash together to pay for it. Priorities, my friend. It's all about priorities.
Ken
11-21-2009, 08:01 PM
:huh: Gee, I didn't realize..... I mean, well maybe, .......... Okay. :surrender:
Rick
11-21-2009, 08:03 PM
See? You need us moderator to clear things up. If you have any other questions, just ask.
Ken
11-21-2009, 08:04 PM
See? You need us moderator to clear things up. If you have any other questions, just ask.

I'm REALLY interested in that part about scrapping Congress.......... :innocent:
Rick
11-21-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm working on a complete revamp of the government. So far, I have Larry the Cable Guy sitting in the Oval Office, which is being renamed the Double Holer Office. Bill Engvall will be the Vice. Ron White will be Secretary of State. Pat Morita will be Secretary of Defense. Once he whips a "wax on, wax off" on our enemies they will be history. Porky Pig will be the under secretary....if you know what I mean...can you say Islam? I knew you could.

That's a rough cut. I'm still working on it.
Ken
11-21-2009, 08:15 PM
I nominate 2dumb for Court Jester! :innocent:
Rick
11-21-2009, 08:16 PM
Ooooh. I do like that idea! (scribbling on paper)
Ken
11-21-2009, 08:19 PM
If I was Attorney General, I would sue and criminally prosecute any state or city body or official that tried to violate the 2nd. Amendment. Just sayin'. :innocent:
Camp10
11-21-2009, 08:29 PM
If I was Attorney General, I would sue and criminally prosecute any state or city body or official that tried to violate the 2nd. Amendment. Just sayin'. :innocent:

You'd fill the federal prisons pretty quick!
Ken
11-21-2009, 08:34 PM
You'd fill the federal prisons pretty quick!

Actually, I had somewhere else in mind.......... :innocent:

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2dumb2kwit
11-21-2009, 09:39 PM
You'd fill the federal prisons pretty quick!

Easy fix. Start killin' inmates, until you have the room. As a side effect of my fix, I bet crime rates drop like never before! :innocent:
Rick
11-22-2009, 04:00 AM
They pass health care reform and I'll be piiiiiiiiiiiizzd. Not pi$$ed like I stepped in a pile of dog poo that my neighbor's dog left in my yard. Pi$$ed like I'm going to join you guys with the pitchforks and torches.
Camp10
11-22-2009, 08:22 AM
They pass health care reform and I'll be piiiiiiiiiiiizzd. Not pi$$ed like I stepped in a pile of dog poo that my neighbor's dog left in my yard. Pi$$ed like I'm going to join you guys with the pitchforks and torches.

I think I should open a pitchfork and torch store..there is going to be a run on them!
Ken
11-22-2009, 08:57 AM
They pass health care reform and I'll be piiiiiiiiiiiizzd. Not pi$$ed like I stepped in a pile of dog poo that my neighbor's dog left in my yard. Pi$$ed like I'm going to join you guys with the pitchforks and torches.

"Historic Health Care Bill Clears Senate Hurdle"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9C4GEUG1

Rick, start checkin' the bottom of your shoes. :innocent:

Sarky?
Pal334
11-22-2009, 03:43 PM
I was just thinking. If we should make a fundamental change in the way important decisions are made by our elected officials. By utilizing existing technologies we could move towards a true democratic process.
I would suggest using Virtual Private Networking (VPN) http://compnetworking.about.com/od/vpn/VPN_Virtual_Private_Networking.htm with an encryption token (example : VeriSign http://www.verisign.com/authentication/index.html?sl=t46270440360000013&gclid=COCvvp6rn54CFUlo5QodWw1lmw)

Set up a program by which registered voters join a VPN via the token (probably would be a cost to the voter for the token) and when a vote comes up, or an important decision is to be made a registered voter would visit a designated site and weigh in on a poll with their opinion. This would give the esteemed legislators near real time feeling for what their constituents are really thinking. Each “question” would be posted with associated documents (yep probably huge documents) would have a finite voting period (perhaps 72 hours) prior to any legislative vote, and then it closes. The results are “read only” to all parties and accessible by all "read only"(no need for a token or VPN access). And if your representative does not comply with his / her constituents it is instantly apparent and the record would be always available for review.

I am sure there are a few gaps in my proposal, but it is a germ of an idea to bring the “cretins” out into the light and make them accountable. And would also stop folks from whining, they have easy access to the system.
2dumb2kwit
11-22-2009, 04:09 PM
Pal, I think you are working under an incorrect assumption.

I don't think we are having a problem with the politicians knowing what the people want. I think we have the opposite problem. People (in general) don't have any idea what the politicians are voting on, or how it will affect them or this country. (And some just don't care.)

I still say that these bills should be written in language that the average citizen can read and understand.

I also think that "News" agencies need to report what the bills mean, and when the vote is taken, they need to report how each politician voted.
If they do not, or if they slant or mislead, they suffer great consequences.

I also think all "pork" should be reported on, with the list of who asked for it, and who benifits from it.
2dumb2kwit
11-22-2009, 04:15 PM
They pass health care reform and I'll be piiiiiiiiiiiizzd. Not pi$$ed like I stepped in a pile of dog poo that my neighbor's dog left in my yard. Pi$$ed like I'm going to join you guys with the pitchforks and torches.

Rick, If what I have read is correct, a lot of the health care stuff doesn't really kick in until 2013. You know....after the November, 2012 elections.

That being said, do you think people are going to figure a lot of things out, and get really ticked of....oh....I don't know......say, in December of 2012???:innocent: (Que Twilight zone theme song.)
Pal334
11-22-2009, 04:23 PM
Pal, I think you are working under an incorrect assumption.

I don't think we are having a problem with the politicians knowing what the people want. I think we have the opposite problem. People (in general) don't have any idea what the politicians are voting on, or how it will affect them or this country. (And some just don't care.)

I still say that these bills should be written in language that the average citizen can read and understand.

I also think that "News" agencies need to report what the bills mean, and when the vote is taken, they need to report how each politician voted.
If they do not, or if they slant or mislead, they suffer great consequences.

I also think all "pork" should be reported on, with the list of who asked for it, and who benifits from it.

Perhaps, but I do feel that sinse there is no immediate action, they ignore the public will in favor of the political expedience. This idea would get "people in the game" and gives instant feed back on "those peoples " actions. As for the media taking a role,they have distorted things enough. As for those that just don't care, tough c**p for them. I don't want us dumbied down for them. And I do believe that shortly after this starts (I am a dreamer) you would see the language being simplified, because "they" would actually have to read them! Well, the pork would be right there, on the net for everyone and their brother and sister to read!!!!

Bring the cockroaches out into the light.

Mmm getting down from my soap box, need a cup of coffee
2dumb2kwit
11-22-2009, 04:31 PM
Perhaps, but I do feel that sinse there is no immediate action, they ignore the public will in favor of the political expedience. This idea would get "people in the game" and gives instant feed back on "those peoples " actions. As for the media taking a role,they have distorted things enough. As for those that just don't care, tough c**p for them. I don't want us dumbied down for them. And I do believe that shortly after this starts (I am a dreamer) you would see the language being simplified, because "they" would actually have to read them! Well, the pork would be right there, on the net for everyone and their brother and sister to read!!!!

Bring the cockroaches out into the light.

Mmm getting down from my soap box, need a cup of coffee

LOL....I have said before, that we should test politicians, to verify that they have read and understand every bill that they vote on. And I mean put them on trial for dereliction of duty, if they haven't done their job! :smash:
Rick
11-22-2009, 05:28 PM
What we need is a complete revamp.

Thank you for calling the White House. Please listen carefully as our menu has changed. For English, press 1. For any other language, press 2 and be connected to Rosetta Stone where you can sign up to learn English. After you complete your classes, please come back and press 1.

To explain to the President how the hog ate the cabbage, Press 3
To explain to the Secretary of State how it's done in your neck of the woods, Press 4
To explain to the Secretary of Defense what the term "defense" means, Press 5
To listen to a terrorist being waterboarded, Press 6 again and again and again
To order a genuine jar of pork fat to dip your bullets in, Press 7
2dumb2kwit
11-22-2009, 05:31 PM
They pass health care reform and I'll be piiiiiiiiiiiizzd. Not pi$$ed like I stepped in a pile of dog poo that my neighbor's dog left in my yard. Pi$$ed like I'm going to join you guys with the pitchforks and torches.


Rick, If what I have read is correct, a lot of the health care stuff doesn't really kick in until 2013. You know....after the November, 2012 elections.

That being said, do you think people are going to figure a lot of things out, and get really ticked of....oh....I don't know......say, in December of 2012???:innocent: (Que Twilight zone theme song.)


I mean, think about it. Old guys in thongs, protesting cheap Govco laxatives....pitchfork in one hand, Twinkie in the other......chanting "heck no, we can't go"......

That would no longer be the world, as I knew it!:innocent:
Rick
11-22-2009, 05:33 PM
So sad. True, but sad.
Ken
11-22-2009, 05:33 PM
*Nasally Voice Answers*

"I'm sorry, the number you have reached, 202-456-1414, is being checked for trouble. Please try your call again in 2013."
Ken
11-22-2009, 05:35 PM
The reason the health care legislation won't take effect until 2013 is, in part, because it will take that long to amend it (i.e. make it even worse) and to write the 20,000 pages of Federal Regs (Code of Federal Regulations) necessary to implement it. :sneaky2:
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