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Sarge47
10-21-2009, 11:40 PM
If you could only take_________(enter really low number here.) What would you take. That's the way these things always start out, & I, as a magician & a mentalist, (that's right, even my wife says I'm mental.) can predict that most will choose, if say the #3 is the magic #, a blade, fire starter, and a pot of some sort. Blankets will be an alternate. Tell you what; you pick the area, you have a small pack, BDUs with plenty of pockets, & a strong belt. Trustworthy outer wear, for rain or snow or whatever, as well as good footwear. Here's the limit: no more than 20 pounds in your pack; and you can also add to that whatever you can put in your pockets & on your belt! Ready! Set! Go! :cool2:

pocomoonskyeyes
10-22-2009, 12:00 AM
Sarge that is TOO easy! I would just take my BOB and still have room to add some food!! My BOB only Weighs..... Less than 10 lbs without food and water in the bladder. So add 3 liters of water weight.about 5 lbs.approx. and my sleeping bag 3 Lbs. I can add 1lb. of Beans and 1lb. of rice = 20 lbs (approx.) I have a first aid kit,fishing stuff, firestarting stuff,signalling stuff,and a couple of knives. If I can add to what I am carrying already at this moment I would add my Ontario 12" machete,My Tomahawk, My Sierra folding Saw. If I have BDU's (My preference)I would add 1 book in a cargo pocket and I'm set. book = Outdoor Survival Skills by Larry Dean Olsen.

Sarge47
10-22-2009, 07:39 AM
Sarge that is TOO easy! I would just take my BOB and still have room to add some food!! My BOB only Weighs..... Less than 10 lbs without food and water in the bladder. So add 3 liters of water weight.about 5 lbs.approx. and my sleeping bag 3 Lbs. I can add 1lb. of Beans and 1lb. of rice = 20 lbs (approx.) I have a first aid kit,fishing stuff, firestarting stuff,signalling stuff,and a couple of knives. If I can add to what I am carrying already at this moment I would add my Ontario 12" machete,My Tomahawk, My Sierra folding Saw. If I have BDU's (My preference)I would add 1 book in a cargo pocket and I'm set. book = Outdoor Survival Skills by Larry Dean Olsen.Too easy? You failed to mention the most important thing! (BTW, why does it have to be hard?) :cool2:

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 08:09 AM
A GPS, a knife and 10 million dollars.

pocomoonskyeyes
10-22-2009, 08:45 AM
Too easy? You failed to mention the most important thing! (BTW, why does it have to be hard?) :cool2:
Sarge I think the real purpose of the " If you could only take X number of items" is to get us using the most important Tool in any survival situation - your brain. It makes you think about what is important and why,It also makes you realize just where your weaknesses are and what you can improve upon. If I could flintknap like FVR , Canid or Crash I wouldn't really need a knife, I could make all my own tools. If I could weave I wouldn't need a blanket. If I could work pottery I wouldn't need a pot. Etc.,etc. Someones Signature (can't remember who) says "the more you know the less you have to carry". Which is true. Native Americans knew all that stuff and survived a long time without Knives,pots,and Blankets,as we know them today.
BTW what did I forget in my post?

A GPS, a knife and 10 million dollars.

Sorry BENNESSE but you are over the weight limit, I think. Not exactly sure how much 10 million dollars would weigh, but I think it would be more than 20 lbs.

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 09:03 AM
Sorry BENNESSE but you are over the weight limit, I think. Not exactly sure how much 10 million dollars would weigh, but I think it would be more than 20 lbs.

I'd take that in $500 bills...that should be under 20lbs just for the pack.
Then there are the pockets.
(I suppose I can also throw in some loose diamonds, what the hey.)

But I guess that's not the answer Sarge was looking for.

aflineman
10-22-2009, 10:05 AM
I'd take that in $500 bills...that should be under 20lbs just for the pack.
Then there are the pockets.
(I suppose I can also throw in some loose diamonds, what the hey.)

But I guess that's not the answer Sarge was looking for.

In $100 bills, $1M is just over 22lbs so the $500 bill idea would be feasible to keep you under 20lb. :D

finallyME
10-22-2009, 10:05 AM
http://www.sci-stor.com/store/files/product_images/t_16611.jpg

Sure you can do without these, but do you really want to?

rwc1969
10-22-2009, 11:17 AM
Spring/ Fall for a 2-4 week outing in a wilderness area typical of the midwest w' multiple water sources, game and fish.

Day Pack: 1 box of 1 gallon ziploc freezer bags, 5 lighters, 1 gal. ss pot, fry pan, 2-1 litre pop bottles, 2 qt. plastic bowl, plate, fork and spoon, Spatuladle, 2 lbs. instant taters, 1 lb. instant milk, 1 lb. flour, 1 lb. corn meal, 2 lbs. beans, 3 lbs. rice, seasoning, oil, vitamins, basic first aid kit w' mirror, needle, scissors and tweezers, toothbrush, shampoo, toothpaste, small amount of bleach, 1 roll of cheap commercial paper towels, the thin stuff in public restrooms, 3 extra pairs socks and tennis shoes, extra flannel, extra jeans, towel, washcloth.

That is under 20 lbs, pack included and it will fit inside my day pack except for the extra clothing which I'll tie to the outside of pack wrapped in plastic.

Body/ Belt/ Pockets: fixed blade and folding knives, lighter, compass, gps, mini-maglite x2 extra batteries, 4 man dome tent, tarp, plastic, 50' rope, 2 blankets, hatchet, rifle, ammo, and fishing rod, reel, hooks, line, tools and oil for rifle and reel.

This would have some weight, 20 to 30 lbs., and I'd like to rig it to my body rather than just fasten it to my belt. If I couldn't then I'd forego the rifle, rod reel, ammo, toolkit and oil and instead take several spools fishing line in various strenghts, thin wire, needle nose pliers, trot line and hooks of various sizes.

Sarge47
10-22-2009, 05:18 PM
Sarge I think the real purpose of the " If you could only take X number of items" is to get us using the most important Tool in any survival situation - your brain. It makes you think about what is important and why,It also makes you realize just where your weaknesses are and what you can improve upon. If I could flintknap like FVR , Canid or Crash I wouldn't really need a knife, I could make all my own tools. If I could weave I wouldn't need a blanket. If I could work pottery I wouldn't need a pot. Etc.,etc. Someones Signature (can't remember who) says "the more you know the less you have to carry". Which is true. Native Americans knew all that stuff and survived a long time without Knives,pots,and Blankets,as we know them today.
BTW what did I forget in my post?


Sorry BENNESSE but you are over the weight limit, I think. Not exactly sure how much 10 million dollars would weigh, but I think it would be more than 20 lbs.Yeah, 10 Mil might be over the weight limit. If somebody'll send me 10 mil I'll weigh it & get back to you. :innocent: Poco, all the stuff you just mentioned here only works if you're not disabled. The other thing you mentioned here is your brain, & THAT is the most crucial item! Get hurt & risk all kinds of nasty stuff! Use your brain & make that 1st aid kit, along with the knowledge of how to use it, priority #1! Remember that the brain is the key. It builds on that knowledge, both in the classroom & in the field. So when you think about only 3 things to take, for example, & you haven't mentioned the brain, you've goofed! What, you gonna get a lobotomy? Otherwise you've still got 4! :innocent::sneaky2::cool2:

lucznik
10-22-2009, 05:41 PM
Personally, I try to leave my brain at home as often as possible. I'm not very adept at using it and if I keep it in "as new" condition maybe someday my wife can get a good price for it on the medical black market...

As to gear, my pack would likely contain some variation of the following:

Gear
Small First Aid Kit
Flashlight
75' Paracord
Nikon CoolPix L18
Garmin Foretrex 101
Mini Orienteering Compass (Sun)
Insect Repellent (100% Deet)
Mini Book of Scriptures
Toilet Paper

Hunting - Field Care
Ammunition
Topo Map
BuckLite Folder
Knife Sharpener
Small fishing kit

Shelter
Backpack (Kelty Tongass)
Bivy Tent
Closed Cell foam pad
Sleeping Bag (Kelty 25* Down)
Black Lawn and Garden Bags

Food & Cooking
Milsurp Aluminum half-canteen container/pot
Plastic "Spork" (Light My Fire)
Granola Bars (Nature Valley)
Jerky (Home made)
Hard Candy Lemon Drops
Peanut, Peanut Butter, and Almond M&Ms
GORP
Crackers

Water
Hydration System (Fieldline)
Water Purification tablets (Potable Aqua)

This gear totals 18.5 lbs.

In my pockets, on my belt, or otherwise on my person I would have:

Ink Pen
Small "Bic" lighter
Watch (timex Expedition)
Kleenex
Leather Work Gloves
Handgun
Ammo
Binocular
Victorinox Fieldmaster
Petroleum-impregnated cotton balls
FireSteel
Cell phone
Flashlight
Small fixed-blade knife (RMEF Skinner)

Sourdough
10-22-2009, 05:50 PM
Sarge, I am NOT sure that Brain is the most important element. Important yes, I am shifting to the position that the most important factor is perseverance, after defeat, after defeat. Call it the classic "Rocky" syndrome. To be able to be beat to SH!T, and not quit, to be totally defeated, and fight again.

lucznik
10-22-2009, 05:54 PM
Native Americans knew all that stuff and survived a long time without Knives,pots,and Blankets,as we know them today.


This is true, but we should also remember that, more often than not, they died very young, often from starvation, disease, and/or exposure.

Bibow
10-22-2009, 06:10 PM
Sarge, I am NOT sure that Brain is the most important element. Important yes, I am shifting to the position that the most important factor is perseverance, after defeat, after defeat. Call it the classic "Rocky" syndrome. To be able to be beat to SH!T, and not quit, to be totally defeated, and fight again.
__________________
I think he said something like ;"it's not how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit". I agree with that.

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 06:13 PM
Yeah, 10 Mil might be over the weight limit. If somebody'll send me 10 mil I'll weigh it & get back to you. :innocent:

Actually I checked ahead knowing that someone's gonna question it.

1 mil=10lbs of $100 bills
so....using the most important tool I've got-- my brain--I've figured that:
10mil in $500 bills weighs 20lbs

You never know when you might need this info.

crashdive123
10-22-2009, 06:16 PM
Although the $500, $1000 and $10000 bills are no lnger in production, it sure would be cool to have a few packs laying around the house.

Sourdough
10-22-2009, 06:24 PM
I think he said something like ;"it's not how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit". I agree with that.

I am going to do a thread on this later......But I think I have been wrong (Well, Kind of) in my calling for members to practice working physical hard labor, it is kind-a that, but more about the day after day, after day, after day, of keeping on.....keeping on.

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 06:28 PM
I am going to do a thread on this later......But I think I have been wrong (Well, Kind of) in my calling for members to practice working physical hard labor, it is kind-a that, but more about the day after day, after day, after day, of keeping on.....keeping on.

What would the alternative be?

Sourdough
10-22-2009, 06:52 PM
What would the alternative be?


Well, about an hour a go, I was kind of crying.......Not balling, but just lightly crying. I was tired of digging for hours by hand, and I had the forming boards nearly all set up, and while getting them perfect, they all fell down. It is 36* above and raining, I am cold and wet, and I want to quit. But there are three more pads to be dug, and concrete to mixed and rebar to cut and bent. It is 2:45 PM Alaska Daylight time, time is short.......Dark is coming, and I still have to pack the concrete to the site, get it hand mixed, and insulated before the temperature drops. I should be done for the day by 6:PM. My point is what will defeat most people, as it is defeating me now, is the hardness of it all, the day after day hardness of it all. I thought it was the work, but it is the defeat, and the physical and mental ability to dig with-in ones-self for one more effort. And now I must start mixing concrete. Later......:)

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 07:21 PM
Well, about an hour a go, I was kind of crying.......Not balling, but just lightly crying. I was tired of digging for hours by hand, and I had the forming boards nearly all set up, and while getting them perfect, they all fell down. It is 36* above and raining, I am cold and wet, and I want to quit. But there are three more pads to be dug, and concrete to mixed and rebar to cut and bent. It is 2:45 PM Alaska Daylight time, time is short.......Dark is coming, and I still have to pack the concrete to the site, get it hand mixed, and insulated before the temperature drops. I should be done for the day by 6:PM. My point is what will defeat most people, as it is defeating me now, is the hardness of it all, the day after day hardness of it all. I thought it was the work, but it is the defeat, and the physical and mental ability to dig with-in ones-self for one more effort. And now I must start mixing concrete. Later......:)

I get it.

In your case you chose that path.
Maybe it's not all that it's cracked up to be, but what is? If you put the good on one side of the scale and the bad on the other, would the good prevail? Probably, or you wouldn't be there.

Now if TSHTF and one had to do what you're doing just to survive, I'd guess most would at least try until they couldn't any longer. (I know I would.)
Because the alternative would be even worse to contemplate:
1.Starve to death, 2.Kill yourself, 3.Steal/Kill someone, 4.Get killed

That's where I was coming from.

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 07:30 PM
Forgot to add that if one was in a group where division of labor would be possible then
people would do what they know best and maybe rotate on the tough stuff so that some poor soul wouldn't be stuck doing it exclusively.

Similar to the set-up in "Patriots", my gold standard of organization in TEOTWAWKI.

Sarge47
10-22-2009, 08:18 PM
Sarge, I am NOT sure that Brain is the most important element. Important yes, I am shifting to the position that the most important factor is perseverance, after defeat, after defeat. Call it the classic "Rocky" syndrome. To be able to be beat to SH!T, and not quit, to be totally defeated, and fight again.I beg to differ; it all starts with the brain. All the knowledge, skills, muscle memory, etc. is started in the brain.
memory, adaptation, improvising, and so on and so forth. :cool2:

pocomoonskyeyes
10-22-2009, 10:22 PM
Yeah, 10 Mil might be over the weight limit. If somebody'll send me 10 mil I'll weigh it & get back to you. :innocent: Poco, all the stuff you just mentioned here only works if you're not disabled. The other thing you mentioned here is your brain, & THAT is the most crucial item! Get hurt & risk all kinds of nasty stuff! Use your brain & make that 1st aid kit, along with the knowledge of how to use it, priority #1! Remember that the brain is the key. It builds on that knowledge, both in the classroom & in the field. So when you think about only 3 things to take, for example, & you haven't mentioned the brain, you've goofed! What, you gonna get a lobotomy? Otherwise you've still got 4! :innocent::sneaky2::cool2:
So you are saying that the one thing I forgot was my brain!?!?!? Why not say I forgot my hands, or feet? It IS a part of my body,after all. If I don't have my brain then I don't have life.Therefore no need to worry(if that's even possible) about survival. Sarge I'm not trying to be rude, but please read my signature again.

This is true, but we should also remember that, more often than not, they died very young, often from starvation, disease, and/or exposure.
That is true, But with the extra knowledge available to us today, Combined with the knowledge they possessed, should/would give us an extra advantage.

Although the $500, $1000 and $10000 bills are no lnger in production, it sure would be cool to have a few packs laying around the house.
Correct me if I am wrong, I thought bills in these denominations were used ONLY between banks, Not by citizens.

I am going to do a thread on this later......But I think I have been wrong (Well, Kind of) in my calling for members to practice working physical hard labor, it is kind-a that, but more about the day after day, after day, after day, of keeping on.....keeping on.

OK you have had a really rough hard day with a lot of setbacks. This does not sound like the Sourdough/Hope I know. The Man I know works twice as hard as most here then scoffs at the lazy so-and-so's. You are having an off day,everyone does,I'm sure that you will bounce back to your usual spry self soon. I think you are just having your first case of "Winter Blahs".

Ken
10-22-2009, 10:34 PM
Although the $500, $1000 and $10000 bills are no lnger in production, it sure would be cool to have a few packs laying around the house.

I prefer...........
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/numismatics/moneyintrans/graphics/nnc100000b.jpg

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 10:35 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, I thought bills in these denominations were used ONLY between banks, Not by citizens..

Believe it or not, I've done the research (just for fun and because I hate to be wrong) and stores DO accept $500 bills (not above) even though the bills are not in circulation.
If that were not the case, I would have chosen a couple of pounds of perfect loose diamonds and carried cheetos and ring-dings for the rest of the weight.
But I figured, cash is king, so why not start there.

pocomoonskyeyes
10-22-2009, 11:01 PM
Believe it or not, I've done the research (just for fun and because I hate to be wrong) and stores DO accept $500 bills (not above) even though the bills are not in circulation.
If that were not the case, I would have chosen a couple of pounds of perfect loose diamonds and carried cheetos and ring-dings for the rest of the weight.
But I figured, cash is king, so why not start there.

Yeah but money can't buy me love.... Yeah, yeah,yeah!! Can't buy me love.
Never mind you may not even know the song.

crashdive123
10-22-2009, 11:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwZsFKIXa8

BENESSE
10-22-2009, 11:10 PM
Yeah but money can't buy me love.... Yeah, yeah,yeah!! Can't buy me love.
Never mind you may not even know the song.

Oh, I know the song.

Once I did a newspaper ad for Purdue chickens. A coupon was offered.
And the headline said:
"Money can't buy you love but it can get you a discount on tenderness."
(and of course Purdue chicken prided itself on being tender.)

Sourdough
10-23-2009, 07:01 AM
I beg to differ; it all starts with the brain. All the knowledge, skills, muscle memory, etc. is started in the brain.
memory, adaptation, improvising, and so on and so forth. :cool2:


My point is: Where can you make quantum growth.....? If you studied hard for ten days, you could not add 1/10th of .01% to your brain/intelligence. However you could double your toughness day after day for ten days. The military sends newbies to toughness training first. In my personal survival experiences, I have never said, "I which I was smarter", it was always, "I hope my body can physically go the distance".

BENESSE
10-23-2009, 08:02 AM
My point is: Where can you make quantum growth.....? If you studied hard for ten days, you could not add 1/10th of .01% to your brain/intelligence. However you could double your toughness day after day for ten days. The military sends newbies to toughness training first. In my personal survival experiences, I have never said, "I which I was smarter", it was always, "I hope my body can physically go the distance".

Both are important, but in extreme endurance challenging conditions your brain alone can only take you so far, I don't care how positive your attitude is.

When I first started running NYC marathons 4 years ago and to this day, there is NO way I could have finished if my body couldn't go the distance.
Couldn't think my way to the finish line if I'm not in shape. (But hey, that could just be me.)

The point is to develop both and know how to use them.
Should go without saying but sometimes you've got to remind yourself especially if you favor one over the other.

canid
10-23-2009, 11:29 AM
a snow mobile, an suv and a boat.

i think that covers most bases.

BENESSE
10-23-2009, 12:23 PM
a snow mobile, an suv and a boat.

i think that covers most bases.


We talking toys here, or are we beyond the 20lb limit?

Sarge47
10-23-2009, 05:07 PM
So you are saying that the one thing I forgot was my brain!?!?!? Why not say I forgot my hands, or feet? It IS a part of my body,after all. If I don't have my brain then I don't have life.Therefore no need to worry(if that's even possible) about survival. Sarge I'm not trying to be rude, but please read my signature again.I'm simply saying that you didn't mention it. Every time a list like this is requested we always seem to get a shopping list of gear, with a bladed implement usually at the top. However, no gear will work well without the trained mind to utilize it. Also, what type of area are you thinking of when you use your BOB? :cool2:

doug1980
10-23-2009, 05:19 PM
I'll bring me, myslef and I. If that enough than I guess I'm screwed.

pocomoonskyeyes
10-23-2009, 06:03 PM
I'm simply saying that you didn't mention it. Every time a list like this is requested we always seem to get a shopping list of gear, with a bladed implement usually at the top. However, no gear will work well without the trained mind to utilize it. Also, what type of area are you thinking of when you use your BOB? :cool2:

Well I just got a LARGER BOB so I'll have to scrap the old list as I can now add more stuff. The new BOB I could put both of our BOB's in, (mine and Dottie's) as they were nothing more than hunting style daypacks. Upgrading as we can. I ran into a hack of a deal on a military style MOLLE Pack in ACU camouflage. It is HUGE!!
The old BOB's had what I would consider the Bare Essentials. Snare wire fishing gear for gathering meat. Signalling gear(lights,whistles,Mirrors) Firemaking gear (lighters,flint and steel, Fire steel, char cloth, tinder) First aid Kit (one of the better ones from Wal-Mart. I would be planning on heading into a wooded area,somewhere I would have fuel for a fire,Wild Edibles,And Game... Wilderness survival stuff,even if it is in a suburban or even Urban setting. I am familiar with making debris huts,wickiups and wattlework shelters,using natural materials.

Rick
10-23-2009, 06:36 PM
Poco - Just don't overload that new toy. I'm sure Equus can carry it while you scout ahead but even she needs a break now and then.

BENESSE
10-23-2009, 06:54 PM
Since Poco brought up the idea of his new, larger BOB here's a question that's been weighing on my mind:

Is it a good idea to have identical items (save for some personal stuff) for both adult family members or would you vary?
For instance, if you both carry multi-tools would they be the same brand?
How about short wave radios, flash lights, etc.

I could see the logic in going either way, just curious about what you seasoned folk think.

Rick
10-23-2009, 07:01 PM
I guess most folks have a preference for one item over another. One brand of knife, for example or one brand of flashlight. If I find something I trust then I tend to stick with it in all the bags.

crashdive123
10-23-2009, 07:14 PM
Me too. When I stock the bags (except for clothing and personal hygiene) items are the same. I pack quite a bit more in mine just because of the ability to carry more, but where we've packed essentials that I know work - they're in both packs.

pocomoonskyeyes
10-24-2009, 06:39 AM
Poco - Just don't overload that new toy. I'm sure Equus can carry it while you scout ahead but even she needs a break now and then.
Ha Ha Very funny Rick.:)

I guess most folks have a preference for one item over another. One brand of knife, for example or one brand of flashlight. If I find something I trust then I tend to stick with it in all the bags.

I tend to fall in this category as well,however if something new comes along I do like to at least see it work. If someone I know has one I will "pick their brains" about it. If it is something better I will transition to that. The Jamboree is/was one such category of checking out what others have/use. Very informative in those "chats" alone!! I have since changed to a micro light that Crash showed me, And even found another one that I like even better. The Energizer 3 function micro light is what I am currently using/packing.

An update on my new BOB. It is so large that I can pack everything I was carrying and you can't even tell there is anything in it!!! Did I mention it is HUGE? I can't believe the size of it, it is a monster. I know I could put an average size Ice chest in it.

Rick
10-24-2009, 10:02 AM
Poco's new bag....

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/big-pack-1.jpg

pocomoonskyeyes
10-24-2009, 10:25 AM
Rick you and 2D2K have something in common you know that. You both provide comic relief. My new pack is only about 1/3 that size!!LOL

Edit : Here are some pics of the Pack so you can see for yourself,the size of it. I placed some books you may recognize on it for size comparison.

Rick
10-24-2009, 01:26 PM
Wait a minute. I thought you said it was smaller than my picture. That looks a LOT bigger to me.

pocomoonskyeyes
10-24-2009, 02:01 PM
Thousands of out of work Comedians.... Well at least we know where one of them is!! LOL One of these days you are going to have to tell me how you do it!! Insert that Tiny picture in a picture!! Man Do I feel small!!

Stony
10-25-2009, 01:40 PM
i do not wear BDU's, but functional work cloth
and not carry a pack but a cruisng vest, it contains alrady all
(GPS, Silva compass, first aid kit, note book, map in zip lock bag,....)

but lunch and satelite phone.
at the end of the day i find a opening large enough for a 206 or A-Star,
GPS the location and call for a lift back to town or camp,
depending where we are working.
yes, some of us are working in the bush for a living and have the option to call for a lift.

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