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rebel
10-20-2009, 08:05 AM
The WSF members equipment poll results. First, I want to thank you for your participation. I know I have learned from you and I’m sure other folks will too. This will hopefully be a tool for those wanting to know which piece of gear they should consider. This may help someone with their time and resources instead of the trial and error method. They can also look up the polls and see who posted on the particular piece of equipment and perhaps pm you with questions.
The following topics have been numbered from highest to lowest by the number of members who chose the same equipment.
Survival Manual: 1. Army Survival Guide.
2. Outdoor Survival Skills and SAS Manual.
Shelter: 1. Tent (Marmot Twilight 2p or undisclosed).
2. Tarp or Poncho.
3. Bivy bag.
4. Hammock (Hennessy Explorer Deluxe).
Fire starting: 1. Fire Steel (Blast match, Strike force, Swedish).
2. Lighter (BIC).
3. Matches.
4. Flint and Steel.
5. Torch sparker and Doan tool.
Water treatment: 1. Chemical (Katadyn, Chlorine tabs, Clorox bleach). It was
the common back-up method, that’s why it was #1.
2. Katadyn (Combi, Hiker).
3. MSR (Miniworks, Sweetwater).
4. Homemade.
First Aid: 1. Home made kits.
2. Commercial base (Gov. Surplus, Johnsons & Johnsons, Wilderness Adventure).
Signaling: 1. Whistle.
2. Cell phone and mirror.
3. Flash light.
4. Radio
5. Light stick and Fire.
6. Weapon
7. Flare and Lighter.
Cutting tools: 1. Hatchet (Estwing Sportsman, Sears Craftsman) and
Machete (Ontario, Corneta).
2. Saw (Gerber). Tomahawk (Allen Foundry “Frontier”,
Cold Steel “Trail Hawk”). Chainsaw ( Husquavarna,
Stihl).
3. Shovel (Spetznaz).
Fixed Knife: 1. Mora (780).
2. Kabar (USMC).
3. Home made, RAT (SERE, Izula, RC3), Buck (Nighthawk).
4. Camillus (Pilot Survival).
5. Tops (Tom Brown Tracker), Kershaw (Outcast), Benchmade (Bushmaster), Ranger (Rd7), Spyderco (Forager), Cold Steel (SRK, Master Hunter, Mini Pendelton Hunter), Becker Necker (bkII), Bark Rivers (Bravo 1), Livesay’s ( Air Assault).
Folding Knife: 1. Victorinox (Farmer, Recruit, Fieldmaster, Soldier).
2. Buck (110/ Folding Hunter, Buck Lite), CRKT (M-21, Crawford Falcon, M-16-13M)
3. Spyderco, Katana, Kershaw (Black Horse II, Blur),
4. Emerson (CQC7), Imperial, Ontario (Jump Master), Byrd (Cara Cara), Katana Strider (SnG), SOG (Twitch).
Multi-tool: 1. Leatherman (Wave, PST, Charge Ti, Original).
2. Gerber (T3, MPT).
3. Winchester and Victorinox.
Navigation: 1. Compass ( Silva 515CL , 515CLQ and A-10, Recta DP2,
Gov. Surplus Lensatic).
2. Back-up type compasses (pin-on and button).
3. GPS (Garmin 12 and E-trex, Lowrance).
Firearms:
Handguns: 1. Ruger Single Six.
2. 357 (Redhawk, Taurus, undisclosed).
3. Walther P-22, Glock (.40 , undisclosed),
4. Ruger MKIII, H & R M-929, Beretta Cougar 45, X-40, Ruger black powder (.44), Ruger (SR-9), Bersa (.380).
Shotgun: 1. Mossy 500. Remington 870 12 and 20 Ga.
2. Winchester Defender and 1300.
3. Remington 1100, H & R Single (12 Ga.), Savage M24C (.22LR / 20 Ga.), Ithaca 37, Valmet 412 (12/70).
Rifle: 1. Ruger 10-22, AR-15 (5.56 / 6.5 Grendel).
2. Marlin 336 ( 30-30), Ruger ( M77), Remington 700 (30-06), Ruger(Mini-14 and 30), AK.
3. Winchester Mdl 70 (270), Remington 700 ( 308), Springfield M6 (.22LR / .410 Ga.), Savage M24C (.22LR / 20 Ga.), Highpoint 995 (9 mm), Blackpowder Plains rifle (.54), Weatherby (30-06), Saiga (.223), Sako (.308), Glenfield 18, .22hw80k, Remington 742 (30-06).
COWBOYSURVIVAL
10-20-2009, 09:06 AM
Good Effort Rebel,
One thing though with statistics be aware that the amount of data is very important, I think a few would change with more data. Even given the relatively small sample size I think you got the right info on alot of these.
COWBOYSURVIVAL
10-20-2009, 09:39 AM
Example: I can't beleive boiling is not #1 on water purification?
rebel
10-20-2009, 10:12 AM
Due to the variables and different scenarios it's not a perfect list. Folks will have to use their common sense as to what they use and when they use it.
I thought it might help the new person in putting together some equipment. For example, if I were new to survival I might start with a manual and from looking at this list I would probably go with the Army survival manual. For fire starting I would want a fire steel, lighter and matches. For water treatment: A Katadyn or MSR with chemical back-up. Boiling may be an option.
I hope that helps to clarify the reasoning.
canid
10-20-2009, 10:26 AM
i would love to say i can't believe it either cowboy, but i assume there is concern about needing water sooner than one might make fire.
on another note: why carry water tablets, when doxycycline tablets are the same size. jk.
rwc1969
10-20-2009, 10:35 AM
Example: I can't beleive boiling is not #1 on water purification?
Me either!
Old GI
10-20-2009, 10:47 AM
Due to the variables and different scenarios it's not a perfect list. Folks will have to use their common sense as to what they use and when they use it.
I thought it might help the new person in putting together some equipment. For example, if I were new to survival I might start with a manual and from looking at this list I would probably go with the Army survival manual. For fire starting I would want a fire steel, lighter and matches. For water treatment: A Katadyn or MSR with chemical back-up. Boiling may be an option.
I hope that helps to clarify the reasoning.
Noteworthy effort, Rebel. I think the most benefit derived is to get people thinking all-the-more about stuff.
rebel
10-20-2009, 10:48 AM
Boiling... it's not considered equipment. I will delete it.
Thanks Rebel, I am sure the list will help some one out. And you have sparked a non political topic for a change.
-Sam
lucznik
10-20-2009, 12:18 PM
How is it possible that Man vs. Wild: Survival Techniques from the Most Dangerous Places on Earth by Bear Grylls did not rank higher on the survival manual's list?
Such an oversight calls the entire excercise's validity into question!!! ;-)
crashdive123
10-20-2009, 02:27 PM
How is it possible that Man vs. Wild: Survival Techniques from the Most Dangerous Places on Earth by Bear Grylls did not rank higher on the survival manual's list?
Such an oversight calls the entire excercise's validity into question!!! ;-)
He hasn't done the poll yet on comedy manuals.
Old GI
10-20-2009, 03:12 PM
Crash is a Baaaaad Man!!!!!!!!! OK, you beat me to it.
Really good effort. Though I cant believe Mora was 1. of the fixed blades... ;)
pocomoonskyeyes
10-20-2009, 04:29 PM
NCO you might as well accept it. A LOT of people actually like those little knives!! I've been in your shoes before though, Something I thought everyone else was crazy for liking,when I couldn't stand it!!
Justin Case
09-15-2010, 12:51 PM
The WSF members equipment poll results. First, I want to thank you for your participation. I know I have learned from you and Im sure other folks will too. This will hopefully be a tool for those wanting to know which piece of gear they should consider. This may help someone with their time and resources instead of the trial and error method. They can also look up the polls and see who posted on the particular piece of equipment and perhaps pm you with questions.
The following topics have been numbered from highest to lowest by the number of members who chose the same equipment.
Survival Manual: 1. Army Survival Guide.
2. Outdoor Survival Skills and SAS Manual.
Shelter: 1. Tent (Marmot Twilight 2p or undisclosed).
2. Tarp or Poncho.
3. Bivy bag.
4. Hammock (Hennessy Explorer Deluxe).
Fire starting: 1. Fire Steel (Blast match, Strike force, Swedish).
2. Lighter (BIC).
3. Matches.
4. Flint and Steel.
5. Torch sparker and Doan tool.
Water treatment: 1. Chemical (Katadyn, Chlorine tabs, Clorox bleach). It was
the common back-up method, thats why it was #1.
2. Katadyn (Combi, Hiker).
3. MSR (Miniworks, Sweetwater).
4. Homemade.
First Aid: 1. Home made kits.
2. Commercial base (Gov. Surplus, Johnsons & Johnsons, Wilderness Adventure).
Signaling: 1. Whistle.
2. Cell phone and mirror.
3. Flash light.
4. Radio
5. Light stick and Fire.
6. Weapon
7. Flare and Lighter.
Cutting tools: 1. Hatchet (Estwing Sportsman, Sears Craftsman) and
Machete (Ontario, Corneta).
2. Saw (Gerber). Tomahawk (Allen Foundry Frontier,
Cold Steel Trail Hawk). Chainsaw ( Husquavarna,
Stihl).
3. Shovel (Spetznaz).
Fixed Knife: 1. Mora (780).
2. Kabar (USMC).
3. Home made, RAT (SERE, Izula, RC3), Buck (Nighthawk).
4. Camillus (Pilot Survival).
5. Tops (Tom Brown Tracker), Kershaw (Outcast), Benchmade (Bushmaster), Ranger (Rd7), Spyderco (Forager), Cold Steel (SRK, Master Hunter, Mini Pendelton Hunter), Becker Necker (bkII), Bark Rivers (Bravo 1), Livesays ( Air Assault).
Folding Knife: 1. Victorinox (Farmer, Recruit, Fieldmaster, Soldier).
2. Buck (110/ Folding Hunter, Buck Lite), CRKT (M-21, Crawford Falcon, M-16-13M)
3. Spyderco, Katana, Kershaw (Black Horse II, Blur),
4. Emerson (CQC7), Imperial, Ontario (Jump Master), Byrd (Cara Cara), Katana Strider (SnG), SOG (Twitch).
Multi-tool: 1. Leatherman (Wave, PST, Charge Ti, Original).
2. Gerber (T3, MPT).
3. Winchester and Victorinox.
Navigation: 1. Compass ( Silva 515CL , 515CLQ and A-10, Recta DP2,
Gov. Surplus Lensatic).
2. Back-up type compasses (pin-on and button).
3. GPS (Garmin 12 and E-trex, Lowrance).
Firearms:
Handguns: 1. Ruger Single Six.
2. 357 (Redhawk, Taurus, undisclosed).
3. Walther P-22, Glock (.40 , undisclosed),
4. Ruger MKIII, H & R M-929, Beretta Cougar 45, X-40, Ruger black powder (.44), Ruger (SR-9), Bersa (.380).
Shotgun: 1. Mossy 500. Remington 870 12 and 20 Ga.
2. Winchester Defender and 1300.
3. Remington 1100, H & R Single (12 Ga.), Savage M24C (.22LR / 20 Ga.), Ithaca 37, Valmet 412 (12/70).
Rifle: 1. Ruger 10-22, AR-15 (5.56 / 6.5 Grendel).
2. Marlin 336 ( 30-30), Ruger ( M77), Remington 700 (30-06), Ruger(Mini-14 and 30), AK.
3. Winchester Mdl 70 (270), Remington 700 ( 308), Springfield M6 (.22LR / .410 Ga.), Savage M24C (.22LR / 20 Ga.), Highpoint 995 (9 mm), Blackpowder Plains rifle (.54), Weatherby (30-06), Saiga (.223), Sako (.308), Glenfield 18, .22hw80k, Remington 742 (30-06).
I know, I know, This is an older thread but I just wanted to Thank Rebel for the work he went to here ,, Thanks Reb !
RangerXanatos
09-15-2010, 01:38 PM
Thanks, I'm just now seeing it.
Rebel - First, some rep for taking the time to conduct the poll and provide the summation. Great job!!!! Second, I made this a sticky so folks can readily find it.
Third,
I cant believe Mora was 1. of the fixed blades...
Muhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! Come over to the dark side, Luke, I mean...NCO.
roar-k
09-15-2010, 01:52 PM
We could always do this once a year near, the end of the year, to see if anyone has changed their mind or found something new that replaced an item on the list.
Might be too much of a bother, but I thought I would throw that out there.
That's not a bad idea. Models will become obsolete. The Mora 780 for example is no longer made. Who knows, by next year Glock may no longer be made.
Alaskan Survivalist
09-15-2010, 01:55 PM
This may help someone with their time and resources instead of the trial and error method.
Not even close. I suggest you try things out for yourself because a good percentage of internet info and common perception is developed by people with no experience. Don't bet your life on internet info. Trying it out for yourself is the only way to know you can count on it when the time comes and to what extent you can rely on it. I'm still amazed that Native Dude was able to con so many on this forum.
But it does give them a place to start looking. If you've never owned item X then the list will give you some point of reference to begin trying things for yourself. I don't think anyone is suggesting risking their lives on this or any other info.
Justin Case
09-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Not even close. I suggest you try things out for yourself because a good percentage of internet info and common perception is developed by people with no experience. Don't bet your life on internet info. Trying it out for yourself is the only way to know you can count on it when the time comes and to what extent you can rely on it. I'm still amazed that Native Dude was able to con so many on this forum.
see post #4,,,
Alaskan Survivalist
09-15-2010, 02:24 PM
But it does give them a place to start looking. If you've never owned item X then the list will give you some point of reference to begin trying things for yourself. I don't think anyone is suggesting risking their lives on this or any other info.
Absolutely, and not just those starting out. I think most of us are always looking for something new or a better way but you have to use trial and error. I wish it was just trial and not error but I have been suckered by new products and info too many times. Trial and error is a part of your life if you are serious about survival. Sharing those experiences is what a forum should be about but like all forums you have to sift through a lot of crap to find it. It does provide you with options you may not have thought of just don't be surprized if it does not work out. There is a big difference between knowing something and believing something.
Sort of like dating isn't it?
rwc1969
09-16-2010, 02:02 AM
Good points AS.
I'm glad you brought this back up Scott as my views have changed on a couple things, but I still have my tried and true that I stick to.
Beans
09-17-2010, 03:26 AM
Sort of like dating isn't it?
Or Marriage.
Sometimes is just takes an experience or two before you get it right. :surrender:
OhioGrizzLapp
02-03-2011, 08:58 PM
Rick, Glocks not being made would only be one of my top 5 things to happen in this world and I never, ever get my wishes, Murphy always steps in. NCO might be the orig Mora hater but I am steadfast the most out spoken GLOCK hater this side of the Cuyahoga (river that catches on fire) (actually Cuyahoga means Crooked) river basin. Ya say Glock around me and I start to shiver and my neck swells up somptin aweful. Sadly, Glock is coming out with a AR15/M4 look alike (Made of dang plastic no less) next year..............Oh death, where is my sting. * sigh
natertot
09-03-2011, 12:08 AM
Example: I can't beleive boiling is not #1 on water purification?
I agree, I didn't see Iodine tablets either.
Iodine falls under chemical. Those listed are examples. Remember, too, that many are allergic to iodine and it makes the water taste like crap whereas filters do not.
Ratman
09-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Guys, i just came across this thread being new to the site. I know it is an old discussion.
However, in reviewing the list, and the discussion, I see that water purification has been discussed and boiling was talked about. But since "boiling" is not a piece of equipment, but a method, are there any thoughts as to equipment for that purpose. Obviously being at home and able to boil water in a pot would be the primary prospect. However, in a survival situation what choices are there for boiling water in the field? Assuming you have at least a fanny pack with survival gear, what would you want to have that would be small enough to fit within as well as light enough, but large enough to be worthwhile?
Hmmm. Good point. I'm not sure how that was overlooked. Since I carry a canteen and cup the cup would be first on my list. I suppose your question as to worthwhile is subjective but I could make that work pretty easily.
loganjeff7
10-27-2011, 02:18 PM
what about the sawyer purification system? good for a million gallons. anybody use one? thinking about getting one.
finallyME
10-27-2011, 03:14 PM
I have used the Sawyer Squeeze. I loved it, and want to buy one for myself (have only used other people's).
kyratshooter
10-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Also we should remember that the proposed "List" is also accompanied by many diuscussions of the "top three items", which often include the canteen/canteen cup along with some fire starting tool.
I have also noted as the years pass that we often refer to a "favorite method" or item and then wedo not actually use that item unless pressed to do so. Case in point, the ferro rod. Most of us have them and carry them in our gear but really start most of our fires with the trusty Bic lighter. The onbly time I use mine is when showing someone how it works.
As for boiling water, it is really seldom done unless in a disaster. Most of our woods work is planned and our filters and pills work very well for those purposes, espically in the volumes we need. One would be stopping to boil water at every creek crossing if they have only one bottle or canteen. It is much easier to pump the filter a few minutes or pop in a pill and keep moving.
And, as was stated, our opinions change over the course of a couple of years.
Winter
10-27-2011, 09:32 PM
Interestingly. My filter clogged up so bad on a trip, posted here somewhere, but I never mentioned it in the AAR.
We boiled drinking water after that. We had taken with us a 5 gallon pot to boil crab in and stow gear in. We used it as a cistern off the shelter and to boil in afterwards.
Drank alot of coffee as the water tasted like the wood we were burning.
ETA- my point, lol.
Rat is dead on in his assessment that boiling is a genuine survival method now and not what most campers/hikers do regularly. We didn't actually boil it, just made it hot enough for long enough to not worry about it.
The "Billy" can is a pint to liter sized metal can type deal that, when packed with your foodstuffs, doesn't take much room at all and is useful as all heck. Tent cistern, cooking, transporting fire, bailing, etc.
After a couple days in the cold and wet, a bowl of hot water to wash your hands and face in is absolutely wonderful.
el-amigo
01-26-2012, 07:38 AM
Here is my current bag what I always carry. It is very simple and basic kit for my one day hikes in the Hungarian mountains. Every feedback & advice is highly appreciated.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7313&d=1327576481
Winter
01-26-2012, 12:24 PM
Hard to see what you have there. What is in the little metal container?
el-amigo
01-26-2012, 12:35 PM
Hard to see what you have there. What is in the little metal container?
There are needle and threads in the metal container.
There are toilet paper and a rain cover at the left side. The stuff in the middle of the picture is clear. At the right side you can see my Hungarian military compass \o/, it has a great signalling mirror part, and there is my first aid kit. That's very simple kit for my daily needs. And I have some safety matches as well.
I also added a multi-use item to my pack.
Daniel Nighteyes
03-19-2012, 08:22 PM
[Responding to why Bear Grylls' work didn't rank higher] He hasn't done the poll yet on comedy manuals.
A hearty and resounding "AMEN, BROTHER!"
-- Nighteyes
P.S. I have always used my own priority list (which turns out to be very similar to "The Rule Of Threes") to determine what I have with me at all times. I always have
1. A rudimentary first aid kit (generally smaller than my wallet, btw, though capable of handling more than a simple cut/abrasion)
2. A cutting edge and some form of firestarter (lighter, etc.)
3. A means of collecting, purifying, holding and drinking water.
el-amigo
04-03-2012, 11:17 AM
I just bought a new rucksack for my daily public transportation...
http://www.military1st.co.uk/14002001-mil-tec-molle-us-assault-pack-small-olive.html
I have that, too. Don't forget that you can put a water bladder in it if you want.
el-amigo
04-07-2012, 03:43 AM
After using it some days, it is a very good and durable bag. I like it! Yes, there is a water pocket at its back panel.
bjohnson
07-10-2012, 11:37 PM
I am new to the forum I am really enjoying it so far lots of great stuff. I would add to this topic .I recently renewed my concealed to carry here in the great state of texas and someone asked which gun is the best to carry for self defense. the instructor answered the gun you feel the most confident and comfortable with. The equipmeant you carry. I do a lot of carpentry work and I swing a 22oz. hammer all day lots of people that would be to much hammer. they might want to drop down to a 16oz. I guess i am just saying wht someone else has allready said but you need to try severl things compare there differences and acces your proficincie with different items
.
Celticwarrior
07-11-2012, 12:21 AM
Survival Manual: How to Stay Alive in the Woods by Bradford Angier or Outdoor Survival Skills by Larry Dean Olsen
Shelter: 2 Person Backpack Tent (Sierra 4 season Convert)
Fire starting: Flint and Steel + Magnesium Bar w/Flint & Shaver/striker
Water treatment: Filter/Boil (Manual). Chemical backup with Katadyn Micropur Tabs.
First Aid: Homemade (combo of Red Cross recommendations, Military field medic kit, surgical and wound closure kit, and assorted trail meds like afterbite, benadryl, hydrocort cream, aspirin, quikclot, sunscreen, bug dope, glucose tabs, ipecac, activated charcoal, imodium and bismol tabs, stool softeners, eye and dental emergency care, dramamine, etc.
Signaling: Crank/Solar/Battery flashlight with red strobe and alarm feature. Backup: Storm pea-less whistle
Cutting tools: Machete (brush) and pocket chainsaw (wood)
Fixed Knife: Kukri
Folding Knife: Victorinox Swiss Champ SAK
Multi-tool: Leatherman Wave
Navigation: Compass (Lensatic) and star navigation
Firearms:
Handguns: Glock or H&K VP70z
Shotgun: Remington 870 12
Rifle: Remington 700 (30-06)
rickyt
05-14-2013, 08:01 AM
i am new but im really enjoying these type of things =)
MoschPit
02-01-2014, 09:25 PM
Due to the variables and different scenarios it's not a perfect list. Folks will have to use their common sense as to what they use and when they use it.
I thought it might help the new person in putting together some equipment. For example, if I were new to survival I might start with a manual and from looking at this list I would probably go with the Army survival manual. For fire starting I would want a fire steel, lighter and matches. For water treatment: A Katadyn or MSR with chemical back-up. Boiling may be an option.
I hope that helps to clarify the reasoning.
AWESOME and well put! Great reminder that we wall started off small and now some of us are falling over equipment and IDEA's for new and better!:clap:
Greenfox
02-21-2014, 08:56 PM
Just curious, but would it be feasible to assemble a "suit" like a hazmat suit using emergency blanket for interior lining and rain poncho material on the external, to serve in cooler climates? I've been somewhat thoughtful towards it and might even try to make something like that. obviously not using solely a sewing kit heh..
hunter63
02-21-2014, 09:09 PM
Just curious, but would it be feasible to assemble a "suit" like a hazmat suit using emergency blanket for interior lining and rain poncho material on the external, to serve in cooler climates? I've been somewhat thoughtful towards it and might even try to make something like that. obviously not using solely a sewing kit heh..
There ya, go....sounds like a project to me.....
pete lynch
02-22-2014, 06:43 AM
Yea, that would be something to do while you're waiting to be rescued! ;)
You can purchase tyvek coveralls for $6 bucks each. All white so it blends in with snow. You could slip it on over your clothes. I don't know how rugged they are however.
http://www.uline.com/BL_982/Tyvek-Protective-Clothing
crashdive123
02-22-2014, 06:26 PM
Just keep in mind that if you do use Tyvek suits (I use them a lot for work) that they do not breath at all. Be mindful of sweating.
Oh well, Oooooh. Stinky. Scratch that idea.
bob393
05-17-2014, 10:12 AM
Great job.
I too think the Mora is The fixed blade knife to carry. I even carry it in my daily lunch bag.
802OutdoorsLLC
05-25-2014, 07:43 AM
The WSF members equipment poll results. First, I want to thank you for your participation. I know I have learned from you and Im sure other folks will too. This will hopefully be a tool for those wanting to know which piece of gear they should consider. This may help someone with their time and resources instead of the trial and error method. They can also look up the polls and see who posted on the particular piece of equipment and perhaps pm you with questions.
The following topics have been numbered from highest to lowest by the number of members who chose the same equipment.
Survival Manual: 1. Army Survival Guide.
2. Outdoor Survival Skills and SAS Manual.
Shelter: 1. Tent (Marmot Twilight 2p or undisclosed).
2. Tarp or Poncho.
3. Bivy bag.
4. Hammock (Hennessy Explorer Deluxe).
Fire starting: 1. Fire Steel (Blast match, Strike force, Swedish).
2. Lighter (BIC).
3. Matches.
4. Flint and Steel.
5. Torch sparker and Doan tool.
Water treatment: 1. Chemical (Katadyn, Chlorine tabs, Clorox bleach). It was
the common back-up method, thats why it was #1.
2. Katadyn (Combi, Hiker).
3. MSR (Miniworks, Sweetwater).
4. Homemade.
First Aid: 1. Home made kits.
2. Commercial base (Gov. Surplus, Johnsons & Johnsons, Wilderness Adventure).
Signaling: 1. Whistle.
2. Cell phone and mirror.
3. Flash light.
4. Radio
5. Light stick and Fire.
6. Weapon
7. Flare and Lighter.
Cutting tools: 1. Hatchet (Estwing Sportsman, Sears Craftsman) and
Machete (Ontario, Corneta).
2. Saw (Gerber). Tomahawk (Allen Foundry Frontier,
Cold Steel Trail Hawk). Chainsaw ( Husquavarna,
Stihl).
3. Shovel (Spetznaz).
Fixed Knife: 1. Mora (780).
2. Kabar (USMC).
3. Home made, RAT (SERE, Izula, RC3), Buck (Nighthawk).
4. Camillus (Pilot Survival).
5. Tops (Tom Brown Tracker), Kershaw (Outcast), Benchmade (Bushmaster), Ranger (Rd7), Spyderco (Forager), Cold Steel (SRK, Master Hunter, Mini Pendelton Hunter), Becker Necker (bkII), Bark Rivers (Bravo 1), Livesays ( Air Assault).
Folding Knife: 1. Victorinox (Farmer, Recruit, Fieldmaster, Soldier).
2. Buck (110/ Folding Hunter, Buck Lite), CRKT (M-21, Crawford Falcon, M-16-13M)
3. Spyderco, Katana, Kershaw (Black Horse II, Blur),
4. Emerson (CQC7), Imperial, Ontario (Jump Master), Byrd (Cara Cara), Katana Strider (SnG), SOG (Twitch).
Multi-tool: 1. Leatherman (Wave, PST, Charge Ti, Original).
2. Gerber (T3, MPT).
3. Winchester and Victorinox.
Navigation: 1. Compass ( Silva 515CL , 515CLQ and A-10, Recta DP2,
Gov. Surplus Lensatic).
2. Back-up type compasses (pin-on and button).
3. GPS (Garmin 12 and E-trex, Lowrance).
Firearms:
Handguns: 1. Ruger Single Six.
2. 357 (Redhawk, Taurus, undisclosed).
3. Walther P-22, Glock (.40 , undisclosed),
4. Ruger MKIII, H & R M-929, Beretta Cougar 45, X-40, Ruger black powder (.44), Ruger (SR-9), Bersa (.380).
Shotgun: 1. Mossy 500. Remington 870 12 and 20 Ga.
2. Winchester Defender and 1300.
3. Remington 1100, H & R Single (12 Ga.), Savage M24C (.22LR / 20 Ga.), Ithaca 37, Valmet 412 (12/70).
Rifle: 1. Ruger 10-22, AR-15 (5.56 / 6.5 Grendel).
2. Marlin 336 ( 30-30), Ruger ( M77), Remington 700 (30-06), Ruger(Mini-14 and 30), AK.
3. Winchester Mdl 70 (270), Remington 700 ( 308), Springfield M6 (.22LR / .410 Ga.), Savage M24C (.22LR / 20 Ga.), Highpoint 995 (9 mm), Blackpowder Plains rifle (.54), Weatherby (30-06), Saiga (.223), Sako (.308), Glenfield 18, .22hw80k, Remington 742 (30-06).
I am new here to this forum, but not to forums in general or these types of topics. I perused this list and the thread and I'd like to offer some alternative items that I think all should have in their BOB/backpack:
- The book 'Where There is no Doctor'.
- The book 'Where There is no Dentist'.
- 'Hawke's Green Beret Survival Manual' and/or 'Hawke's Special Forces Survival Handbook'.
and in my opinion, two largest overlooked 'kits':
- a dental/oral hygiene daily care and first aid kit for the mouth. This is by far one of the most overlooked preps. Look at how many people you know that do not take care of their mouth and teeth now. Few understand the host of fatal events that can occur because of a simple impacted tooth and/or cavity.
- Laxatives and diarrhea management items. Long term hiking, bushcrafting, survival scenarios has the potential to wreak havoc on the digestive system. We all
know this. Build a kit that contains fiber gummies, Exlax, mineral oil, Ducolax, and the like. A severe bout of constipation can cause a fatality in many ways. The same for a bout of diarrhea. Diarrhea in the wild can cause dehydration, not to mention deplete your stores of fresh/available of H2O. In your kit throw in anti-diarrhea agents such as Kaopectate Multi Symptom Relief Tablets, available at any Rx store OTC.
To me, I view the books not so much for myself, but for someone that may stumble across me & find me weak and possibly dying. I can guide them to certain chapters that I think are applicable for the condition they find me in.
The Dental & Digestive Health kit is as important to me as my water purification/gathering methods and shelter skills. I don't know about you, but when I'm 'bound' up, I'm miserable and unproductive. The same when I am suffering the 'runs'. At home we're relatively safe with available resources, in the wild tho', either condition can be fatal.
Just my thoughts/contributions to the thread. As always, YMMV.
Lil K
06-23-2014, 08:58 PM
I am new here to this forum, but not to forums in general or these types of topics.
and in my opinion, two largest overlooked 'kits':
- a dental/oral hygiene daily care and first aid kit for the mouth. This is by far one of the most overlooked preps. Look at how many people you know that do not take care of their mouth and teeth now. Few understand the host of fatal events that can occur because of a simple impacted tooth and/or cavity.
- Laxatives and diarrhea management items. Long term hiking, bushcrafting, survival scenarios has the potential to wreak havoc on the digestive system. We all
know this. Build a kit that contains fiber gummies, Exlax, mineral oil, Ducolax, and the like. A severe bout of constipation can cause a fatality in many ways. The same for a bout of diarrhea. Diarrhea in the wild can cause dehydration, not to mention deplete your stores of fresh/available of H2O. In your kit throw in anti-diarrhea agents such as Kaopectate Multi Symptom Relief Tablets, available at any Rx store OTC.
To me, I view the books not so much for myself, but for someone that may stumble across me & find me weak and possibly dying. I can guide them to certain chapters that I think are applicable for the condition they find me in.
The Dental & Digestive Health kit is as important to me as my water purification/gathering methods and shelter skills. I don't know about you, but when I'm 'bound' up, I'm miserable and unproductive. The same when I am suffering the 'runs'. At home we're relatively safe with available resources, in the wild tho', either condition can be fatal.
#1: Welcome to the Forums! :)
#2: I agree 100%! In my opinion, taking very good care of your mouth and eyes are extremely important. Your eyes are kind of obvious, but your mouth is so crucial when surviving in the wilderness. Imagine you are taking a bite out of this mornings game and you crack a tooth on the bone... WHAT NOW? You are basically screwed unless you are traveling with a dentist or know a lot about oral/tooth reconstruction haha.
Woodsman44
01-11-2015, 04:29 PM
Great Minds really do think alike! I was amazed how many of my long time (some I have carried for 15-20 yrs), standard, go to items are listed in 1 or 2 place.
anozira
08-23-2015, 12:00 AM
Firearms:
Handguns: 1. Ruger Single Six.
2. 357 (Redhawk, Taurus, undisclosed).
3. Walther P-22, Glock (.40 , undisclosed),
4. Ruger MKIII, H & R M-929, Beretta Cougar 45, X-40, Ruger black powder (.44), Ruger (SR-9), Bersa (.380).
A lot of you guys have more experience than I do so it was comforting to see most of my picks made the list. In fact, mostly number one, always better than the bottom. Except the hand gun. I go with the 1911 .45ACP. Why wasn't that chosen? It's no heavier than some of the ones on the list and the capacity is similar or better.
If I'm missing something, please clue me in.
natertot
08-23-2015, 12:05 AM
A lot of you guys have more experience than I do so it was comforting to see most of my picks made the list. In fact, mostly number one, always better than the bottom. Except the hand gun. I go with the 1911 .45ACP. Why wasn't that chosen? It's no heavier than some of the ones on the list and the capacity is similar or better.
If I'm missing something, please clue me in.
Might want to re-research that. It will answer your question.
anozira
08-23-2015, 08:14 PM
I appreciate the reply. I don't want to be argumentative; I'm here to learn. But of the ones I have access to to weigh:
Ruger Single Six, .22, 5 33 oz, 6 rounds
Ruger Mark I, .22 4" 34 oz, 9+1 rounds
Ruger Blackhawk .357 Mag, 4 58 40 oz, 6 rounds
AVERAGE - 35.7 oz
1911A1 45ACP, 5 38.4 oz, 7+1 rounds
That's with magazine but no ammo. I'm using the Mark I to stand in for the Mark III and the SA Blackhawk to stand in for the DA Redhawk in the survey.
Either .22 LR beats either of the heavier calibers by 4 or 5 ounces. Blackhark is marginally heavier than the 1911.
I would understand arguments that the revolver is simpler with less to break or need adjustment than a semi. Likewise one can argue that there is a version of the Ruger revolvers that comes with two cylinders for ammo versatility - .22LR and .22Mag and for 9mm/.38/.357.
I'm curious what reason the people that rejected the 1911 had for that choice.
hunter63
08-23-2015, 08:29 PM
My go to are similar to the list as well....but I don't consider the 1911 .45 an ideal foraging and woods self protection firearm.
My main reason for the list.......
If strictly for self protection, 2 legged.... a auto loader pistol could be .9mm, 40 mm, .45 but would opted for a double stack.
I gonna say my choices are not all weight related....but more to versatility.
Your mileage may vary, and your choices are arrived at, for your reasons....no problem with that.
The is no wrong answer, and this is a discussion, not an argument...so your opinion is as good as any one else's.
I carry a double stack .45 when in the woods. It's an XD 45 Service model. It's protection only. If I had to carry something for foraging it would be my Single Six with the WMR cylinder. Everyone has their own comfort level.
WalkingTree
08-24-2015, 09:06 PM
Sometimes what applies is the fact that a small person can wield a small sword as effectively as a big person wielding a heavier sword...or...a big person can maneuver a big sword as fast and effectively as the small person wields his lighter sword.
But this is only a fancy metaphor, and carries only so far when discussing firearms. When it comes to handguns...even a small person might want a heavy one with a big punch, it's weight keeping it steady and reducing the kick, but the small person still needing to learn how to handle the big thing, and you get a big punch which won't ricochet off of windshields and will take care of business. To an extent, it's the big person who can make a lighter handgun that still punches hard, work.
Disclosure: I have some, but little personal experience with firearms and knowledge of particular models. So I'm sure that I'm talking out of my rear a little. (Hehe, but I can teach you how to sword fight very effectively.)
hunter63
08-24-2015, 09:40 PM
Never bring a sword to a gun fight.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE
kyratshooter
08-24-2015, 11:47 PM
A lot of you guys have more experience than I do so it was comforting to see most of my picks made the list. In fact, mostly number one, always better than the bottom. Except the hand gun. I go with the 1911 .45ACP. Why wasn't that chosen? It's no heavier than some of the ones on the list and the capacity is similar or better.
If I'm missing something, please clue me in.
For one thing that list is a couple of years old and some of us have been dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century since our votes were taken.
The firearms list is like the knife list, just because something did not show up does not mean it was not there.
On any given day or month the average age of the members, their personal preferences and what they could afford at the moment might have influenced the count. The younger the member average the more 9mm shooters are going to be in the mix, and the more newbies there are the more .22s.
I am an old coot, and I have a rash of 1911 pistols, couple of 45acp revolvers that are older than anyone on this forum, but in 2013 I made the mistake of asking to be introduced to a Taurus 24/7 OSS .45 acp and realized that the designers of that pistol had cured every gripe I had ever had with the 1911 design and had given me as much magazine capacity as a Browning HP. It came home with me and the 1911 pistols are only fired as match and range toys now and seldom ever carried.
That being said I normally carry a 38/357 revolver as my woods/foraging gun, but I have been known to tote a .44 magnum on occasion and my daily carry gun is a 380 in summer and a 9mm in winter, if I am not carrying a .38 snub-nose at that moment.
That should clear things up but if not the fact remains that we don't hold your favorite carry gun against you no matter what it is. Randy T might show up with a .455 bulldog and we don't want to hurt his feelings, he's a good guy and all.
DSJohnson
08-26-2015, 12:14 AM
I kind'a wish some one would take on the task of updating this. I think it is a great list as is. Just kind of curious how it would go now. Great idea and I have really enjoyed the thread also.
DSJohnson
05-26-2016, 01:30 AM
Dang, Still hoping some poor soul needs a project here.
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