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rebel
10-14-2009, 08:55 PM
Unless you want to add another catagory I think this will be the end of our polls for the recommended equipment list. I appreciate your responses and I will try to put it together next week. Please list your prefered firearm for handgun, shotgun and rifle. I know there are too many variables to limit your choices to one in each group. Perhaps later we can expand the list to include sub-catagories. Thanks!

Handgun: .22LR. I'd take a .22 handgun just not mine. I have a P-22. It's O.K. I can think of better 22 handguns for survival. On a 1 to 10 scale I'd give it a 6.

Shotgun: 12 GA. Remington 870. Good for game and camp defense. A 10 on the 1 to 10 scale.

Rifle: 270. Winchester M-70. Accurate and reliable. Never had a problem with it so, a 10.

What can you recommend or not recommend?
MilVetPatriot
10-14-2009, 09:08 PM
I have a similar set up.

Pistol: .22 cal P-22 - id have to agree with you, a very nice firearm, but I can think of more appropriate .22 pistols for survival.
Shotgun: Remington model 870, I made the decision to get mine in 20 gauge. Just personal preference. Its a little lighter and for what i use it for 20 gauge is all I need.
Rifle: .223 Ruger Mini-14, i actually own 3 of them. But the one I use most of is an early 80's model. Still in very good condition. I think these rifles are some of the best ever made for the price. You can pick up and older used one in the $300 range. Not to heavy, shorter than you average rifle, and .223 is an awesome round. Wont burn a hole in your wallet, not bad distance either. The ONLY complaint I have about the Ruger mini-14 is that you cant use Military M-16 style mags as you can on most other .223 cal rifles. You have to use the mags from the factory. But they do come in 5, 10, 20, 30rds and so on.
crashdive123
10-14-2009, 09:16 PM
So many choices, so little time.
SARKY
10-14-2009, 09:25 PM
Ruger MKIII hunter model
Mossy 500 w/extra rifled barrel
AR-15 chambered in 6.5Grendel w/possible spare upper in 5.56
glockcop
10-14-2009, 10:00 PM
Pistol: Stainless Ruger Single Six with .22 mag cyl. in place.
Shotgun: Remington 870 12g with 26" choke system barrel, and 18" imp cyl
Rifle: Ruger M77 in 30-06 or .308, Rem 700 in 30-06 or .308, and Marlin 336 in 30-30 (all great guns)

My stainless Ruger M77 in 30-06 is a clover leaf producing deer hammer and have a hard time justifying to myself that I "need" another hunting rifle but a Rock River Arms AR in .308 is not far off for me. I also have a blue and wood Ruger M77 in 7mm Rem Mag. It is also waaaayyy more accurate than it should be being a bone stock rifle. I prefere the 30-06 over the 7mm Mag due to it's lower recoil. All that being said my Marlin 336 in 30-30 gets 70% of my hunting time going after deer and hogs. Gotta love a Marlin lever action! Best.
mccaw69
10-14-2009, 10:52 PM
.22 cal revolver 4" bbl
12 ga. h&r single shot shotgun
cant beat the dependability factor.
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Sam
10-14-2009, 11:47 PM
Ruger single six in .22lr/.22mag with 6.5 in barrel
Winchester mod. 13 pump gun w/26in barrel 12ga.
Springfield Armory M-6 in .22lr/.410

I feel confident I can get food with any or all of these firearms, and as far as defense anything that comes to hand is what I tend to use.
-Sam
Mertell
10-15-2009, 03:57 AM
This is tough, but here goes:

Rifle: Savage M24C (Camper) .22LR/20 gauge 3" Improved Choke
Shotgun: Same. (This gun is so versatile, I'd take two of them.)
Handgun: Harrington and Richardson M929. .22 LR, nine shot revolver.

-Mert
Rick
10-15-2009, 07:02 AM
Handgun: Ruger Single Six with .22 mag cylinder
Shotgun: Remington 1100 with modified choke
Rifle: The only rifles I have are in 9mm so it would be my Highpoint 995

EDIT: Oops. Forgot about the .22s. Ruger 10/22 for me.
Ole WV Coot
10-15-2009, 08:45 AM
If you are talking survival: Ruger Single Six 22 & 22mag 6 1/2" bbl SS
Winchester Defender 12ga
Ruger 10-22
If I had plenty of ammo Beretta Cougar 45
Rem. 870
Marlin 336 30-30
FVR
10-15-2009, 07:43 PM
Trust Mossberg 500. Nothing fancy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/mossberg500.jpg

22 Mag/LR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-013S.jpg

All the rifle I need, 54 cal. Plains Rifle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-035S-1.jpg
Pict
10-15-2009, 11:23 PM
I've got my options in this poll. Rifles should be broken down between centerfire and rimfire. I don't think a survival battery is complete without both.

Wilderness Survival

Ruger Single-Six
Rem 870 12 ga or Ithaca 37 (the 37 handles ice really well)
Ruger 10-22
Rem 700 .30-06

Fighting for Survival

Glock - Pick your flavor mine are 9mm
Rem 870 - 20 inch non-rifled barrel, extended mag optional
AK or AR - My AK is in the closet my AR is in a safe

Mac
rwc1969
10-16-2009, 12:41 AM
Don't know about pistols! I suppose if I were gonna own one it'd be the Redhawk in .357 or a Glock.

I miss my 10/22, but my Glenfield 18 shot is very accurate and dependable...for 40+ years running now. :)

I've owned post eighties Rem. 870 and Mossberg 500 and both fell short of perfect for me.

The mini 30 is fairly dependable.
wilf123
10-17-2009, 12:08 PM
all i need is my dependable old weirach .22 hw 80k its all i can carry over here and i dont have to worry about in camp coz we aint got no bears over here,only thing big enough to give me any problems in camp or out in the woods is a squirrel and i dont shoot them .all that firepower you guys are carrying is enough to start a mini war .
AVENGED
10-17-2009, 01:36 PM
XD .40
Rem 870 26"
Rem 742 30-06

Looking At A Mini 14, I'm 5'7 125lbs. So I'm In The Market For Something A Tad Lighter
doug1980
10-17-2009, 02:08 PM
Shotgun: Winchester 1300
Rifle: .270 or 30-06 and a 10/22
Handgun: 44 magnum
wilf123
10-17-2009, 04:43 PM
show offs to many guns to carry in one gun case anyway. All i need to survive is my rifle and me
2dumb2kwit
10-17-2009, 05:05 PM
all i need is my dependable old weirach .22 hw 80k its all i can carry over here and i dont have to worry about in camp coz we aint got no bears over here,only thing big enough to give me any problems in camp or out in the woods is a squirrel and i dont shoot them .all that firepower you guys are carrying is enough to start a mini war .

Ahhhhhhh.....there's the confusion. It's not to start one, it's to be prepared for/deter, someone else starting one.:sailor:

(Ok....it's mainly because we like guns. LOL)
crashdive123
10-17-2009, 05:37 PM
OK - I've decided.....I am not limiting myself to three. I went to the trouble and expense to aquire what is in my safe ---- I'm taking them all with me.
2dumb2kwit
10-17-2009, 05:56 PM
OK - I've decided.....I am not limiting myself to three. I went to the trouble and expense to aquire what is in my safe ---- I'm taking them all with me.

I only see one flaw, in your thinking. I'm lazy....so instead of taking them all with me, I think I'll just stay here, with all of them.:blushing:
crashdive123
10-17-2009, 05:57 PM
Good point.
Excalibur
10-17-2009, 06:52 PM
if forced to choose only 1 pistol it would be my ruger black powder .44 (most reliable and rugged of the ones I currently own)

my shotgun would be my mossburg 500 (only shotgun I own)

my rifle would be my 30.06 weatherby vanguard
Rick
10-17-2009, 06:55 PM
Man o'live. Why do you guys choose a .44? That's a lot of bark. There won't be much squirrel meat left when you touch the powder off on one of those off.
Excalibur
10-17-2009, 06:59 PM
its black powder i can go from 30 grains to 50 grains and besides I use the shotgun for squirrel got 3 cases of "non lethal" bean bag bullets in addition to the more unfriendly round. Plus it was a gift from my grandfather.
2dumb2kwit
10-17-2009, 07:30 PM
sides I use the shotgun for squirrel got 3 cases of "non lethal" bean bag bullets

Hmmm....bruised squirrel meat. Yum.:blushing:
Excalibur
10-17-2009, 07:59 PM
lil tenderizin besides its better than no meat
FVR
10-17-2009, 09:06 PM
In a survial situation, I would not carry the rifle. The 22 is a perfect side arm for little critters and protection. The shotgun can shoot everything from tree rats to grizzly bears. Why even consider a rifle?
dolfan87
10-17-2009, 09:10 PM
Handgun- Glock in .40 cal
Shotgun- 870 Wingmaster 12 gauge
Rifle- M77 in 30-06
Rick
10-18-2009, 10:02 AM
Seriously, be real careful about bruising squirrels. They use that bushy tail to conceal their every day carry.

http://api.ning.com/files/boromhBaAAL4FjORhyRjIZ7p1CimcMxlZYnx5-MuOPc_/crazySquirrel.jpg
pocomoonskyeyes
10-18-2009, 10:23 AM
FVR is right IF I could only have ONE(1) firearm to hunt all kinds of critters, It would have to be a shotgun. Everything from tweety birds to Bear can be taken with a shotgun.
loki
10-18-2009, 05:02 PM
In a survial situation, I would not carry the rifle. The 22 is a perfect side arm for little critters and protection. The shotgun can shoot everything from tree rats to grizzly bears. Why even consider a rifle?

I see the benefits and drawbacks of every firearm be it handgun, rifle or shotgun. The shotgun while it is a good versatile tool its drawbacks fall on weight in ammo and range. You can carry twice or even three times the ammo of a rifle over a shotgun depending on the round. In a true survival situation more ammo is always better. We all need to practice and make sure we can hit what we shoot at but misses do happen and having more available ammo is always a plus. Then their are the times when you just will not be able to get close to prey do to a lack of cover this is where the rifle will be more useful also giving you hundreds of yards vs 50-75 yds. With the right rifle you can also shoot anything from varmints to bears depending on the grain of rounds. Such versatile rifles include but are not limited to the 30.06, .243 up to black bear and the .223 will work too with excellent shot placement, but for self defense from such critters the extra rounds will be most welcome on the smaller calibers. With that said if I could only have one handgun out of the ones I own it would be my Bersa .380, or either my taurus .357 snubnose. Specifically because of its smaller caliber. I can hunt smaller game without destroying to much meat and it will work in a self defense situation giving I do my part. The snubnose do to its easy concealibility and while I know the limitiations of the snub nose concerning accuracy and range I can adjust loads to suit different variables also, from 38spl. ball, hollowpoint to snake shot, to full load .357 rounds for bigger critters and SD. This would be for light camping (got lost in woods overnight or weekend).
loki
10-18-2009, 05:13 PM
Now if I new where I was going to be in a survival situation and got a chance to pick my weapons before I head out. For the wilderness my choice of weapons would include either my single shot 12 gauge or either my single shot .308 I cannot decide which of the two. plus my .380 as a back up I would also have my Fallkniven F1 and a SAK Soldier in my pocket. If I am talking urban survival I am sure that I can find food, even if it would be stray dogs, cats, pigeons, squirrels, and canned goods. My main concern would be SD with food as secondary, so My choice then would be my Saiga .223 and my Ruger SR9, along with my Swiss Army Spirit Tool and RAT Cutlery RC3.
SARKY
10-18-2009, 08:43 PM
all i need is my dependable old weirach .22 hw 80k its all i can carry over here and i dont have to worry about in camp coz we aint got no bears over here,only thing big enough to give me any problems in camp or out in the woods is a squirrel and i dont shoot them .all that firepower you guys are carrying is enough to start a mini war .

Isn't the HW-80 an air rifle? The reason I ask is I have one in .177
Icemancometh
10-18-2009, 08:52 PM
Ruger MK512
Mossy 500 8 shot
10/22
Doublestar AR
tacticalguy
10-18-2009, 10:08 PM
WildernessSurvival
Pistol: 357 mag

Shotgun: mossberg 500

Rifle: remington 700

Urban survival

Pistol: 45 acp/38 spec

Shotgun: mossberg 500

Rifle: AK-47 never an m4/m16/ar-15
NCO
10-19-2009, 02:18 PM
Handgun: Don't use/need one. Also Finnish firearm laws come in the way..
Shotgun: Valmet 412 12/70. One of the best ever!
Rifle: Sako 75 Hunter .308 Lovely, accurate and reliable.
Rick
10-19-2009, 04:06 PM
You know....I think we've all overlooked a serious consideration on the shotguns. That being the type of choke your weapon has. For example, those of you with Mossberg 500s (I have the Maverick 88. Same gun) you most likely have a cylinder bore. You sure won't be hunting any squirrels or rabbits with that. 15 -20 yards is optimum for that choke. You'll only deliver about 60% on target at 30 yards and you'll be down to 40% at 40 yards. It's doable, I guess but a lot tougher.

A modified or full choke, on the other hand is good out to about 35 yards and 40 yards respectively. You may find different numbers and that's fine. My point is the tighter the choke the further out your accuracy or, more accurately, the more pellets you put on target.

So give your weapon's choke some consideration when you choose which shotgun you want to use in what role. It's a crucial part of the equation.
rwc1969
10-19-2009, 06:05 PM
My Mossberg 500 had a mod. choke and I used 5 shot and Rem. slugsters. It killed everything at good ranges. The one shot wonder. Only thing I didn't like was the sloppy action and the fact that I was eating more lead than squirrel.

I prefer a .22 for everything now except birds and deer. I'd use the .22 on deer, but it's not legal.
2dumb2kwit
10-19-2009, 06:20 PM
Oh dang!
You mean this isn't the "Ultimate Survival Gun"?
Crap....I've got the wrong thing, again.:sneaky2:
Rick
10-19-2009, 07:02 PM
You can always use the time tested method of putting salt on their tales to shoot them. That will let you get really close. Otherwise, dust in the wind. All they are is dust in the wind.
2dumb2kwit
10-19-2009, 08:22 PM
You can always use the time tested method of putting salt on their tales to shoot them. That will let you get really close. Otherwise, dust in the wind. All they are is dust in the wind.

OK...but you have to admit that having a short 12 guage leveraction, with 7 rounds of 00 buckshot in it, is really cool! LOL:innocent:
FVR
10-19-2009, 08:24 PM
LOL.

Ya'll just need to learn how to shoot a shotgun. Being from NJ, the shotgun was my hunting companion for many, many years. Hint......don't aim for center mass on critters, or ya may be eating lead.

As far as the lever action shotgun, I like it. But the movement to load with the lever, never thought of it until I watch Ermy with the history of shotguns, nocks you off target and slows you down in a combat situation.
2dumb2kwit
10-19-2009, 08:37 PM
LOL.

Ya'll just need to learn how to shoot a shotgun. Being from NJ, the shotgun was my hunting companion for many, many years. Hint......don't aim for center mass on critters, or ya may be eating lead.

As far as the lever action shotgun, I like it. But the movement to load with the lever, never thought of it until I watch Ermy with the history of shotguns, nocks you off target and slows you down in a combat situation.

With buckshot, and...
BARREL: 20" WITH FIXED CYL. CHOKE ...how "on target" do you need to be? LOL:smash:

Seriously though, I have shot skeet with it, and have been able to cycle it fast enough to break 2 skeet....and trust me....with #8 shot and that choke, you don't let them get out there very far. LOL

Would I give up my Rem 870 for it? Heck no.....but it's a fun gun.:smash:
FVR
10-19-2009, 09:31 PM
I would not mind having one. May not use it for birds but I think it would be a great slug gun in the thickets.

I'll get one someday. I posted a pic of one years ago on the site as a shotgun on my WANT list.
hunter63
10-19-2009, 10:11 PM
Wilderness
Ruger Single Six, ( both 22lr and 22 mag), Ruger P100 .357
Remington 870, 24" barrel, all chokes.
Ruger M77 7mm mag (Elvira, Queen of Darkness, capable of "sudden illness" @ approx 3000 fps)
Urban
Ruger p95 9mm or S&W 9mm
Remington 870,
Bushmaster AR, patrol model
lucznik
10-20-2009, 12:35 PM
Pistol - S&W 686+ Mtn Gun .357 Mag
I know you set a 3-gun limit but, I would also always slip my 2" barreled S&W m34 22LR in my front pocket as well.

Rifle - Probably my Ruger M77 mkII compact rifle in 7-08 Rem.

Shotgun - Benelli Nova 12 Ga.
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