Is Survival at ANY COST worth it to you?

[BENESSE]

Where will YOU draw the line?

[crashdive123]

Are you talking $$$, or something else?

[DOGMAN]

I guess, I'd die to protect my son and wife....but other than that I gotta say, whatever it takes to stay alive is worth it...unless I am hooked up to tubes and will never move a muscle again

I WANT TO LIVE !!!

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

The only things that will come before my survival are my families lives! I cherish my life! But would gladly die to save my loved ones....

[oldsoldier]

It's human nature to do what ever it takes to survive. The fight or flight response. Depending on the situation, I will do whatever it takes to survive in a bad situation. Especially if I am with my wife or family. Then you better believe I will be the nastiest,meanest, S.#.#. you ever seen if she/they are threatend. If I learned anything during my military training. There IS NO such thing as a fair fight. Just a winner and a loser, I plan to win. The same goes for protecting my friends.

[RangerXanatos]

No. Similar to stated above, if it came to me or the ones I loved, I'd bid them a safe journey. If I'm not able to be the person I am, i.e. bed fastened and with no hope of real recovery, send me on my way. But at the same time, one cannot put a price on a person's life. I'd spend all: time, money, and the world for the ones I love.

[BENESSE]

Are you talking $$$, or something else?

Something else.

There's human nature and there's humanity.
Which prevails in extremely challenging times is a personal choice.
At least I am starting with that premise.

[crashdive123]

Something else.

There's human nature and there's humanity.
Which prevails in extremely challenging times is a personal choice.
At least I am starting with that premise.

Then I guess my general answer would be whatever it takes. Kind of hard to deal in what if's if I don't know what the what if's are. Do you have something specific in mind?

[Sourdough]

This is something I think about daily. The older I get the more I would be willing to die so that others, younger, stronger, and who's character, morals, & fundamental beliefs I endorsed might live. The problem is that those people are rare. It would have to be people with children. "Dogman" would be on that list, as would a few others. The hard quality to find would be a genuine willingness to work, and work hard for long hours.

There is none of my personal family that would fit my requirements. If I gave up all of my work, and my life, I would want to be convinced that the people I did that for were tough enough to make it. Yes, I would die that others may live.

My biggest worry is that I die, before I find someone worthy of taking over the project. I am so Upset with the Boy Scouts of America for being unwilling to use the land.

[BENESSE]

Then I guess my general answer would be whatever it takes.

Where would you draw the line? Generally.

[Ken]

What line? I can think of several.

Who to die for?

Who to kill for?

The list is endless.

You're posing a riddle. How about a specific question.

[crashdive123]

Are we talking about my life, the life of a loved one, the life of a shipmate, the life of a stranger? I will take a life in defense of another if that is what you are asking. I will die defending myself or another if that is what you are asking. I will not let a loved one or shipmate die alone if that is what you are asking.

Now, if you are asking about some apocalyptic event or something like "Ten Little Indians" I would find an alternative. Procuring long pig is probably not an option.

[COUESAZ]

I always have said I would die for my family, but then I set an wonder who would protect them after I was gone. I have a wife and four children. My Father is no longer with us and i am the head of the family. I worry all the time at how i could keep them all together and safe. I am the middle child but the oldest Boy. As far as the whole family goes. We do have a small Army. My oldest sister has 5 boys three are now over 18 and tough as nails. My next sister has 5 sons and two of them are grown and very good shots and hunters. My younger sister has two boys and i have two boys. My brother has two girls. So out of all those kids we have four girls total. Anyways that had nothing to do with your question i guess but just a thought i always have in my mind.

[Rick]

Way too many variables for me to answer.

[hunter63]

IMHO
I guess we'll all just have to wait and fine out?
This is not an question with one answer, or any answer for that matter till the time comes.
The question is, are you ready to die?

[Pal334]

Anything to protect family and friends. Without them, there is no need to survive.

[Aurelius95]

Would you ever sacrifice yourself for a stranger? I would gladly risk life/limb for my wife and/or son. Probably even for some of my friends. My family would be provided for financially, should something happen to me.

But what about the person who stopped at Spaghetti Junction in Atlanta the other day, to help a distressed motorist. A car hit hers, and she was thrown over the edge to another lane of traffic.

I guess we are all tested, and we have to be as true as possible to our beliefs. It just depends what the test requires of us to give. Hopefully, just our time or perhaps some resources (money, things, etc.) But one day, it may require our lives.

[Rick]

Have you actually been to a Gander Mountain store, Pal? Or a Costco? Or Guns America? Holy crapmoley. I could wander around inside any one of those places, by myself, forever.

[Sourdough]

The question is, are you ready to die?


Yes...every day. My theory is: If your living life, in a raw, close to the earth way, you are compelled to be ready to die at any moment.

[BENESSE]

Then I guess my general answer would be whatever it takes. Kind of hard to deal in what if's if I don't know what the what if's are. Do you have something specific in mind?


Way too many variables for me to answer.

Fort the sake of discussion...

It's TEOTWAWKI-- YOUR worst nightmare come true.
There is no help in sight and daily survival becomes a struggle for you and your family. They are sick, near starvation, and your food supply is gone.
If you could save yourself or them, would you take away by force food/medicine from innocent people who just might not be inclined to share it?

What WOULD you be willing to do?

[crashdive123]

I don't accept the premise of your scenario. I would combine forces with others and together we would rebuild a semblance of civilization and humanity. Together we would reconstruct our lives, albeit a different one. Together we would form a new society. Together we would survive.

[oldsoldier]

Would you ever sacrifice yourself for a stranger? .

Several thousand men and women risk that each and every day. Many do in fact make that ultimate sacrafice. They do it because they care about their fellow human being.... They are our LEO's, our firefighters, and EMS personell, They are our soldiers and sailors, they do so because it has to be done and someone has to do it. I spent my time "in harms way" during my military career. I made it home several friends did not. They were willing and did give their lives for strangers, if needed I would have done so at that time.

[oldsoldier]

Fort the sake of discussion...

It's TEOTWAWKI-- YOUR worst nightmare come true.
There is no help in sight and daily survival becomes a struggle for you and your family. They are sick, near starvation, and your food supply is gone.
If you could save yourself or them, would you take away by force food/medicine from innocent people who just might not be inclined to share it?

What WOULD you be willing to do? IMO if someone is properly prepared, that shouldn't happen. There are hundreds if not thousands of edible and medicinal plants. You just need to learn them. You can trap, hunt, fish and even grow a garden. So I can't forsee that scenerio being a problem for me and many if not most others here.

[oldsoldier]

I don't accept the premise of your scenario. I would combine forces with others and together we would rebuild a semblance of civilization and humanity. Together we would reconstruct our lives, albeit a different one. Together we would form a new society. Together we would survive.

Excellent points Crash..... Wish I could have said it as well.

[Pal334]

I don't accept the premise of your scenario. I would combine forces with others and together we would rebuild a semblance of civilization and humanity. Together we would reconstruct our lives, albeit a different one. Together we would form a new society. Together we would survive.

THis is a good point. A collapse that would keep us isolated into "individual cells" is not likely to happen. Alliances would form, and rebuilding would start. The "Lone wolves" would in most cases be trouble makers and would be part of the problem, not part of the solution

[BENESSE]

I don't accept the premise of your scenario. I would combine forces with others and together we would rebuild a semblance of civilization and humanity. Together we would reconstruct our lives, albeit a different one. Together we would form a new society. Together we would survive.


That's not what I asked.

Sometimes your choices are extremely limited.
Your money or your life?
Save me, or save my unborn baby.
Chose one of the 2 children to sacrifice. (Holocaust)
Etc., Etc.

It's a difficult thing to wrap one's mind around but it's out there.

[crashdive123]

But that is exactly what you asked. I just refused to take the paths that you envisioned.

[Pict]

I think most men rise to the occasion of the heroic but fail at the mundane. OK, so you'll run into a burning building to save your child, but will you put down the remote control? Mac

[2dumb2kwit]

That's not what I asked.

Sometimes your choices are extremely limited.
Your money or your life?
Save me, or save my unborn baby.
Chose one of the 2 children to sacrifice. (Holocaust)
Etc., Etc.

It's a difficult thing to wrap one's mind around but it's out there.

If it comes down to truly hard decisions, I don't think many people can answer, for sure.

It's like asking if someone can kill another person. Not many people know the answer, for sure. A lot of people think that they know the answer, but they really don't. Not unless they have done it. (JMHO)

[oldsoldier]

It's like asking if someone can kill another person. Not many people know the answer, for sure. A lot of people think that they know the answer, but they really don't. Not unless they have done it. (JMHO)

Very true 2D. Most people may answer one way but in a stress situation, will reach totally different. I hope that everyone here that hasn't be in that situation NEVER has to be put to that test. Those of us who have I hope we never have to again.

[Pal334]

If it comes down to truly hard decisions, I don't think many people can answer, for sure.

It's like asking if someone can kill another person. Not many people know the answer, for sure. A lot of people think that they know the answer, but they really don't. Not unless they have done it. (JMHO)

I agree,, even pursuing this line of thought is fruitless. Most people have not ever, nor ever will be in that type scenario. THere is no frame of reference to even try to form a valid plan .

[DOGMAN]

This is something I think about daily. The older I get the more I would be willing to die so that others, younger, stronger, and who's character, morals, & fundamental beliefs I endorsed might live. The problem is that those people are rare. It would have to be people with children. "Dogman" would be on that list, as would a few others. The hard quality to find would be a genuine willingness to work, and work hard for long hours.

Dang, Hope- that brought tears to my eyes. I don't know what to say other then thank you very much.

[rebel]

I am probably wrong about this but, doesn't the bell curve of human reaction show that 10% will do nothing on one side of the curve and 10% will do everything they can. That leaves the other 80% somewhere in between the two leaning to one side or the other. Add a stressful situation and who knows. Practice in a stressful but controlled enviroment will help in decision making if / when you need to think clearly.

E: nevermind. it took me so long to type this that several had already covered the same idea.
g-night....

[pocomoonskyeyes]

IMHO
I guess we'll all just have to wait and fine out?
This is not an question with one answer, or any answer for that matter till the time comes.
The question is, are you ready to die?


If it comes down to truly hard decisions, I don't think many people can answer, for sure.

It's like asking if someone can kill another person. Not many people know the answer, for sure. A lot of people think that they know the answer, but they really don't. Not unless they have done it. (JMHO)

Having been in some rough situations,nothing like what it seems you envision though. It is the closest that My Experience can come to what BENNESSE is asking. These two quotes are probably the best/closest related to my experience. When it comes down to it,you never know until you get at that point. What you actually do might even surprise yourself. You may do things you never thought possible, or said that you would never do.
While it is a good intellectual exercise,we must realize that that is all it is and as such has it's limitations. When chased by a pack of Feral dogs to the cliffs edge do you jump, or turn and fight? Until it happens you really don't know.

[DOGMAN]

Fort the sake of discussion...

It's TEOTWAWKI-- YOUR worst nightmare come true.
There is no help in sight


I am not afraid of the apocalypse or the collapse of civilization- as far as I am concerned that stuff is already happening, thats why I don't live in an urban area.

To me, "TEOTWAWKI-- YOUR worst nightmare come true" is me hurting myself in a wild place, and not being able to get to help....example dropping a tree on myself while cutting firewood, getting caught in a bad hole (keeper reversal) while out kayaking, or falling through the ice in the winter...
those dangers keep life real for me, and remind me not to take any day for granted

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

I think most men rise to the occasion of the heroic but fail at the mundane. OK, so you'll run into a burning building to save your child, but will you put down the remote control? Mac

My family and I put down the remote about a year ago and we are better for it!

[canid]

i would rather die than compromise my stronger moral convictions, so no.

it's worth my while to survive at most costs, but what's life worth if i've given up what made life worthwhile?

[SARKY]

As far as i'm concerned, there is NO line in the sand! That line was obliterated a long time ago, especially in the cities. I have no problem stacking them like cord wood if "they" decide to do harm to my family, neighbors, friends or myself. The difference between me and them is, I don't want to wantonly commit violence on another person and when it's over, i'll go back to being mister nice guy.
My motto to people who want to be my "friend" is... "I can be your best friend, or your worst nightmare, you choose!"

[Sourdough]

If it comes down to truly hard decisions, I don't think many people can answer, for sure.

It's like asking if someone can kill another person. Not many people know the answer, for sure. A lot of people think that they know the answer, but they really don't. Not unless they have done it. (JMHO)




If you don't know.......Then you don't know yourself. If you know youself, you know the answer.

[RichJ]

Fort the sake of discussion...

It's TEOTWAWKI-- YOUR worst nightmare come true.
There is no help in sight and daily survival becomes a struggle for you and your family. They are sick, near starvation, and your food supply is gone.If you could save yourself or them, would you take away by force food/medicine from innocent people who just might not be inclined to share it?

What WOULD you be willing to do?

Death pact, for sure! Thank God for our time together on Earth and ask for his blessings thereafter. We all drink the kool-aid and die together. The End.

[BENESSE]

If you don't know.......Then you don't know yourself. If you know youself, you know the answer.

That's exactly what I was asking, Sourdough!

Do you know deep within your heart (very personal) who you are as a human being and how flexible is your moral compass?

Is there an ultimate right or wrong or is that governed by the circumstances?

[Rick]

If you don't know.......Then you don't know yourself. If you know youself, you know the answer.


I guess I don't know myself because I don't know the answer.

Unless you've been in the situation...have been asked to make the sacrifice...then how can anyone answer? And since we're all on here typing, that tells me that no one has had to make that decision. Either that or you chose not to make the sacrifice.

A lot of bravado can be dumped on the table top. A lot of chest beating and boasting can take place and when push comes to shove we might just find ourselves kicking and screaming and begging for someone else to take the short straw. Would I? Would you?

I know what I'd like to think of myself. I know where my priorities lie. But until the gun is to MY head, until we're down to the last bit of water in the lift raft, until we're down to, "you go on and I'll slow them down", I'm not certain anyone knows who their true self really is.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

If you don't know.......Then you don't know yourself. If you know yourself, you know the answer.


That's exactly what I was asking, Sourdough!

Do you know deep within your heart (very personal) who you are as a human being and how flexible is your moral compass?

Is there an ultimate right or wrong or is that governed by the circumstances?

It just might be that People DO know,and don't want to answer due to moral judgments being passed on them, (by people they know, like, and respect). A VERY similar question(Nearly Identical) was asked somewhere else other than WSF. No Offense BENESSE, but it is almost as if this was a question posed by a professor to his class and students are polling for answers.
Most people envision a TEOTWAWKI event as something similar to "Mad Max with Mel Gibson" type scenario. Marauders against the good guys. Too much Hollywood Hype. Most people think of themselves as being basically good. Even when they have to justify doing something we as civilized folk would consider heinous or beneath us morally(People like eating Lamb but don't or can't envision the slaughter of such an innocent creature). Sometimes this "Moral Justification" is necessary for our own Mental Stability. (I have to eat, so the lamb must die, or I like eating Lamb BUT I didn't kill it). I think it is the rare individual that would answer this question openly and honestly.
If you are asking "Would you steal and/or kill innocent strangers who are unwilling/unable to help you and your loved ones because of real or perceived selfishness/greed to save your or your families life...would you?" Then I think the majority of people would in fact take the "Low road" to insure their survival,whether they will admit, or realize it or not.
Personally, then if I am understanding your question correctly, Yes I would take the "Low road" to save my loved ones. I would take what was necessary to save their lives. Just look through history to find what mankind has done to insure their clan/band/nation's survival. Whether you are talking about hunting lands, arable land, or whatever necessary item you would like to fill in the blank with. It has been done, is being done and will be done in the future. Most people just don't want to think about the "slaughter of the Lamb" analogy being applied to real true everyday life.
I know this is long and I apologize, But like most I too fear peer judgment, and must "justify" my answer with a lengthy explanation as to why I would do so. In reality this is probably something similar to what most "Morally upright" people would also do with themselves, in their mind. It may go back and forth in their head over some time,debating back and forth,trying to come to the "right" decision. But in the end it comes down to- "Do or die" -and is not much choice at all. "I will not go quietly into that long,dark night" has a ring of truth to it,born through the ages time and again.

[Tootsiepop254]

Where will YOU draw the line?

I'm a single mom. What wouldn't I give up to keep my son safe? Aside from him, whatever it takes...

[BENESSE]

I did realize later that I asked an extremely personal question although in the context of "survival" in general I felt it was worth broaching.

Just figured if I thought about something (and I'm not weird) then maybe other
people did as well. And not just anyone, but you guys--with YOUR particular backgrounds and skills. The answer is more meaningful coming from you.
I care much more about what folks like Poco think about it than say, 99% of the people I come across every day.

Poco, your wise words set me a little straighter.
Didn't mean to pry or put anyone on the spot.

Now is there a folding knife you can recommend?

[pocomoonskyeyes]

I did realize later that I asked an extremely personal question although in the context of "survival" in general I felt it was worth broaching.

Just figured if I thought about something (and I'm not weird) then maybe other
people did as well. And not just anyone, but you guys--with YOUR particular backgrounds and skills. The answer is more meaningful coming from you.
I care much more about what folks like Poco think about it than say, 99% of the people I come across every day.

Poco, your wise words set me a little straighter.
Didn't mean to pry or put anyone on the spot.

Now is there a folding knife you can recommend?

Why sure! you know the drill, what's it gonna be used for? Next 30 people will come along and recommend their favorite one.:blushing::clap:

[rwc1969]

Where will YOU draw the line?

If people acted like they do in that show "The Colony" I would have done killed and eaten half of them. Peace, quiet, and a full stomach. What more could a person ask for?

The Donner Party? I would have been the guy who got banished or left early on....and survived.:cold:

[trax]

Where will YOU draw the line?

I don't draw lines, I cross 'em.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

"Integrity is who you really are when noone is looking"

This was a quote from a sight (Rick) posted on another thread. I thought it fit here!

[Rick]

I don't draw lines, I cross 'em.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/laughing.gif

[BENESSE]

"Integrity is who you really are when noone is looking"

This was a quote from a sight (Rick) posted on another thread. I thought it fit here!

A timeless quote that applies to so many things in life.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

A timeless quote that applies to so many things in life.

I used it here because I don't think I could compromise what I know to be right for my own survival. Now if it meant my families survival, I guess I would be willing to do what I know to be wrong.

[doug1980]

Well I believe that there is no right or wrong answer to this question. I joined the Military and volunteered for every deployment i went on. I was in harms way, but for several reasons. I don't pretent to say or think I did all that for all of my fellow Americans. I'm not that great of a person. I can't even say that I did it for family or friends. I have my reasons for serving and all that is a part of it, but not all. Would I die for my family (yes) would I die for my Country (yes) would I die for a stranger (depends) I like to believe I know myself well enough to know for sure either way but I can't answer with 100% confidence. One of the scenarios was "would you kill others to feed or keep your family alive" (yes) but now here is the cunundrum. (sp) Yes I would on one hand but on the other hand I would die for others. So you see I can't answer this question until the time comes to make the decision based on the circumstances.

[Rick]

I decided to test the question this afternoon. I dragged an old lady onto the train tracks to see if I would have the will to push her free and sacrifice myself. I'm sorry to say I didn't. The old bag sure put up a fight, though.

[BENESSE]

I decided to test the question this afternoon. I dragged an old lady onto the train tracks to see if I would have the will to push her free and sacrifice myself. I'm sorry to say I didn't. The old bag sure put up a fight, though.

Practice makes perfect, Rick.

[Rick]

No thanks. She almost had me tied up before I got her off me! She chased me for a block and a half!!

[BENESSE]

No thanks. She almost had me tied up before I got her off me! She chased me for a block and a half!!

Maybe you were her type.

[Rick]

This is her. Feisty little sh.........

http://www.webpan.com/thelaughin/images/show/ruth_buzzi/laughin_buzzi.jpg

[crashdive123]

By golly - I think they caught the whole episode on tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaJ-HmfAnJM&feature=PlayList&p=E3626F0912AD6A80&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10

[2dumb2kwit]

OK....that's funny! :smash:

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