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your_comforting_company
09-24-2009, 07:54 AM
We have a eucalyptus tree growing. I've tried extracting oils from it by boiling and skimming, but not very productive. I've tried making incense from it but couldn't get it to burn. Any tips on either of these would really help.
Are there any other plants / trees that have insect repellent properties that I might try?
what about treatments for bites? fire ants are really pretty aggressive and so are the mammoth mosquitos we have down here in the swampy areas. I need to increase my knowledge in this area.

So lets hear what you guys do. please, no store-bought remedies. Lets keep it limited to things you can find in the bush and make yourself, please.

crashdive123
09-24-2009, 07:59 AM
Although I haven't tried this, you might find it useful. http://chemistry.about.com/od/healthbeautyprojects/a/naturalmosquitorepellent.htm I know you are looking for a natural solution, but for me, the chances of mosquito borne diseases is too great - that's why I use deet.

LindyLu
09-24-2009, 08:37 AM
If you have jewel weed growing in your area, it makes a wonderful anti-itch soap or salve or just a "tea" rinse. The entire plant is useful. It won't keep critter away but really does work on bites or poison ivy. I know you want natural but if you tuck a Bounce (fabric softener) sheet in your collar or hat, it will keep biting bugs away. Listerine (original) in a spray bottle works great and most of all, a flock of guineas will keep insects under control. Hope that helps.
LindyLu

Rick
09-24-2009, 09:21 AM
You might try Pineapple Weed. You can rub the leaves on your skin to serve as both a repellent and to relieve the itching. You can also make a tea with Black Walnut that repels insects.

(Why did I not remember this a couple of days ago!? Grrrrrr.)

RangerXanatos
09-24-2009, 09:58 AM
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3504&highlight=smolder+pine+cone

Post 20 and then post 36
Basically says that a smoldering pinecone will keep the the little buggers away.

Rick
09-24-2009, 09:59 AM
Oh, you bet. I have done that and it works quite well. Better than shouting RAID!

RangerXanatos
09-24-2009, 10:21 AM
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1323&highlight=pinecones

Post 3 number 58.
To keep mosquitoes away rub the inside of an orange peel on face, arms and legs.

Old GI
09-24-2009, 11:15 AM
1. Best use was mixing insect repellant in the little can of peanut butter for fire .... Oh, nevermind.

2. Best way to deal with insects is to stay in a Holiday Inn Express; well, maybe not.

Just a little levity, guys.

Ole WV Coot
09-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Sassafras leaves help some rubbed on, I stick with Crash Deet is the only way to go.

your_comforting_company
09-24-2009, 04:32 PM
i'm gonna have to try the pineapple weed and the smoldering pinecone tricks. I have used smoldering red cedar as a deterrent before.
thanks guys, I'll let you know how well they work very soon!
..now I gotta find some pineapple weed.

anybody tried lady's thumb as a repellent? I know it works on poison ivy rash, and I just happen to know where some is growing ;)

Rick
09-24-2009, 05:17 PM
I tried my wife's thumb until she jabbed me in the eye.

your_comforting_company
10-11-2009, 10:18 PM
just an update
The pinecone trick works well if you keep the smoke rolling on you. Not like all in your face, but just kind of waft it around you every once in a while. might not be a good idea while hunting, but works at the camp very well.

still haven't found jewelweed :(

I harvested a couple sassafras the other day because the leaves are turning yellow so it's a good time to get the root. I stuck a skint root in each of my front shirt pockets and the skeeters didn't seem to get around my face and chest as much while hunting. rubbing the leaves on my hands and arms didn't seem to help much, so I tried a bit of the root for that too. It helps but it's definately not "deep woods off" lol.

thanks for the tips guys!

Rick
10-12-2009, 07:27 AM
Jewelweed is generally found on the edge of the woods and almost always where it's damp ground or close to water. I have found it in the woods but it seems like it was in an open woods.

Depending on how winter is progressing where you live it might have dropped it's flowers by now. It blooms all summer, however.

rwc1969
10-12-2009, 12:19 PM
Jewelweed is great for curing skeeter bites. Plantain is supposed to work as well. I tried it twice and it didn't work as good as jewelweed.

I rubbed Wild leek leaves on my arms and face and stuffed the leaves in my pockets, hat and such. It worked better than nothing, but I had to keep re-applying it every half hour or so..

wildWoman
10-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Balm of Gilead works somewhat - steep the sticky buds of cottonwood trees (harvest in winter) in hot olive oil for about 1 1/2 hours (cover container so the essential oils don't evaporate), then strain, add some beeswax if you like. This makes a good base for just about any creme or oil because the buds' resin acts is a natural preservative and will help to prevent rancidity. And it smells soooo good!
Many (most?) people develop a resistance to mosquito bites after been stung enough - they don't itch anymore. But the bugs still get on your case.

sgtdraino
10-23-2009, 11:22 PM
I have heard that Tea Tree oil can be an effective insect repellent:

http://www.teatreewonders.com/insect-repellent.html

As well as useful for all manner of other things:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_tree_oil

But of course nothing comes close to the effectiveness of DEET.

your_comforting_company
10-24-2009, 08:58 AM
Thanks SGT. thats good info.
I wonder how many folks have found a tea tree in the woods. Is a 'tea olive' tree the same thing?

Looks like I gotta hit the books and the trails again, see if I can find this special tree. It has a lot of other uses besides insects.

thanks again!

sgtdraino
10-24-2009, 04:16 PM
Thanks SGT. thats good info.
I wonder how many folks have found a tea tree in the woods.

lol. Probably not too many. It looks to be native to Australia.


Is a 'tea olive' tree the same thing?

Not as far as I can tell:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melaleuca_alternifolia

Seems like your best bet might be to acquire some of these trees and see if you can cultivate them in your area.

pocomoonskyeyes
10-24-2009, 04:54 PM
OK YCC I am surprised you haven't asked some of the oldtimers in the area yet. They would've told you about the Southern Wax Myrtle Myrica cerifera . They probably refer to it as "Myrckle" bushes or something similar. It is a VERY COMMON bush to small tree in size. It has several uses - Wax for scented candles, Leaves for seasoning in place of bay leaves,AND many people plant it around their dog kennels/yards to keep insects(mostly fleas and ticks) away. You could try some of the wax mixed with an oil or grease to make a salve. In the woods just crush/bruise the leaves and rub on exposed skin.

Rick
10-24-2009, 06:28 PM
I have never heard of that plant. According to NC University..."Colonists made bayberry candles by boiling the berries and collecting the floating wax, then pouring it into candle molds or hand-dipping wicks. Crushed leaves of waxmyrtle rubbed on the skin serve as a mosquito repellent, and many coastal residents place waxmyrtle boughs under their beds to repel fleas and other insects. Waxmyrtle leaves placed in the flour bin are said to repel meal moths." But then again, what do the folks in NC know? :innocent:

Nice post, Poco.

Source: http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/factsheets/maritime/Myricce.htm

crashdive123
10-24-2009, 06:31 PM
I posted some pictures of wax myrtle a while back. I'll dig em up.

Rick
10-24-2009, 06:34 PM
You don't have to do that!!!! Just find the pictures.

crashdive123
10-24-2009, 06:38 PM
You're right - too much work right now. Here are a few pics.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Fort%20Clinch/FortClinch067.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Fort%20Clinch/FortClinch064.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Fort%20Clinch/FortClinch055.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Fort%20Clinch/FortClinch056.jpg

pocomoonskyeyes
10-25-2009, 10:13 AM
Yep That's the one!! Good ole Wax Myrtle. It has a northern relative (Sorry I don't recall exactly what it is Bayberry I think) That has the same uses!!
I grew up in YCC's & Matt86's area. So I am most familiar with plants in that Region. Crash - Because he is so close to the Coast has a few that I'm not so familiar with but still many of the "inland" plants can be found there as well.

your_comforting_company
10-25-2009, 03:30 PM
Thanks gang! I've heard of and seen this plant, but seems like the old folks calls it something else. I'll ask around more. Seems there is a lot of knowledge lost in this part of the world. When I was researching the chinese tallowtree / popcorn tree I read something about it. Many of the old folks don't know about things like yucca soap or candle wax. I only know of 1 old lady that still makes her own soap. Much of the info I get about things like this comes off the net and then I'm the teacher and the old folks are the students. I hear stories of how they used to get by with hardly anything and didnt go into town for weeks at a time, but things like this have just been lost. Funny the way it is.
Thats some really good info and I'll be doing some searching for this shrub/tree.

This should probably be in a different thread, but has anyone had any degree of success in getting wax from the tallowtree or wax myrtle? My 2 attempts at getting wax were failures, and maybe I'm missing something. Apparently you just toss the seeds in boiling water for a few minutes and start skimming the wax off the top... I boiled them for about 45 minutes and didn't get even a spoon full. Am I supposed to scrape the coating off the seeds by hand? I'll leave this question here for the sake of keeping the discussion together based on the plant we're talking about.

Thanks Mel and Crash. You guys are very knowledgable and good friends to have. Thanks for everything you help us with, especially me! I love this forum!!

your_comforting_company
06-01-2010, 06:32 AM
Tried the smoke method twice with some degree of success. Last weekend, while outside grilling and enjoying a nice glass of iced tea, I decided to set up a smoke-screen. I took the lawn clippings and started several smoldering piles in a semi-circle around us. The smoke from the grass was not intolerable and it did a good job keeping the bugs away.
Last night while cleaning fish I did the same, but this time I used some dried eucalyptus leaves in with the grass in a few piles, and in another pile I tossed in some dried sassafras leaves that I had harvested late last year. I can't say for sure that either of the leaf combinations worked better than the other, nor the dry grass alone, but the smoke-screen worked well and I got the fish clean with only a hundred or so mosquito bites, as opposed to the normal quart of blood you'd lose on a normal night here in the valley... like, ya know? totally.

HeritageFarm
06-01-2010, 09:04 AM
If you have jewel weed growing in your area, it makes a wonderful anti-itch soap or salve or just a "tea" rinse. The entire plant is useful. It won't keep critter away but really does work on bites or poison ivy. I know you want natural but if you tuck a Bounce (fabric softener) sheet in your collar or hat, it will keep biting bugs away. Listerine (original) in a spray bottle works great and most of all, a flock of guineas will keep insects under control. Hope that helps.
LindyLu

I just imagined a huge herd of guineas running around the top 40 to eat all the annoying bugs just so I could walk around without ticks.:online2long: I wonder if I could just leash them to me, they could walk in front and eat the ticks in my path. Then when I get hungry..........:nod:

Rick
06-01-2010, 01:29 PM
That might just work if you can put up with the racket.

HeritageFarm
06-01-2010, 01:32 PM
I hate guineas' noises - very annoying. Occasionally I take our 1andonly guinea up to the top 40 and abandon it. It always comes back down, though.

Rick
06-01-2010, 01:34 PM
Try blindfolding it and spinning it around. That should do it.

HeritageFarm
06-01-2010, 01:37 PM
Maybe. But maybe, I should just eat it. If we bring a new rooster home, the guinea chases the rooster around for hours on end. Then we cage it up, as if for a time out, and then it's OK for while. I wonder what 4 year old guinea tastes like?

maker_of_fire
06-14-2010, 09:36 PM
Pennyroyal weed common in eastern USA works great for fleas maybe ticks,spiders skeeters.Grandpa allways put some in the dogs bed. donot take inturnally it can killyou
make time for the things you love time will run out without warning

Rick
06-14-2010, 10:17 PM
MofF - Pennyroyal is in the mint family. It's an herb must like oregano. Pennyroyal oil is toxic, however and teas from the leaves should be taken in moderation. Pennyroyal oil is an insect repellent but I don't think I'd put it on me.

BENESSE
06-14-2010, 10:29 PM
Pennyroyal weed common in eastern USA works great for fleas maybe ticks,spiders skeeters.Grandpa allways put some in the dogs bed. donot take inturnally it can killyou
make time for the things you love time will run out without warning

You are so right.
I feel it running out already. Sometimes it makes me want to do as much as possible and sometimes I just feel tempted to sit back and watch it slip away.

crashdive123
06-14-2010, 10:37 PM
You are so right.
I feel it running out already. Sometimes it makes me want to do as much as possible and sometimes I just feel tempted to sit back and watch it slip away.

Never give in. Never give up. Never surrender. I know you won't.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
06-14-2010, 10:42 PM
You are so right.
I feel it running out already. Sometimes it makes me want to do as much as possible and sometimes I just feel tempted to sit back and watch it slip away.

Benesse, you have been a great one to pick me up from time to time! Were in your corner!

BENESSE
06-14-2010, 11:01 PM
Never give in. Never give up. Never surrender. I know you won't.

Churchill? :)
No, I've never given up (so far) but I do get my moments when I decide to watch things dispassionately from a far.

crashdive123
06-14-2010, 11:07 PM
Churchill? :)
No, I've never given up (so far) but I do get my moments when I decide to watch things dispassionately from a far.

It's OK to sit back with a glass of wine every now and then.:wine:

BENESSE
06-14-2010, 11:14 PM
Benesse, you have been a great one to pick me up from time to time! Were in your corner!

I've been watching "AMERICA-The Story Of Us" (taped) and it was touching. A lot of it I didn't really know. When they taught it in school, I was passing out notes or daydreaming. Some of it was never thought at all. But "we" were so amazing! I don't know what happened to us, how we got here, talking and feeling the way we do, but it makes me sad. How could we have changed so much in such a relatively short period of time?

crashdive123
06-14-2010, 11:19 PM
I've been watching "AMERICA-The Story Of Us" (taped) and it was touching. A lot of it I didn't really know. When they taught it in school, I was passing out notes or daydreaming. Some of it was never thought at all. But "we" were so amazing! I don't know what happened to us, how we got here, talking and feeling the way we do, but it makes me sad. How could we have changed so much in such a relatively short period of time?

Do some reading about Woodrow Wilson. That may show you where much of what we see today started.

Rick
06-15-2010, 08:37 AM
B - We've grown. Matured. It's just the natural part of aging. Folks today didn't live through things like The Year Without a Summer, Civil War or the Dust Bowl. We haven't had to contend with Mayor Tweed or Snake Oil Salesmen or the lawlessness of the 1920's so we look back and think, "Gee, they had it made." Where did the Good Ole Days go? Having lived through the Cold War and the fall of both a President and a Vice President today looks the same as yesterday to me. I image we'll be asking the same thing 100 years from now.

BENESSE
06-15-2010, 09:26 AM
B - We've grown. Matured. It's just the natural part of aging. Folks today didn't live through things like The Year Without a Summer, Civil War or the Dust Bowl. We haven't had to contend with Mayor Tweed or Snake Oil Salesmen or the lawlessness of the 1920's so we look back and think, "Gee, they had it made." Where did the Good Ole Days go? Having lived through the Cold War and the fall of both a President and a Vice President today looks the same as yesterday to me. I image we'll be asking the same thing 100 years from now.

R, I am not nostalgic for any of that--I simply miss the old American temperament and drive that got us through it all and made us formidable in science, technology & defense in a relatively short time. (I've no doubt that we can get through anything again but I fear it will leave us diminished as it already has in many ways.)
Now I am not prone to pessimism, but it's hard to ignore where we are now vs. say, 15 yrs. ago. The fact that we still have a whole in the ground on the WTC site after 9yrs and that we're still dealing with the same old stupid man-made disasters not having learned squat from previous mistakes.

Rick
06-15-2010, 01:15 PM
I hear that. After 9/11 we were told to divest ourselves of some of our science engineers because we had too many green card holders. That sad thing is there just aren't that many Americans to choose from in the sciences. They are out there but the Middle East and Far East far outnumber them. It's a new world from that perspective.

Zuloom
07-02-2010, 03:00 AM
Nepatia leaf rubbed on the skin.

crashdive123
07-02-2010, 05:23 AM
Nepatia leaf rubbed on the skin.

Where would one find this leaf (other than the pet isle of WalMart)?


Speaking of find - in case you were looking for the Introduction section - here it is http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

Rick
07-02-2010, 06:30 AM
Nepatia leaf rubbed on the skin.

Wouldn't you be mauled by cats?

@Crash - You can also find it in Creepy Hollow near the Shaman's place.

your_comforting_company
08-23-2010, 07:49 AM
Found this plant on one of our "out and about days".
Yellow bee-balm was a substitute for thyme when the fields were destroyed overseas during war. It is in the mint family and is a tall, erect plant. The interrupted flower spike and telltale spotted yellow flowers, with colored bracts beneath each whorl are distinguishing features.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg184/your_comforting_company/plants/DSCN4806.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg184/your_comforting_company/plants/DSCN4807.jpg

A lot of rain lately has made the gnats come out in full force, which they usually do during "dog days" anyway. They were fierce yesterday as we walked through the management area checking our flagged plants, and exploring new ones.

Long story short, the scent of the crushed leaves was quite strong, so I tried it as an insect repellent. I took a crushed leaf and rubbed it on my earlobes and behind my ears. To my amazement, the gnats wouldn't get close to my head after that. The effects lasted several hours, and once it wore off, I put a little more on my ears and just a touch under my eyes. Several more hours of bug-free adventuring followed.. at least till it rained us out.

The mosquitos didn't seem to be out yesterday for some odd reason, so I'm not sure how well it works for mosquito repellent, but it certainly works well for gnats.

Just wanted to share the discovery. If you find this plant, I think it would be beneficial to collect a few seeds or seedlings and start a stand at home for your own personal use. We are going to try to start some, and possibly transplant those from one yard to the next. I would love to try some in some spaghetti or lasagna, too!

rwc1969
08-23-2010, 11:07 PM
That's real cool, and a cool looking flower too. I've only found a light putple colored bergamot here, closely related, and will have to try it for bug repellent. Ours appears to be past the flowering stage now though, for the most part.

Rick
08-23-2010, 11:23 PM
I'm not all that familiar with that plant, YCC but I think they call it Dotted Mint around here. I've not seen enough examples of it to really know it. Like RWC most of the Bee Balm around here is Monarda and probably fistulosa. I think the Dotted Mint is Monarda lambada or punctata. I'm not really certain which.

I have some of the purple in the beds around my house. The aroma that is released just by touching the plant is amazing.

your_comforting_company
08-24-2010, 12:05 AM
This one is Monarda punctata. As far as I can tell, the colors are the differences in the species names. I would reckon that all the Monarda species would share similar properties. This one was quite fragrant as well, smelled just like spaghetti spice. Mom could smell it on me 10 feet away (downwind of course). I don't know if you have gnats up there, but it'd be worth a try for skeeters.
I meant to include the latin name in the post, but I forgot! Oops!

Rick
08-24-2010, 07:31 AM
Yes we have gnats. At times they can be a pain in the ... eyeball. Oddly, a hat with a decent brim keeps them at bay as well. The only thing I can figure is the hat brim must divert the CO2 in your breath so they have a harder time homing in on it. That's just a guess but they will swarm me if I take my hat off and don't seem nearly as bad with it on. I'll have to try the Bee Balm, too. Thanks!

AirborneEagles
08-25-2010, 07:30 AM
Crushed citronella, catnip, lemon thyme and wild marigolds all have some mosquito-repelling properties. Also taking vitamin B1 or have a bottle of it in your pack will repel most bugs from eating you. Just take one B1 vitamin before going out and take one every day and it will help keep the bugs at bay.

I wouldn't go rubbing vitamin B1 all over your body, too much of it can give you side affects or harm you like any other vitamin if you take too much of them.
One tablet will do.

Cures, just some good clean mud. Dig down a few inches in some muddy area and grab a handful and put it on the bite. It helps extract the poison and helps heal the wound. After all its just vitamins.

I tried the burning wood trick, but still got eaten up at night and just smelled like smoke. As long as you stay in the smoke, you won't be bothered, but when you leave the fire, you get eaten up. Just my experience.

Also if you have no mud around, just spit on the bite area. I just try not to let my saliva run across my teeth since that plaque or bacteria can just add infection, so I try to make the spit as nice and clean as possible. Been doing it for years and it works. If there is mud, I will use mud instead. Just the mud has different properties and soothes as well as does the job, since really salty spit can sting a little.

Rick
08-25-2010, 07:47 AM
A couple of thoughts here. First B1 is a water soluble vitamin. That means whatever your body doesn't use is excreted in urine. Odds are, you get more than enough in your diet so the added B1 in the vitamin is just excreted. Not many folks in the U.S. have Beri Beri these days. In order for any natural insect repellent, taken internally, to work there has to be an excess to be excreted through the skin. That's how flea and tick repellents work, for example. Since all excess B1 is excreted through urine there can't be any "left over" to work as an insect repellent. I'd like to see a source on that.

I don't understand why you'd put mud on any sort of wound. That's nothing more that packing dirt in a wound. All of the things you want to avoid are found in dirt; bacteria, viruses, cysts, amoeba, protozoa, yeast, etc.

BENESSE
08-25-2010, 08:01 AM
I first read about putting mud on bites in the book "The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon" by Steven King.
Loved the book, learned a lot from it, and this particular remedy made an impression. Always wondered about it.

AirborneEagles
08-26-2010, 03:09 AM
A couple of thoughts here. First B1 is a water soluble vitamin. That means whatever your body doesn't use is excreted in urine. Odds are, you get more than enough in your diet so the added B1 in the vitamin is just excreted. Not many folks in the U.S. have Beri Beri these days. In order for any natural insect repellent, taken internally, to work there has to be an excess to be excreted through the skin. That's how flea and tick repellents work, for example. Since all excess B1 is excreted through urine there can't be any "left over" to work as an insect repellent. I'd like to see a source on that.

I don't understand why you'd put mud on any sort of wound. That's nothing more that packing dirt in a wound. All of the things you want to avoid are found in dirt; bacteria, viruses, cysts, amoeba, protozoa, yeast, etc.

Well when I was a teen I had worked for a lady that had lived in Africa with her husband with some company there, upon the different things bugs carried around she mentioned one day while I was working in the field and getting eaten was to take some vitamin B1. A few days later I noticed I had really no bugs biting me. Then upon my service days I still used vitamin B complex tablets and whether it was just my imagination or that it really did work, either way I had been through my fair share of bugs and didn't come out looking like a pin cushion. So if it doesn't work for some, at least they had their daily vitamins. =)

Mud, well I grew up next to an Indian Reservation in Montana (Flathead Indian Reservation) and had a few Indian friends who always put clean mud on their scrapes or wounds, even bug bites. So I picked it up and still do it today. The minerals in mud along with the other vitamins work together to help the wound heal and sooth the bug bite, plus it helps keep any fly's off the wound as well. I rarely ever use a bandage. Again, it may be just me, but my wounds healed 5 times faster after I had put mud on them. If it is a gusher, sure I won't use mud until it starts to clot, then I will use mud if I am in the wilderness on a quick hike and I have no bandages with me. When the mud dries, I just let it flake off by itself and will clean it when I get home. Usually by that time, it does not need a bandage and looks great so I will just clean it and leave it alone. The bug bites just seem to be red spots and as long as I don't irritate them, they just go away pretty fast.
I never rub it into the wound, but rather pat the mud on and then give it a little pat to help it stay in place.

Upon this talk about mud, I had wort's when I was a teen all over my hands for a few months, then one day a friend and I went swimming in a mud hole that was up the road. It was the slippery light tan mud that is the worst to get off clothes, we had to wash outside before even going in the house. Well a few weeks later, no more wort's and never had them since. Ripley's believe it or not stuff I guess.

It's an option if you don't have any other creams with you I guess. If you have creams to sooth the bite, use them instead of mud.

sorry if I rambled on. haha

your_comforting_company
09-04-2011, 02:05 PM
My bee-balm in the yard is blooming. I'll be saving seeds if anyone is interested in growing some, just let me know. We tried it again yesterday evening, the wife, two of the kids, and myself. Gnats ran away like we were wearing diesel. It doesn't smell like deisel though, it smells like spaghetti spice. Made me hungry for deer burgers. Next time I make deer-s'ghetti, I'm gonna add a few dried leaves to see if it really works as a thyme substitute (as the history books indicate).

Rick
09-04-2011, 03:20 PM
Gosh, my Bee Balm bloomed several weeks ago. All I have left are brown heads. I swear that stuff is the most pungent plant I know of. I typically don't like perfumes. I find them overpowering but I don't seem to mind the Bee Balm. Even a strong breeze can kick up a flood of aroma that I can smell 20 or 30 feet away.

Beans
09-04-2011, 11:36 PM
Here is southern Az we have these itty bitty black SOB's that can drive you nuts from May to September. Their bite leaves small bumps that you scratch until they bleed and then scratch some more.
I have tried Bounce, Deet, Deep Woods, Off Etc, Long sleeve shirts, head nets. The only thing I have found to really work is Avon Skin so Soft. and for those areas that I miss I put some Oral Jell on the bites to relieve the itching. Calamine lotion doesn't seem to help.

Beans
09-04-2011, 11:42 PM
. , for example. Since all excess B1 is excreted through urine there can't be any "left over" to work as an insect repellent. .

O NO Rick you just wrote the plot of another BG show. :surrender:

el-amigo
11-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Hello,

I hope it is the right topic to ask it.

I read the FM 3-05.70 Survival manual and I don't really understand a part from it.
At the 4-73 it is about the Black Widow spider's bite and it writes "An antivenin is available".
After it at the tarantula bite (4-76) it writes "If symptoms of poisoning appear, treat as for the bite of the black widow spider".

Does it mean I have to treat it with the Black Widow antivenin?
Tom

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