Score! Two buckets of wheel weights! [Archive]

hunter63

09-02-2009, 06:44 PM

Was out doing some checking on wheel weights, couple of tire stores told me that they sell it to "someone", (beat me to it), some trade it in? and so forth.
Wasn't looking good.

Then I thought of the one just down the street, so close I didn't even think of it.
Stopped yesterday and the kid behind the counter say to stop today and talk to the owner.

So I did. Owner asked me what I was gonna do with them, so I told him pour bullets. (thinking oh, crap, this can't be good).

Guy says, "Good, you can have all I got, when you run out, stop back, I think it's cool, your building your own".

Then he says, "What up with ammo prices, if you can find it"?
So we discussed the ways of the world for a while, and I left thinking that this is a kindred spirit.

Said thank you, and left with my two 5 gal buckets of lead. (I split them into 4--1/2 buckets so I could carry them)

I think I'm gonna like this guy.

crashdive123

09-02-2009, 06:53 PM

Very nice score indeed.

canid

09-02-2009, 07:16 PM

haha, i was just about to ask how many trips it took to carry them out.

that's a great score.

peter nap

09-02-2009, 07:56 PM

Was out doing some checking on wheel weights, couple of tire stores told me that they sell it to "someone", (beat me to it), some trade it in? and so forth.
Wasn't looking good.

Then I thought of the one just down the street, so close I didn't even think of it.
Stopped yesterday and the kid behind the counter say to stop today and talk to the owner.

So I did. Owner asked me what I was gonna do with them, so I told him pour bullets. (thinking oh, crap, this can't be good).

Guy says, "Good, you can have all I got, when you run out, stop back, I think it's cool, your building your own".

Then he says, "What up with ammo prices, if you can find it"?
So we discussed the ways of the world for a while, and I left thinking that this is a kindred spirit.

Said thank you, and left with my two 5 gal buckets of lead. (I split them into 4--1/2 buckets so I could carry them)

I think I'm gonna like this guy.

Good for you!
They are getting hard to find now...and expensive.

A few weeks ago, I found a couple thousand pounds at a local scrap yard. I paid .40 a pound and bought all he had.

This is the first couple hundred pounds.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/peternap/lead.jpg

COWBOYSURVIVAL

09-02-2009, 08:01 PM

Hunter, Great score! My Father reloads and has my Grandad's lead pot. I am thinking of getting into it one day. I'd love to make me some .50 cal 3 1/2" 12 ga. Sabot slugs! They only come up to 3" to the public. Not sure if it is safe either I'd have to have some manuals to go buy too. But it'd sure be something I want to do!

Rick

09-02-2009, 09:03 PM

You can check with plumbers. Lead plumbing is still removed on occasion. Stop by your local phone company and see if they've wrecked out any lead cable. I have a lead pot that sits on a propane bottle. I'm down to two 4lb chunks at the moment.

SARKY

09-03-2009, 01:01 AM

When I was stationed in Maine, I used to get all the wheel weights I wanted from the tire shops. I had close to 800 ingots poured and ready to make bullets out of not to mention the 5000 bullets I already had poured. Alas, when it came time to retire and leave Maine for California, I was already 3000 lbs over weight for my truck and had to dump most of the ingots. They went to good homes (mostly fishermen). only have a few left. I really need to find a source out here.

Swamprat1958

09-03-2009, 12:14 PM

Most of the tire stores in NE Louisiana have started selling the wheel weights back to their suppliers. It is getting harder and harder to find them in my area.

hunter63

09-03-2009, 12:33 PM

Most of the tire stores in NE Louisiana have started selling the wheel weights back to their suppliers. It is getting harder and harder to find them in my area.

I hear ya, I bet I went to a dozen tire stores, they sell them for scrap, they sell them to "a guy", (I suspect he's doing what I want to do), etc.
So I feel fortunate that I found "my guy", and will keep looking..........

hunter63

09-15-2009, 10:13 PM

Processed the two buckets that I picked up, lots of different kinds, have to be careful, some with zinc.
According to Lee's chapter on casting, zinc is bad.

After a while, you can kinda tell which one are O.K.,I use a "scratch test" with an awl, to tell how hard they are.
Some are even marked Zn for zinc, or Fe for iron.

Zinc melts at about 1400 degrees I think, the pot gets to 900 degrees, so I don't think I have had a problem, so far.

Some are marked "Micro" and seem very soft, some marked "M.C." and "AL-MC" don't know for sure, but they passed the "scratch test" so I melted them.
Some other marking are "T", seems hard, but melt, some marked "P" seem O.K.

Kinda make you wonder if there is a data base on markings?

Got my .357 6 cavity dies in the other day, didn't realize that they didn't come with handles, the round ball and the shot gun slug dies did, so had to reorder and wait.

Came in yesterday, so poured a few hundred .357's to day, not to many "culls" after I got the dies up to temp, and my technique down.

Coated with Lee's Alox and they are drying right now.
Since I paid about $60 bucks for 450 bullets last time around for the .357, I think I am already ahead of the game.

Found this on casting WOW, lots of info:
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletNotes.htm

mccaw69

09-15-2009, 11:31 PM

It's a thing of the past here...all the local shops r reselling them,recycle value u know,it's one situation where being green sucks.

peter nap

09-16-2009, 08:17 PM

Processed the two buckets that I picked up, lots of different kinds, have to be careful, some with zinc.
According to Lee's chapter on casting, zinc is bad.

After a while, you can kinda tell which one are O.K.,I use a "scratch test" with an awl, to tell how hard they are.
Some are even marked Zn for zinc, or Fe for iron.

Zinc melts at about 1400 degrees I think, the pot gets to 900 degrees, so I don't think I have had a problem, so far.

Some are marked "Micro" and seem very soft, some marked "M.C." and "AL-MC" don't know for sure, but they passed the "scratch test" so I melted them.
Some other marking are "T", seems hard, but melt, some marked "P" seem O.K.

Kinda make you wonder if there is a data base on markings?

Got my .357 6 cavity dies in the other day, didn't realize that they didn't come with handles, the round ball and the shot gun slug dies did, so had to reorder and wait.

Came in yesterday, so poured a few hundred .357's to day, not to many "culls" after I got the dies up to temp, and my technique down.

Coated with Lee's Alox and they are drying right now.
Since I paid about $60 bucks for 450 bullets last time around for the .357, I think I am already ahead of the game.

Found this on casting WOW, lots of info:
http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletNotes.htm

Hunter, Zinc melts around 790 F....If you keep your melt around 600 to 625, the zinc will float.

Ue the 800 to 900 heat for casting. Hot lead fills better.

Save the Zinc though. Just a little like .05% will harden a bullet. I have also been playing with making swan shot with it....(Not shot for swans, tear drop shot made the old way)

COWBOYSURVIVAL

09-16-2009, 08:32 PM

Hunter, Zinc melts around 790 F....If you keep your melt around 600 to 625, the zinc will float.

Ue the 800 to 900 heat for casting. Hot lead fills better.

Save the Zinc though. Just a little like .05% will harden a bullet. I have also been playing with making swan shot with it....(Not shot for swans, tear drop shot made the old way)

Do you mean like dropping shot in water?

peter nap

09-16-2009, 09:02 PM

Do you mean like dropping shot in water?

There's a little more to it than that. I use a small, ashtray size, cast iron frying pan I got at Bass Pro. I've seen some people use aluminum ladles.

Drill a small hole, smaller than a #50 bit in it. Heat the lead and the dripper and allow it to drip into HOT water.

The shot will be whatever the size hole allows (Bigger hole bigger shot) and be teardrop shaped. You can make it a little rounder by adding arsenic to reduce the surface tension.

This is the way it wa done in the old days and you can add more holes for more shot. It gets a little complicated if you do too much at a time though.

Zinc is used as a shot material in some countries. I want to try it to use up some culled wheel weights.

You can also make shot by chopping ling strings, It is square (I think they call it block shot).

The swan shot gives more spread than round and the block, more spread yet.

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