the use of cannibis

[Solanum]

Whether you call it Hemp, Mary Jane, Pot, Weed, ganja, Tree, green; it doesn't matter. It is still Cannabis Sativa, or cannabis for short.Cannabis grows just about everywhere in the world and has done so for thousands of years. The plant has been grown for fiber and as a source of medicine for several thousand years, but until 500~ AD its use as a mind-altering drug was almost solely confined in India. The drug and its uses reached the Middle and Near East during the next several centuries, and then moved across
North Africa, appeared in Latin America and the Caribbean, and finally
entered the United States in the early decades of this century.
Marijuana can even be used as "Biomass" fuel, where the pulp (hurd) of
the hemp plant can be burned as is or processed into charcoal,
methanol, methane, or gasoline. This process is called destructive
distillation, or 'pyrolysis.' Fuels made out of plants like this are
called 'biomass' fuels. This charcoal may be burned in today's
coal-powered electric generators. Methanol makes a good automobile
fuel, in fact it is used in professional automobile races. It may
someday replace gasoline.
The cannabis extract was available as a medicine legally in this country until 1937, and was sold as a nerve tonic-but mankind has been using cannabis
medicines much longer than that. Marijuana appears in almost every
known book of medicine written by ancient scholars and wise men. It is
usually ranked among the top medicines, called 'panaceas', a word
which means 'cure-all'.The list of diseases which cannabis can be
used for includes: multiple sclerosis, cancer treatment, AIDS (and
AIDS treatment), glaucoma, depression, epilepsy, migraine headaches,
asthma, pruritis, sclerodoma, severe pain, and dystonia. This list
does not even consider the other medicines which can be made out of
marijuana-these are just some of the illnesses for which people smoke
or eat whole marijuana today.

The earliest record of man's use of cannabis comes from the island of Taiwan located off the coast of mainland China. In this densely populated part of the world, archaeologists have unearthed an ancient village site dating back over 10,000 years to the Stone Age. Scattered among the trash and debris from this prehistoric community were some broken pieces of pottery the sides of which had been decorated by pressing strips of cord into the wet clay before it hardened. Also dispersed among the pottery fragments were some elongated rod-shaped tools, very similar in appearance to those later used to loosen cannabis fibers from their stems.[1] These simple pots, with their patterns of twisted fiber embedded in their sides, suggest that men have been using the marijuana plant in some manner since the dawn of history.

“Cannabis smoking, even of a crude, low-grade product, provides effective symptomatic relief of pain, muscle spasms, and intraocular pressure elevations in selected patients failing other modes of treatment. These clinical cannabis patients are able to reduce or eliminate other prescription medicines and their accompanying side effects; Clinical cannabis provides an improved quality of life in these patients.”
— Russo, Ethan, et al., “Chronic Cannabis Use in the Compassionate Investigational New Drug Program: An Examination of Benefits and Adverse Effects of Legal Clinical Cannabis,” Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics, 2002

Marijuana has now been shown to have strong antioxidative and neuroprotective effects, which may prolong neuronal cell survival. From a pharmacological perspective, marijuana is safe with minimal possibility of overdose. In states where it is legal to do so, marijuana should be considered in the pharmacological management of ALS. ” The article also noted: “[Cannabinoids] will vaporize at a temperature much lower than actual combustion. Heated air can be drawn through marijuana and the active compounds will vaporize, which can then be inhaled … Theoretically, this removes most of the health hazards of smoking.”
— Carter, Gregory T. Rosen, Bill S., “Marijuana in the Management of Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis,” American Journal of Hospice and Palliative Care, July/August 2001

“The anticonvulsant nature of cannabidiol suggests that it has a therapeutic potential in at least three of the four major types of epilepsy: grand mal, cortical focal, and complex partial seizures.”
— Karler, R. and Turkanis, S.A., “The Cannabinoids as Potential Antiepileptics,” The Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, August 1981

“Remarkably, cannabinoids kill glioma cells selectively and can protect non-transformed glial cells from death … Cannabinoids have a favorable drug safety profile.”
— Vasco, Guillermo, et al., “Hypothesis: Cannabinoid Therapy for The Treatment of Gliomas?” NeuroPharmacology, January 2004

“The clinical potential of the cannabinoids is large; some people suggest that cannabis could be ‘the aspirin of the 21st century’ ... Cannabinoids inhibit pain in virtually every experimental pain paradigm.”
— David Baker, et al., “The Therapeutic Potential of Cannabis,” The Lancet Neurology, May 2003

“The results indicate that cannabis may be moderately effective at reducing symptoms of appetite loss, depression, pain, spasticity, and drooling.”
— Amtmann, Dagmar, et al., “Survey of Cannabis Use in Patients With Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis,” American Journal of Hospice and Palliative Medicine, March-April 2004

Now personnally i do smoke and i do it for recreation however there are many uses that cannabis provides in wilderness survival situations. Did you know that hemp fibers are stronger than bamboo fibers and many tribes used the fibers for making bowstrings... There are many more uses then i put here but i want to hear what you guys have to say about the subject.

I took alot of info off the internet im not trying to steal other peoples words im just trying to spread the infomation to you guys.

[Rick]

Wow. A lot of information there. You left off one little teensy item.

IT'S ILLEGAL!!

You seem to be promoting the illegal use of cannibas much more than the uses of hemp. Hemp is a very useful, natural plant while cannibas is not.

Any questions?

[trax]

Any questions?
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[/SIZE]

dude, you got any ice cream around here?

[Solanum]

cannbis is useful for alot of medical implications.

[Sarge47]

cannbis is useful for alot of medical implications.That's what I tried telling the judge, but then I didn't have Ken as my lawyer....KEN!!!!! :innocent:

[Winnie]

cannbis is useful for alot of medical implications.

When prescribed by a qualified doctor! Otherwise........

IT'S ILLEGAL

[Solanum]

why dont you tell me the reasons its illegal? and what problms do you have with it? it saves alot of lives and helps thousands of people with very painful illnesses and depressions. its only illegal because the government will lose money that they get with there perscription meds

[Rick]

Solanum - Medical use was not within the context of your post.

"there are many uses that cannabis provides in wilderness survival situations."


Trax - What do you want?

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[crashdive123]

So - is this why you got out of the Navy?

[Rick]

This is not a forum to discuss the legalities of drugs and their use. The fact remains cannibas is illegal and no discussion on this site is going to change that.

[Solanum]

exactly in survival situations... you might look down on it in society for whatever your reasons but just like in a survival situation where your starving you might kill a endangered animal to eat well thats illegal as well but i bet it wouldnt stop most of you.

[Winnie]

its only illegal because the government will lose money that they get with there perscription meds

Not over here, but IT'S STILL ILLEGAL

[Ken]

Hey, come on down to Southeastern Mass! Bring truckloads with you!

Just make sure you have a hefty sum of money hidden someplace just in case you have to call me - don't keep it anywhere near your weed - they'll confiscate the cash as well, and then you won't be able to hire me, and NOBODY will be happy. :innocent:

[Sarge47]

why dont you tell me the reasons its illegal? and what problms do you have with it? it saves alot of lives and helps thousands of people with very painful illnesses and depressions. its only illegal because the government will lose money that they get with there perscription medsWhatever the reasons it's still illegal, like it or not, & if you ever bring it around my house you'll be wearing your arse for a hat, clear! :cool2:

[Rick]

That makes no sense. You're trying compare harvesting food in a survival situation to tokin' up in a survival situation? Seriously? Good luck with that.

[crashdive123]

exactly in survival situations... you might look down on it in society for whatever your reasons but just like in a survival situation where your starving you might kill a endangered animal to eat well thats illegal as well but i bet it wouldnt stop most of you.

As you correctly say, I would not hesitate to kill an animal on the endagered species list in a true survival situation. Every pot field that I have come across in the bush over the years had armed guards. So help me understand where I can find it growing wild with no folks minding the store in case I come down with glaucoma in a survial situation.

[Ken]

why dont you tell me the reasons its illegal? and what problms do you have with it? it saves alot of lives and helps thousands of people with very painful illnesses and depressions. its only illegal because the government will lose money that they get with there perscription meds

Well :) I can think of job security as one good reason!

Remember, you only get one phone call. Call ME!

[trax]

Pot in survival situation, let's see...hmmm....

Lost in wilderness, no food, no shelter, no weapons, no knowledge of building shelter or starting a fire.....

Toke up....no care!

Other than that, nawwwww......I don't really equate cannabis use with wilderness survival.

Rick, you got any Rocky Road (I'm not in a survival situation right now....:sneaky2:)

[pocomoonskyeyes]

So do a lot of other medicines that have been used and abused... and now are also illegal. If/when the gov't changes it's mind then we'll see. I agree it has been used beneficially for longer than anyone can trace their family history. But the bottom line is it is illegal. Marijuana.com might agree with you, but Law abiding citizens won't. I know it's uses,unfortunately enough people have abused it that our Gov't. in it's "wisdom", made it illegal. It doesn't matter if I agree with you or not. Now in an emergency...as far as I am concerned about 90% of the laws are out the window anyway. You know the ones...no jaywalking, spitting on the sidewalk, stuff like that. The serious ones Murder, rape, kidnapping, grand theft, etc. are still in effect since they always have been and are not stupid laws. So I think it would be in your best interest to not promote illegal stuff. Nothing Personal, just trying to help you out.

[Solanum]

well i have also found pot in the woods before and your right they are armed gaurds and sometimes even attack dogs. mexican weed is now being grown in the us because crossing the border is becoming harder for them... im not telling you to go steal there weed and get shot. but i have also found lone standing pot plants in the woods before. and like i said it has alot more uses then just smoking.. yes its illegal here but your all kidding yourself if you think it will still be in 20 years. i bet if it was legal alot of you would still not like this post.. nevertheless its still a plant that has a multitude of uses and has been used since the dawn of man... so much that our bodies have evolved to it. look up cannoboid recepters.. im not going to argue its illegal thats a fact. but in a survival situation you may need a pain reliving medicine or cordage for a multiple reasons and the plant itself is also very edible.

[Sarge47]

Wasn't this numpty on here before? Didn't somebody get banned over the subsequent discussion? Actually I think I can agree with this fella's view of grass as a survival tool; you get lost, fire up a doobie, WHAM! Narcs all over the place come & bust your a*s; but hey, you're not lost anymore! :innocent:

[Pal334]

why dont you tell me the reasons its illegal? and what problms do you have with it? it saves alot of lives and helps thousands of people with very painful illnesses and depressions. its only illegal because the government will lose money that they get with there perscription meds

When you grow up you will understand that it does not matter why its illegal, it just is. Why a person would use an illegal substance, or abuse a legal substance (example alcoholic beverages) and risk the opportunity for a good career is way beyond me. And the pretext that it has possible "survival use" is also silly. The possibility of finding it growing wild or naturally is so slim that only a fool would consider it.

[Solanum]

are you kidding pot grows naturally there are so many cannabis pollen in the worlds atmosphere that alot of countrys even have the % in there weather reports. cannbis grows wild. not the good stuff but still lol

[crashdive123]

It may have more uses than recreational enjoyment, but how many of those have you tried. Why not give us a detailed explanation of how to make cordage with the lone plant you came across. Why not tell us your experience and how it worked.....since of course you are not promoting anything illegal.

[Ken]

Solanum, please PLEASE tell me you weren't tokin up when you were in the Navy and when you were doing your Navy survival training. All I can think of is

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[2dumb2kwit]

If I end up in a survival situation, I'm probably gonna be hungry. Why in the he!! would I want something that is gonna give me the munchies???:innocent:

[Solanum]

look im done talking about it you all dont want to hear it obviously even though im getting privite messages of people *****ing me out and then saying great post at the same time... no i didnt smoke during training or at work. yes i did smoke while i was in the service. now im done with the topic since no one wants to say anything other than its illegal.

[Sarge47]

Guys, this fool is playin' you! :cool2:

[Ken]

yes i did smoke while i was in the service.

:sneaky2: :eyepoke:

[Sarge47]

look im done talking about it you all dont want to hear it obviously even though im getting privite messages of people *****ing me out and then saying great post at the same time... no i didnt smoke during training or at work. yes i did smoke while i was in the service. now im done with the topic since no one wants to say anything other than its illegal.Glad to hear it! :cool2:

[Winnie]

The thing with this is, the liklihood of coming across hemp plants growing in the wild is remote. The liklihood of finding native native plants that serve the same purpose-high. I know what my choice would be.
A for instance.... Birch bark= cordage.
Nettle= food
Willow bark= a painkiller
The list is endless!

[pocomoonskyeyes]

well i have also found pot in the woods before and your right they are armed gaurds and sometimes even attack dogs. mexican weed is now being grown in the us because crossing the border is becoming harder for them... im not telling you to go steal there weed and get shot. but i have also found lone standing pot plants in the woods before. and like i said it has alot more uses then just smoking.. yes its illegal here but your all kidding yourself if you think it will still be in 20 years. i bet if it was legal alot of you would still not like this post.. nevertheless its still a plant that has a multitude of uses and has been used since the dawn of man... so much that our bodies have evolved to it. look up cannoboid recepters.. im not going to argue its illegal thats a fact. but in a survival situation you may need a pain reliving medicine or cordage for a multiple reasons and the plant itself is also very edible.

Yes Solanum in a book about medicinal plants and their uses there was one book that spoke extensively (compared to others) about Cannabis Sativa as having medicinal uses I think the author was some guy named John Lust (probably a pseudonym) So it does have uses medicinally... so does opium.... illegal ... so does peyote... illegal,and many others. IF You are in a true Survival situation who cares, use it if you want to.... Until then I ain't gonna' break the law. Oh and by the way most medicinal uses for "recreational drugs" is to cure Depression! Get High and your not low? Go figure.

[Rick]

Had your post been on hemp with instructions on how to use it for cordage, how to make a bag/basket/rope with it, that would have been one thing. You post was not. Instead, you chose to focus on cannibas and why it is good to smoke. It had nothing to do with survival skills however remotely you attempt to tie it in.

[Solanum]

im against drugs dont get me wrong but opium, payote, weed, and shrooms in my own belief arnt drugs because they arnt manufactored they are all made naturally on gods green earth and as for weed and opium our bodys have evolved receptors on our brains for specifically these plants, yes everyone of you have these receptors on your brain called cannoboid receptors... tell me is evolution is wrong.

[crashdive123]

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[Rick]

Are you still here? I thought you were done with this? Right there in post #27...

"look im done talking about it".

Fibber.

[Solanum]

you guys are all so brainwashed over a plant that someone else has deemed wrong. i dont even want to be in this forum anymore ill find a different one where perhaps people dont have to be afraid to speak there mind with fear of sarcasim and dumb *** old hicks who dont know what the **** there talking about. im out later *****es

[Rick]

Well, you won't be signing back on here for a bit. Insulting members is a no no. Bye now. Solid proof that there are survivors and wannabes in this world.

[Ken]

im against drugs dont get me wrong but opium, payote, weed, and shrooms in my own belief arnt drugs because they arnt manufactored they are all made naturally on gods green earth and as for weed and opium our bodys have evolved receptors on our brains for specifically these plants, yes everyone of you have these receptors on your brain called cannoboid receptors... tell me is evolution is wrong.

You're sh!tting me, right? Okay, toke on this - most folks that need my help come to see me because of opium, payote, weed, and shrooms - oh, and booze, too. Alcohol's natural, right?

Not only OUI's and drug arrests, but most divorces, assaults, murders, robberies, business failures, car accidents - almost all are drug or alcohol related in some way. Who'd have thunk it, huh? :sneaky2:

[Winnie]

Well, that's that then!

[Rick]

He's gone. Went bye bye. After he insulted everyone it was time to say good night Gracie.

[Ken]

Insulting members is a no no.

Even if it's you or 2dumb? :innocent:

[Winnie]

I just realised.... Solarnum= Potato!

[Rick]

As I said, I would have had no trouble with him talking about the uses of hemp. I wouldn't mind learning some things on that subject. But when all you want to do is rant about something that none of us are going to change it just gets down to stirring crapola.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Hey WW don't you mean Pot ate Oh !!LOL

[crashdive123]

It's really quite sad. All that survival training that was boasted of and he still can't spell.

[Winnie]

Hey WW don't you mean Pot ate Oh !!LOL

I like that!! LOL:)

[Ken]

He's gone. Went bye bye.

Well, I guess there's no reason for me to come back here anymore. :innocent:

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[pocomoonskyeyes]

As I said, I would have had no trouble with him talking about the uses of hemp. I wouldn't mind learning some things on that subject. But when all you want to do is rant about something that none of us are going to change it just gets down to stirring crapola.

Well I don't know personally Rick, but I've heard that a shirt made of Hemp fiber will outlast just about any other fabric shirt. Same with most cloth made materials. He was right about the cordage... Man I miss good ol' hemp rope.

I kept trying to drop subtle hints but He wasn't listening.Oh well another one torn to pieces by the wolf pack. Think we can talk 2D2K into cleaning up all the blood splatter?

[Rick]

Hints? He was told outright. Hemp's a great subject. I can't figure out why they can grow it in Kanuka and not down here. The level of THC is so low it's not even worth cultivating for that. There's a place in Montana? Idaho? don't remember for sure but just across the border they are growing hemp to be used in automobile upholstery yet the same stuff is illegal in the US. It would make a great cash crop (non smoking).

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Hints? He was told outright. Hemp's a great subject. I can't figure out why they can grow it in Kanuka and not down here. The level of THC is so low it's not even worth cultivating for that. There's a place in Montana? Idaho? don't remember for sure but just across the border they are growing hemp to be used in automobile upholstery yet the same stuff is illegal in the US. It would make a great cash crop (non smoking).

No I said I was dropping him hints,sorry for the misunderstanding.
all that potential usefulness for that plant as long as it's not grown here but the end use products can be used here.... Typical - politics confuse me!!

[crashdive123]

What's funny, and it happens from time to time.

I'm done with this thread!

two minutes later

As I was saying........

after proving that he should have taken his own advice

*&^* %%%^ I'm leaving. You all *$%#. Revoke my membership. You still ^#$@.

gets banned

logs on five minutes later

Why can't I post?

A clear demonstration of survival skills and the ability to play well with others.

[Ken]

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[Oasis de Tucanes]

Everything is illegal in the fallen empire.
Did they come and get your guns yet ?

[OhioHillbilly]

First time I've seen 25 people viewing a topic since i been hanging out here

[Sarge47]

He's gone? Banned? Dang Rick; I'm proud of ya son! Gonna be a crusty old curmudge...curmuge...old fart like Sarge...hee-hee-hee! Hey, I call dibs on his bong & roach clip! :innocent:

[justinjedlawton]

Boy this is a fun one i d love to say somting but i think i migt get in to troubled
i am not standing up gor any one but mi own but i cant speel ether:banana:

[Ken]

Gonna be a crusty old curmudge...curmuge...old fart like Sarge...hee-hee-hee!

Already smells bad like Sarge, too! :sneaky2:

[Jiujitman]

:cool2:Poor guy. I feel bad for him, but I guess he was asking for it. I think he was high.
I was the same way when I was young- "Pot can change the world" or "It opens your minds eye and you can see things that people that aren't high can see".....Those were the days

[Lorna]

Crash, I play well with others. :innocent:

[crashdive123]

Crash, I play well with others. :innocent:

Ya know, no matter what smart alec comment I think of, it will get me in trouble. Soooo.

Lorna - you do just fine, and that's why you are so admired by others.

[Ken]

Crash, I play well with others. :innocent:

Ken

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[Oasis de Tucanes]

Hints? He was told outright. Hemp's a great subject. I can't figure out why they can grow it in Kanuka and not down here. The level of THC is so low it's not even worth cultivating for that. There's a place in Montana? Idaho? don't remember for sure but just across the border they are growing hemp to be used in automobile upholstery yet the same stuff is illegal in the US. It would make a great cash crop (non smoking).

Basically because you live in a fascist nation.
Do a little homework on the subject and you'll find the "reasons" behind it being illegal.
Dupont is one
Big oil is another.
As usual. You've been lied to.

Gotta run before Sarge beats me in the head with that Walmart bought,, Chinese made flag.:bawling:

[mountain mama]

Lorna - you do just fine, and that's why you are so admired by others.

That and the boobies...

[Ken]

Basically because you live in a fascist nation............

Gotta run before Sarge beats me in the head with that Walmart bought,, Chinese made flag.:bawling:

Rick? Remember that smiley I posted a while back? The one you said hurt your eyes? Can I use it now? :sneaky2:

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Hey Ken do what I did just put him on your ignore list. He's a Troll.

[Pal334]

Basically because you live in a fascist nation.
Do a little homework on the subject and you'll find the "reasons" behind it being illegal.
Dupont is one
Big oil is another.
As usual. You've been lied to.

Gotta run before Sarge beats me in the head with that Walmart bought,, Chinese made flag.:bawling:

Thank you for showing your true colors.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Basically because you live in a fascist nation.
Do a little homework on the subject and you'll find the "reasons" behind it being illegal.
Dupont is one
Big oil is another.
As usual. You've been lied to.

Gotta run before Sarge beats me in the head with that Walmart bought,, Chinese made flag.:bawling:

ODT It is obvious you know nothing about anything, you just want to stir up trouble, you are a "Troll". Since these two things have been revealed you are on my ignore list. Just letting you know.

[trax]

having reviewed this thread carefully since leaving yesterday I'm left with the foreboding sense that it comes down to this....trax gets screwed out of his ice cream again. sighhhh......

[Jiujitman]

Big Oil, Dupont......Sounds like another conspiracy theory thought up by lobbyist for the Legalization of Marijuana.

BTW, do you even know what a fascist nation is?? Stay away you Commie...

[Ken]

having reviewed this thread carefully since leaving yesterday I'm left with the foreboding sense that it comes down to this....trax gets screwed out of his ice cream again. sighhhh......

You want the rest of my cone? :)

[Rick]

I think we've all had enough of this one. It's Closed.