Survival FAILURE......Your going to die

[Sourdough]

There is something about the whole survival movement that cracks me up. Your going to die. I mean a little caution, a few preparations, etc. but come on it is not like you can overrule the inevetable.....Your going to die someday, and maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe next week. Enjoy today.
I always liked in the movie when Jack Nicholson walks into the waiting room of the Doctor's office and Say's to the people waiting, "What if this is as good as it gets"....?

I mean really, think about how crazy some of this is, Think about how phobic some people are......lighten up...have a beer, "It's not just for breakfast anymore". I mean how much work do you really want to put into something you are guaranteed to FAIL at.:innocent::winkiss:

[LostOutrider]

My sons will have to live in the world after I'm long gone. Their sons after them. The world I leave them - what part of it I am able to affect - will be better for my part in it than the one left me.

[Rick]

This flip side of the coin is a LOT of problems are not only survivable but preventable and preparations can resolve both issues. I'm keenly aware that my home could burn down. That doesn't mean I simply accept it, leave open fires burning and refuse to leave if it does catch fire. Instead, I put in place practical preparations to preserve the structure (fire extinguishers, safety cans for storing fuel, all electric) and to provide me precious time should it occur (smoke detectors/alarms, second story ladders).

Similarly, you also invest in preparations. Wood chopping, harvesting elk meat, recon on the property, all serve to protect you and extend your life.

I look at those that believe in economic collapse, EMP, social unrest or government take over and wonder why they believe those things are so preeminent when tornados, hurricanes, wild fires and earthquakes happen all the time. But they have the right to believe in them and prepare for them and it's certainly not up to me to be their judge.

We are garuanteed death at the end of the road but those things that give us comfort and security along the way are, IMHO, not only prudent but necessary and serve to place us in control of life's events even if only in our imaginations.

[Pal334]

I would like to think that there is something in the middle. Like Rick says, take all prudent preventative measures to lessen the possibilities of preventable incidents. Also these will help when mother nature or man throws a curve ball. And Hope is on track also. If I may para phrase , don't make yourself nuts, somethings will happen no matter what. I would advocate, be prepared, and have fun doing it. And a cold beer every now and again can't hurt.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

This is definitely one of those things that the saying..."all things in moderation" applies to. No I'm not going to live forever buuut while I'm here I'm going to try and stick around as long as I can. If all I saw was the end of the road I'd just lie down and let a truck finish the job.Or a Bear or a Snake or something. I'm NOT an extremist(in terms of survival) nor am I a defeatist either. It is Human Nature (well all living things) to try to live as long as possible. What doesn't isn't here.

[Jonesy]

You could say the same thing about anything taken to an extreme not just the survival movement. Religion, sports, politics to name a few all have fanatics. Priorities change for people as they get older, life altering experiences, world political climate, illness, and the list goes on. The choices I have made in the past to some extent dictate my path today. You have your priorities and responsibilities, I have a family of 6+ that are my priority and responsibility. What concerns me today with survival preperations may seem like a crack up to some, a year from now I might even consider myself a crack up for what I thought was important. It is a process of learning and maturing in what we are studying. Apparently you see no value in what some choose to do. Others have a sense of urgency to prepare by whatever means gives them peace of mind. Just be glad we are not all exactly like you. You would be pissed with a few hundred million close neighbors.:)

[Sourdough]

I would like to think that there is something in the middle. Like Rick says, take all prudent preventative measures to lessen the possibilities of preventable incidents. Also these will help when mother nature or man throws a curve ball. And Hope is on track also. If I may para phrase , don't make yourself nuts, somethings will happen no matter what. I would advocate, be prepared, and have fun doing it. And a cold beer every now and again can't hurt.

That is all I am saying, moderation. Yesterday was a slow day on the forum, so I thought I would stir the pot a bit. On the scale of survival freaks, I am way up the pole......Sometimes I look at myself, and laugh at myself.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

That is all I am saying, moderation. Yesterday was a slow day on the forum, so I thought I would stir the pot a bit. On the scale of survival freaks, I am way up the pole......Sometimes I look at myself, and laugh at myself.

Well you stirred it up. It was REALLY slow yesterday wasn't it? You know Hope I think you have one of the best Survival attitudes there is... The ability to laugh at yourself. I do it all the time when I'm not slapping my forehead saying to myself what was I thinking?

[Rick]

Or pulling thorns out or bandaging wounds or spitting out the misidentified plant or.......just sayin'.

[Pal334]

Agreed, moderation in everything. Helps you stick around longer. Now I do see you have an advertisement "Women wanted new or used". Use moderation there also, a wild one will turn your world upside down :) ... just saying...

[canid]

i do lighten up and have a beer. preparedness just means i can [and do] make my own...

[Rick]

Yeah, what Canid said.....(Can I have one?)

[doug1980]

One for me too please. I have to admit that I am a bit lazy when it comes to preperation. Still have that little voice inside that says, "It won't happen to me." And so far I have been lucky. I mean if I really tried to prepare for all the things that "could" go wrong I would never sleep. So like most of the population I get up, go to work, come home, and watch TV or spend time online. Lately my wife and I have found ourselves dreaming and planning for the future. Our big move to Texas and starting over. However, like hope said, doing that means we are not enjoying what we have now. This State is beautiful but we don't see that anymore. We hate our jobs, we hate the cold and the rain. We can't seem to enjoy what we have and be thankful for this experience. But hopefully now that we are aware of what we are doing we can fix it.

[canid]

i don't think it will keep well in transit, but if it's drinkable upon arival, consume right away. ;)

i've had plans for a while to build a flow through pasteurizer from an old coffee maker heating element. it would be sweet to be able to pasteurize the beer straight between the carboy and bottles.

it would be leaps and bounds easier than the wind turbine project i've had on hold for months now.

[Rick]

Hey, doug - Why do you work out a swap with someone from Texas? They could do 4 years in the Air Force in Alaska and you good have their home in Texas. There's a ?/win for you.

[doug1980]

Hey, doug - Why do you work out a swap with someone from Texas? They could do 4 years in the Air Force in Alaska and you good have their home in Texas. There's a ?/win for you.

Not sure they would want my part of the deal. But then again you never know. Hey Lorna wanna trade. :winkiss:

[wareagle69]

todays as good as any day to die, i'm ready
i only ask that it is a good death and i die well

[Rick]

So many have been waiting for soooo long for this moment. Okay everyone. Line up behind me. I'm first!!

[Ken]

todays as good as any day to die, i'm ready
i only ask that it is a good death and i die well

Hey, just take what you can get and be grateful for it! :)

[Pal334]

todays as good as any day to die, i'm ready
i only ask that it is a good death and i die well

No thank you, I have cheated it often enough that cheating it has become a habit. It will come soon enough. :cool2:

[wareagle69]

So many have been waiting for soooo long for this moment. Okay everyone. Line up behind me. I'm first!!

a few have tried and yet here i am, more annoying than ever

[oly]

Death will happen so I dont know why worry about it? Our natural instinct for fight for survival but the reality is that it will happen.
I have had some near misses in aircraft and I just sat back and thought its time to die but with the natural instinct to survive I starting to look for the exits and wounder if that idiot screaming over the wing exit realizes there duties?
What will be will be

[FVR]

"Every warrior hopes a good death will find him."

[Longranger]

Have you ever seen a cornered animal? They will fight like there is no tomorrow. I believe we are the same way. We will fight for that last breath, we're wired that way. Survive at all costs, do what you must but survive. We are tought in war to know your enemy that you may better defeat him. We should have the knowledge and wisdom to deal with that knowledge. It is a never ending process and we will never know it all. In nature it's known as survival of the fittest. No matter one's age know your limitations but never sell yourself short. For me n my family we are ready for whatever comes but we know what we can do and cannot. Mostly it is a fervent belief in God that helps us in times of stress, be it on a mountain top or the deepest of valleys, we know he is there and will never leave nor forsake us.
As the Boyscouts motto: Be Prepared

[SARKY]

I will not go quietly into that cold dark night!

[Rick]

I don't know, Longranger. I've seen some mighty strong folks walk peacefully into certain death. Sometimes, convictions are much stronger than the will to live or the desire to fight back. Sometimes, the strength is in the knowing.

[chiangmaimav]

I was always interested in survival stories and yes it is a serious subject. Life and death are serious subjects. But for me the survival related things I do are mostly interesting and even fun. If you really read this forum, it is very funny and most people have healthy attitude and good sense of humor. I am not obsessed with fear of dying or spending my time worrying about it. The philosophy of Thailand is called mai pen rai which sort of translates to it doesn't matter or who cares, and while I am from the west it is sort of a contagious attitude as everyone around me thinks this way and maybe it is not such a bad way as people are happy despite having many more problems than I did back in the states. Yes I will die someday of course but I am in no hurry and if I can do things to prolong my life it seems like a good idea, but meanwhile I can still enjoy life and so can everyone.

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